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Old 11-27-2012, 09:04 AM
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Wow. Now some of you guys are making distinctions between wet lost discs and dry lost discs. There must be some cool law degrees being found in boxes of Captain Crunch. I may have to go buy me a box.
I kinda' hope they're right. I have big plans for this Abandonment Law. I have my sights set on better things than just old discs. And I may need these guys to defend me in court.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:05 AM
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It is always the right thing to do to offer to return someone's property to them. You have no idea the circumstances which brought the disc to that place. The only thing you know is that it's not yours.

The right thing for the disc owner to do, if the retrieval is extraordinary---like in gator-infested waters---is to offer a reward. Whether you accept the reward is up to you.
I personally don't accept a reward, at least not in cash, If you wanna buy me a beer well that's another story
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:38 AM
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Proverbs and opinions aside, there is that thing called the law. I know, it's only good when you need it, but it's also there when you break it



You know, we learned as very young children that we dont just take things that dont belong to us. Why dont you go fish your disc and leave the rest?
Why don't I go fish my disc and leave the rest? Well, there is a very simple answer for that, while I don't think down on anyone who pulls a disc out of possable gator infested water and keeps the disc, there are at least 2 guys that go out on a rusty little row boat and fish the shallows for discs, they do not play themselves but I'm pretty sure they sell the found discs on line without making any calls, I've lost a bunch of discs in the water down here that I was unable to find and only got 2 calls back so I know others find discs and do not call, so I figure it's better for me to fish out any discs I find and call the # on it if there is one rather than have somebody else fish it out and sell it at least the owner will get their disc back if I find it, if there is no # on it then I will keep it and if I can get a new player to come out to try disc golf I will let them borrow those. If I come across someone that says thay lost said disc I would let them know I found it and give it back to them(however that has only happened once) but I have returned all but 2 I found with a phone # on them and those 2 when I called there was no one with the name on the disc at that #.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:45 AM
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I kinda' hope they're right. I have big plans for this Abandonment Law. I have my sights set on better things than just old discs. And I may need these guys to defend me in court.
Me too!


The next time I see a car parked on a street in the same place for more than 3 hours in the rain, I am going to claim it as abandoned. There is no way anyone would think it's OK to leave a car out in the rain like that!
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:48 AM
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Me too!


The next time I see a car parked on a street in the same place for more than 3 hours in the rain, I am going to claim it as abandoned. There is no way anyone would think it's OK to leave a car out in the rain like that!
Here we go again...


A disc and car are not comparable. I am not saying don't return discs I am saying be reasonable with the discussion of returned discs.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:21 AM
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A disc and car are not comparable. I am not saying don't return discs I am saying be reasonable with the discussion of returned discs.
Why not?

A chucker caught stealing a pack of gum from a grocery store can be arrested and charged with simple theft.

A d-bag caught stealing a car in the grocery store parking lot can be arrested and charged with motor vehicle theft.

Either way the d-bags and chuckers are claiming something as their own that did not belong to them prior to breaking the law.

The value of stolen property only correlates to the punishment handed down to the people dumb enough to steal items that do not belong to them.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:25 AM
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A misdemeanor and a felony. That's a big difference.

A disc is more like the pack of gum, not the car.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:28 AM
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A misdemeanor and a felony. That's a big difference.

A disc is more like the pack of gum, not the car.
Either action will result in an arrest if caught by a local Law Enforcement Officer.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:30 AM
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I'm curious what should make discs different, anway? Isn't this the right thing to do for anything you find, anywhere? A wallet or a runaway dog or a car left in a parking lot or a phone or anything else of value? If you know it's not yours it must be someone else's; if it's reasonable to assume it has value and fairly easy to ascertain the owner, shouldn't you try to return it?
While I do agree with you on the principal of this issue, and have made efforts to return both discs I found with #'s on them, I think this is being a bit overly dramatic.

I have never thrown my wallet, dog or car over a potential hazard or even thought about doing it. I dont bring my wallet with me when playing so I cant lose it, I leave it locked in my car. I dont park in illegal or restricted parking lots as I dont want my car towed. While my dog does have my name and number on his collar, I have yet to pack him in my bag and chuck him over hazards.

There is inherent risk when using items to play sports. Softballs and baseballs get hit over the fence, sometimes into woods and sometimes kids take them. Should we prosecute people who find balls? How about golf balls? Many a golfer hit them in the woods or water and give up on them. Have yet to find a single golf ball with a name & number on it. Balls go flat, get holes, things happen all the time.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, just that when we make decisions on what to throw you have to at least consider the fact it might get lost. It may stay stuck on the bottom of the pond forever, it may get found by somebody else, it may not get returned. Sure it would be nice to get back, but if it doesn't and I am the one who threw it in the water I have to take some blame for putting myself in this position. I wont lose sleep over a lost disc, but I would over a lost car, wallet and my dog.

I guess I am not as entitled as a few of the posters here. Those who take no blame for the situation and want to make whomever finds their misplaced disc out to be the good guy or the villain. If I am willing to risk losing a disc, I need to know I also risk the chance of never seeing it again.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:39 AM
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Either action will result in an arrest if caught by a local Law Enforcement Officer.
Since this is about finding discs, a LE Officer will never arrest some one for not returning a found disc. So the stealing a pack of gum isn't even a true comparison.
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