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Old 11-04-2012, 08:43 PM
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This first throw is with an SPD, it flipped from hyzer to flat, faded out and went a little over 400':

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The second throw is with a DX Roc, I threw it with a touch of hyzer, it turned a little and faded out, went about 315':

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I notice on the first throw that I rolled my wrist under a little, that wasn't intentional. It also looks to me like I'm releasing the disc lower than I'm pulling through. Any advice or critique is welcomed. Thanks!

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Old 11-05-2012, 01:19 AM
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You're not leading with your hips.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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Thanks, that's really obvious now that I look back at those videos. Looks like I need to get my hips turned more away from the target and start the hips rotating before my shoulders start to open up, correct? Anything else you see?
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:22 PM
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Thanks, that's really obvious now that I look back at those videos. Looks like I need to get my hips turned more away from the target and start the hips rotating before my shoulders start to open up, correct? Anything else you see?
^Following that advice will probably eliminate what you showed me in that funky still shot, where you were all contorted. I think that was an effect of you not leading with your hips but with your arm.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:28 PM
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i am kind of suprised you are releasing the disc so low in the vids, i really didnt catch that when we played and i was paying attention ..at least i thought i was
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:25 PM
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Whenever I'm not leading with my hips it's usually because I'm putting my left heel on the ground in my x-step, which is what you're doing. If I focus on staying on my toes during my run-up my hips just naturally open sooner. With your heel on the ground like that you can't swing your left knee in toward your other leg until your foot is off the ground. It makes you pull your back foot along with your hip instead of using it to drive your hip forward.
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It's tricky explaining, but Juke is correct about your core being contorted and fixing the hips should help that. It all starts at the backswing where you kind of over heave your arm/disc and weight, and also get flat footed. Instead of actively bringing the disc backward, you can work your body more around the disc and stay taller/lighter, more relaxed and fluid rhythmically. Turning the hips back more will help, but also helps to turn them back later. You're not getting braced on the front side correctly and you kinda reverse pivot your weight back past your heel so it doesn't really get forward. You also stride really long off the rear leg, try getting more squatty.

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:29 PM
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It's tricky explaining, but Juke is correct about your core being contorted and fixing the hips should help that. It all starts at the backswing where you kind of over heave your arm/disc and weight, and also get flat footed. Instead of actively bringing the disc backward, you can work your body more around the disc and stay taller/lighter, more relaxed and fluid rhythmically. Turning the hips back more will help, but also helps to turn them back later. You're not getting braced on the front side correctly and you kinda reverse pivot your weight back past your heel so it doesn't really get forward. You also stride really long off the rear leg, try getting more squatty.
I'm not sure I understand the bolded part. Also, I agree on the taller/lighter and that the step is too long, but I don't understand what you mean by getting squatty.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:30 PM
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Also, I know I've seen it before, but not totally clear on what you mean by reverse pivot.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:49 PM
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Reverse pivot is maybe not the right term, but your weight is redirected or not coming through the shot properly.

Working more around the disc should help the over heaving issue and this should help understand the over heaving and bracing:
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