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Old 10-17-2012, 03:57 PM
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Rumors are rumors. The full disclosure of this particular rumor is that someone convinced Paul that these Rocs have a plus rim and they wouldn't sell, so he said he didn't want it. I don't know how much truth is behind that. Paul would be the guy to ask.

btw, these are not plus rimmed. I compared them to the 2006 Rocs they had at the pro shop and they had the same rim configuration, so unless they had plus molds in 2006...
I heard something similar from Cameron Colglazier. He said that McBeth wasn't happy because he thought they were plus molded. Cameron said he went through three boxes and they were normal rims.

I got to throw Cameron's blue F2 a few times. I only threw flat releases and the McRoc reminded me of the flight path of a heavy new glow buzzz accomplished with more forward fading glide. On a low flat line with 275' power it was stable straight and faded the last 20-25% of the flight. I've thrown an older run esp wasp and bag a Ti wasp and both need more power and dump fade more. After many rounds in the woods, my Ti wasp is getting straighter but I still wouldn't say it has much glide so this roc might get a tryout since I could cover similar lines with less power.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:19 PM
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ah there you go 'mcroc' nize.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:37 PM
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I heard something similar from Cameron Colglazier. He said that McBeth wasn't happy because he thought they were plus molded.
I saw this brought up once before in this thread but no one seemed to read/respond to it. For a long time the only place you could get a non plus Champion Roc was in the form of a USDGC roc. Has innova decided to make non plus champion rocs a production mold?
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:55 PM
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Reading this thread makes me want to buy a Buzzz and a Wasp and hang up the rocs.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:14 PM
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I saw this brought up once before in this thread but no one seemed to read/respond to it. For a long time the only place you could get a non plus Champion Roc was in the form of a USDGC roc. Has innova decided to make non plus champion rocs a production mold?
Short answer- yes.

Long answer- things change.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:23 PM
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...Has innova decided to make non plus champion rocs a production mold?
Yes, because it's yet another variant of the "Roc" name. This one flies more like a Buzzz than any other Roc.

Don't buy one expecting a Champ Rancho. If you want a Champ Rancho, you still have to buy a USDGC.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:31 PM
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Don't know if this was already posted here. From Dave on PDGA:

"These were a limited release Roc 3 mold. Although Paul's signature is on it, it may not be a Paul McBeth Roc if he is not completely happy with it. This mold will be released to the public in a few months. It is not as over stable as the regular Rancho and is a little flatter.

The USDGC Rocs are the regular Ranchos with a special material to make them fairly flat. "
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:08 PM
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What is Roc3"
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:16 PM
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Looks good to me.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:19 PM
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What is Roc3"
Probably the 3rd variation of the mold with the classic roc being 1st.

^^Total speculation.
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