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Old 01-07-2013, 09:11 PM
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so this discussion has gone from some of you denying the fact that major sports have a larger gap between pros and joes to you admitting it only looks like the gap is smaller because our courses aren't hard enough.


does that about some it up?
You can't expect us to remember the things we wrote 40+ pages ago
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:13 PM
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i don't... we all know i'm just here to play devils advocate.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:18 PM
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Discuss if you feel the need.

I think it is fairly significant...probably 70% that of ball golf....when all else is held constant
Have not read all of the pages.

I would think that gap is fairly significnat. Maybe even more that 70%.

Main reason is the amount of money ball golfers make. The salaries the top pro golfers make would attract just about anyone with talent to want to improve and become a touring pro. However, the lack of funds paid to the top disc golfers limits the amount of people who would want to pursue disc golf as a career. Thus, many who would or could become top disc golf pros don't because they choose other career paths.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:31 PM
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Have not read all of the pages.

I would think that gap is fairly significnat. Maybe even more that 70%.

Main reason is the amount of money ball golfers make. The salaries the top pro golfers make would attract just about anyone with talent to want to improve and become a touring pro. However, the lack of funds paid to the top disc golfers limits the amount of people who would want to pursue disc golf as a career. Thus, many who would or could become top disc golf pros don't because they choose other career paths.
This ignores accessibility which could be a more important aspect than financial incentive for many people.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:35 PM
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Skill gap in DG is pretty high, I do think it would be a good bit higher on the more difficult courses. Though comparing the skill gap from one sport to another is almost impossible, unless you have mastered both sports and competed at every level in the sports. I do think that adding Bullseye baskets to Majors or NTs would be interesting, or maybe just the final 9's.

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i don't... we all know i'm just here to get my post count up.
FTFY.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:09 PM
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If a player shoots -12 and wins a NT or shoots -5 and wins an NT, does it make any difference? Par and shots to par are meaningless in both sports (DG and BG). Golf courses have ratings that are the true indicator of how difficult a course is, par is still meaningless (DG courses should have established ratings just the same).
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:17 PM
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I honestly think making putting more challenging would make dg more fit for TV.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:26 PM
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If a player shoots -12 and wins a NT or shoots -5 and wins an NT, does it make any difference? Par and shots to par are meaningless in both sports (DG and BG). Golf courses have ratings that are the true indicator of how difficult a course is, par is still meaningless (DG courses should have established ratings just the same).
But seeing -46 on a scorecard seems kind of silly to ball golfers. Not saying it matters, just commenting on appearances.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:31 PM
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Scores should be shown as number of throws. (They already are in tourneys) What's wrong with saying you shot a 60? Instead of saying "6 over." Or, if a course is known to have a tough scoring average, say 70, then you throw a 80, or 90. Par/birdie/bogey doesn't have to be anywhere in the equation.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:34 PM
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I threw a 41 today, do you have any idea whether that was a good round or not? If we consistently applied a real standardized par, I could tell you I was -4 and you'd know it was a mediocre round. Eliminating the whole concept of par doesn't do anything positive for the sport, it only makes us look less cohesive and coordinated.
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