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Old 05-23-2013, 10:36 AM
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Doesn't matter whose fault. It sucks. Some people needed the boost from this tourney to register for USADGC. Now they can't. It's going to be nearly 3 months after the tourney before the ratings are reflected. (July 2nd update) If it's known this could be an issue, then a way around it should be thought of up front. (pay the fee, and have county reimburse maybe?)

This is the biggest am tourney of the year (possibly next to worlds) and for it to not be official in ratings for 3 months is ridiculous, no matter the reason.
Sadly but I agree. It's a GREAT event but gotta find a way.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:55 AM
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Another reason for the lack of high profile tournament for the pro's here???

I know two large tournies could be a burden for the club and city.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:53 AM
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You don't have to be such a fanboy. I love playing BG Ams. It's my favorite tournament to play every year. That doesn't meant that the worst parts of the experience aren't directly related to the TD.

Everyone appreciates the efforts that WERE put in, it's the efforts that weren't put in that stand out.
Fanboy? If someone puts as much work into an event as HB and the BG club does every year, I want there to be at least one person who doesnt completely sht on them. Maybe Shawn Sinclair or somebody could have run.the tournament this year, we'll never know. But for a tournament that big to have run that smoothly and then have people go home and completely rip a guys reputation is just sad. DONT come back next year. Not only will there be enough players to fill your spots, there will be a waiting list for those spots.

Maybe, for just once, the tournament community could be appreciative of what they got instead of bitching about everything that didnt go right. But I fear I'm asking way too much

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Old 05-23-2013, 12:04 PM
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Fanboy? If someone puts as much work into an event as HB and the BG club does every year, I want there to be at least one person who doesnt completely sht on them. Maybe Shawn Sinclair or somebody could have run.the tournament this year, we'll never know. But for a tournament that big to have run that smoothly and then have people go home and completely rip a guys reputation is just sad. DONT come back next year. Not only will there be enough players to fill your spots, there will be a waiting list for those spots.

Maybe, for just once, the tournament community could be appreciative of what they got instead of bitching about everything that didnt go right. But I fear I'm asking way too much
complaining about something like a players pack or parking is bitching.

when an event of this size isn't turned in to the PDGA and the reason from the TD is he is awaiting sponorship money to pay fees that the entry covers, that is a legit issue.

Running an event of that size isn't easy. No doubt about that. But turning scores in and paying your fee is easy. No one is knocking that work or anything, just the later part. IMO, it's legit.

If you can come up with a reason why that not paying a fee from a fee collected by players entries is valid, I will no longer have an issue. I would question this from a TD with a spotless reputation, much less one that has been accused by players of poor financial management at his events.

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Old 05-23-2013, 12:06 PM
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Bottom line is it's a PDGA requirement that the TD agrees to when he/she signs the sanctioning agreement - from the sanctioning agreement "Agree to submit all fees (sanctioning, insurance, player, membership, etc.) to the PDGA within the specified time frame as outlined in the Tour Standards".

The Tour Standards state 48 hours to submit the report and 30 days to submit post-event fees.

I played this event for the first time this year and had a blast and thought it was very well organized and executed, with a couple of communication problems, but nothing tragic. As a player, I have nothing to complain about.

As a long time TD however, I'm very surprised ... there really is no excuse for late reports and/or fees. None.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:21 PM
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This will be the start to the end of Bowling Green Ams. I will say when Larry ran it it was better but when he stopped it was passed around three different T.D's in 3 years until HB took over in 2011.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:26 PM
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I think it's funny that his defender is saying that the tournament had 650 people and the players packs were huge and all that but can't defend turning the scores in and paying fees.

Tournament size and player packs is simply icing on the cake. You can enjoy cake without icing, but icing without cake is a big mess.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:30 PM
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How did the tournament get into HBs hands? Did someone just let go of it, I know the first year I played it was maybe 2006-2007 and Ernie Small ran it, and I played when HB ran it one year, both were well ran events. Nothing I could complain about.

I can barely handle running a 60+ event with one other person helping me, I couldn't imagine taking on a task like this. A lot of people on here are bashing HB, but a lot of those same people don't have the cred HB has as far as putting courses out there and exposing the sport to so many. I have no beef with anyone in the sport personally, but there are a lot of people who hold grudges for unknown reasons.

Shawn/Bigshot, are you guys going to step up and run the event next year. What happened to BG hosting a major or an A tier every year? I always thought in the past the BG Ams was to help support a bigger Pro type of tournament? Perhaps I am wrong.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:31 PM
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The size of the tournament, ie. number of players and value etc etc, has nothing to do with turning in a report and paying fees. I'm not even sure why that's part of the discussion.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:39 PM
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I think it's funny that his defender is saying that the tournament had 650 people and the players packs were huge and all that but can't defend turning the scores in and paying fees.

Tournament size and player packs is simply icing on the cake. You can enjoy cake without icing, but icing without cake is a big mess.
I turned in the scores. Along with the other 7 people who volunteered to give up their weekend to help out. I turned them into Andrew as soon as each round was over so that the ratings would be up asap
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