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Old 10-16-2012, 08:14 AM
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Please rip my bag apart guys

Having some issues with settling on a driver, but most of the other stuff is fairly well nailed down. See any issues?

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Years playing/experience: DG almost 3 years
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, utility FH
Golf Distance (avg/max) for putter/mid/driver: Pure: 200/240'; Buzzz: 250/280'; Teebird: 310/330'


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Age: 32
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: none
Other sport proficiencies?: used to play soccer, baseball, basketball
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: Uncertainty with drivers


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Drivers (weight/plastic/model/(condition)/use):
167 Star Valk, (beat to hell) - turnovers/rollers
167 Star Valk, (7-8/10) - main distance driver
150 Star Teebird, (beat) - main control driver
167 Star Teebird, (new) - more stable option
17x Star Firebird, (8-9/10) - overstable/headwind
157 Glo Leopard, (7-8/10) - powered down straight shots, gentle turnovers

Mids:
176 Z Buzzz, (beat) - main mid
176 Z Buzzz, (new) - more stable choice
176 FLX Buzzz, (beat, got for free) - water carries
180 Gold Line Fuse (used) - turnovers/flips

Putters:
176 ESP Zone, (7/10) - utility
172 EZE Pure, (9/10) - main putter
174 Opto Pure, (9/10) - driving putter
17x ProD Rattler, (7/10) - touch


My uncertainty comes from trying new things. I have a Flow, Saint and Surge that sometimes rotate in as main distance disc, but I seem to have nose angle issues with them (flow mainly)
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:19 AM
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Drop the Leopard for mold minimalization because im guessing your Star Teebird performs alike? And Drop the Rattler unless you throw it like a champ. It's kind of an easy mode disc, and you should learn shots with your main Putter, the Pure.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:47 AM
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Maybe a hornet to round out your mids. Drivers look fine, a little light, but if you like it. I notice your mids are all pretty heavy, so I'm curious why so light on the drivers?
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:19 AM
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yes add headwind/ utility mid. however im guessing chuckin is referring to your 150 tb because i would never compare a leopard to a tee bird. id be willing to bet something slower like a saint would compete for max d over your valk but you never listed what you put that out to. one of those slow down to go faster theories.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:37 AM
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Drop the Leopard for mold minimalization because im guessing your Star Teebird performs alike? And Drop the Rattler unless you throw it like a champ. It's kind of an easy mode disc, and you should learn shots with your main Putter, the Pure.
This is just bad advice. Teebirds and Leopards compliment each other and are not competing molds.

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yes add headwind/ utility mid. however im guessing chuckin is referring to your 150 tb because i would never compare a leopard to a tee bird. id be willing to bet something slower like a saint would compete for max d over your valk but you never listed what you put that out to. one of those slow down to go faster theories.
I agree but with the Zone it could fill this roll. I consider my Zones slower mids. However, if you do add a O/S mid you should consider a Wasp because it will feel similar to the Buzzz's you throw.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:19 PM
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This is just bad advice. Teebirds and Leopards are not competing molds.
Your right. They aren't brand new. But a Beat 150? Yes, its like a leopard.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:40 PM
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Your right. They aren't brand new. But a Beat 150? Yes, its like a leopard.
I still disagree. Weight and stability are not correleted.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:15 PM
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The bag looks pretty good to me. If you're looking for excuses to buy discs, X-Buzzzes and Pro Valks are both nice versions of molds you're already throwing. Great grip and extra glide from those two make them a lot of fun to throw, a little bit longer, and very nice to have when the weather gets ugly.

You might also dig a 150 class S-PD to bridge the gap between the new Star Teebird and the Firebird.


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I still disagree. Weight and stability are not correleted.
There's a relationship between weight and flight but the relevant factor is how seasoned the Teebird is. Beat on a Star TB for a couple years and it will fly similar to a Leo. Beat Teebirds are always going to be faster and have a touch more LSS but they can do a lot of the same work.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:03 AM
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Thank you guys.

In regards to the TB/Leo, they fly nothing alike for me.

The Leopard, when powered, will turn significantly. Nose down, it holds the turn, a bit of nose up, it will stall out at the end.

The Teebird, when powered, does not turn significantly. Even being pretty beat up (main "control driver" for 2 years now), it will barely move L to R on a full power flat rip before fading. When I say barely move, I mean <5' of lateral movement, absolute tops.

I find that I can shape totally different shots with them, they are both staying.

To the O/S mid, I might have to try some out. I have a Pain that I have had in the bag for a few months, but I didn't find it that much more stable than a Glow Buzzz. I do use my Zone for O/S midrange duties if I really have to fight some wind. Will try a hornet/wasp or something more O/S than the Pain.

Rattler is pure money, that is not going anywhere.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:50 PM
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From the way it's stated, it sounds like you want a disc that you won't worry about losing for water carries. I would suggest replacing your FLX Buzzz with a Pro-D Zone. I didn't carry a buzzz for a very long time (and still don't feel that I would lose many strokes without it) because of this disc, and you can replace it for cheaper than an FLX disc.
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