Pro Vs. Avg Joe- Skill Gap

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by mashnut

Increasing scoring spread is great, but it doesn't really change the problem* of our scores ending up really far under par compared to ball golf when par is set in a reasonable way.

*whether or not it's actually a problem is questionable, I personally doubt that's what's keeping us from "making it big"

Agreed. There seems to be about the same scoring separation as ball golf if you look at tourney results, only difference really is the number under par. If it is the number under par that is the issue then we should be using par 2 and 2.5 and 3.5 to reflect the actual SSA of that hole.

[Toro71]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Adding tougher baskets would not require separate ratings. Everyone in the rating pool would be playing them. The tougher baskets would simply raise the overall SSA for the course compared with regular baskets.

Which is how it should always play out, whatever the 'solution' to the 'problem(s).'

Makes me think of a great quote. When asked if he felt like playing in the rain gave him a competitive disadvantage, Vijay Singh answered "just when I'm the only one it's raining on."

[keltik]

I still want to see 18 holes of par 72 disc golf. 12 par 4's averaging 750ft. 3 par 5's averaging 1000ft and 3 par 3's averaging 375. I want to play and I want to watch pros play it. just to see what happens. Renny Gold is the closest thing that comes to mind (par 70) that I have played. but it isn't quite as long as I prescribe above. so think Renny Gold but longer.

[optidiscic]

PGA pros typically bitch when greens are hard fast and sloped. Just as many pdga players bitch about difficult greens. Those tough greens in either case make for more compelling watchable golf as well as separating joes and pros.

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by keltik

I still want to see 18 holes of par 72 disc golf. 12 par 4's averaging 750ft. 3 par 5's averaging 1000ft and 3 par 3's averaging 375. I want to play and I want to watch pros play it. just to see what happens. Renny Gold is the closest thing that comes to mind (par 70) that I have played. but it isn't quite as long as I prescribe above. so think Renny Gold but longer.

....so Iron Hill.

[optidiscic]

Originally Posted by keltik

I still want to see 18 holes of par 72 disc golf. 12 par 4's averaging 750ft. 3 par 5's averaging 1000ft and 3 par 3's averaging 375. I want to play and I want to watch pros play it. just to see what happens. Renny Gold is the closest thing that comes to mind (par 70) that I have played. but it isn't quite as long as I prescribe above. so think Renny Gold but longer.

You think it's so great until u play one. I think the sweet spot is in the 65-69 range.
Believe it or not a par 54 can produce score separation if done correctly.

[BigSky]

^^^13,125 feet of disc golf? That would take For. Ev. Er.

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by optidiscic

PGA pros typically bitch when greens are hard fast and sloped. Just as many pdga players bitch about difficult greens. Those tough greens in either case make for more compelling watchable golf as well as separating joes and pros.

Johnny Sias advocates fast greens and says players just need to learn how to play the slopes better.

[Cgkdisc]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Johnny Sias advocates fast greens and says players just need to learn how to play the slopes better.

When you make all your putts, the greens don't matter...

[Happablap]

Originally Posted by keltik

I still want to see 18 holes of par 72 disc golf. 12 par 4's averaging 750ft. 3 par 5's averaging 1000ft and 3 par 3's averaging 375. I want to play and I want to watch pros play it. just to see what happens. Renny Gold is the closest thing that comes to mind (par 70) that I have played. but it isn't quite as long as I prescribe above. so think Renny Gold but longer.

Iron Hill is 10,000 ft. Par 72. Woods. Elevation.