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Old 11-10-2014, 02:18 AM
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Stiffer Ion

So I have been putting with a soft Ion for a couple months now. I like it but at times I feel like it's too soft in my hand. When I pull out the Aviar PnA that I started with it feels better but still not what I'm looking for. What would you all recommend? I've thought about trying out a Yeti or a Kc pro.
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Old 11-10-2014, 02:21 AM
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Yesssss. Kc pro aviar. May be too stiff for you at first, but give it a bit and it'll be perfect.

You could try a regular proton/neutron ion as well but I find them too slippery. Soft is where it's at.
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:22 AM
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Try an Ion in regular Proton or Neutron. It will be as stiff as a DX Aviar, if not a bit stiffer.
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:42 AM
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also a mcpro aviar would be much stiffer than your dx aviar and is the same mold as the dx.

or if you want the bead, go kcp aviar like koda mentioned.

im also going to say try an anode in whatever in regular proton or neutron. since you liked the feel of the aviar better. might be worth lookin into
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:48 AM
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The ion was modeled after the Wizard. If you enjoy the feel of base plastic like your dx, but prefer your plastic on the stiff side, a "soft" wizard would be a nice try. They are pretty firm, more so than a KC aviar.
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:10 AM
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try a NOVA. Same grippy, grab the chains overmold as the ion, with a pro flight plate. Its stiff enough that when it hits the chains/pole/cage it makes a percussion sound. Has the same putting characteristics of a aviar P&A.

It does feel a bit deeper, and the overmold is very grippy (which some may not like). As an upshot disc its very finicky (its one of the few truly neutral discs), so you have to release it truly level to get a straight flight (it won't do micro hyzer flips like aviars do). But once you get it down (to get a straight flight means you might have to do reach back and release at shoulder level, and it'll hold whatever anny/hyzer line you put on it, it can be a wonderful upshot disc as well (because its sits where it lands).
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:11 PM
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We have a terrible in store disc golf selection where I am at, so I have to buy most discs online.

My question is are kc pro made from the same mold as the P&As out are they really different? Or are they in any way similar to Ions?
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:22 PM
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KC Aviars are made from the big bead mold. PnAs are beadless.

If you want a stiffer PnA, buy a McPro Aviar. It is a stiff plastic PnA.
If you want a stiffer Ion, buy a Medium Ion. Yes, KC Aviars would be similar to Ions.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:28 PM
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I think you might like a Neutron Ion instead of a regular Proton. Neutron has decent stiffness, and a little more grip than Proton.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:50 PM
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I putt with a Neutron Ion and it's pretty stiff. I use a Soft Proton Ion for my backup and it also putts very well. I'd say just try an Ion in another plastic if you like it already. Been putting with mine for a couple years now and it's been working out great.

Except today I was missing all of my putts...
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