Saint/Escape/Stag

[joshuajames]

Originally Posted by jtreadwell

So ManU, I am currently throwing Opto and GL Saints for my main drivers, and need an overstable compliment. The Stag sounds pretty good, but the MVP Shock sounds like it would fit the bill too and it's already available. Have you thrown the Shock? If so, why should I wait for the Stag?

I'm in the same boat...

So I recently ordered a Shock to try out. Then when the Stag comes out I'll pick up a couple of those as well.

I suppose I will keep what works best/feels best in my hand.

Something tells me though, the Westside plastic will break in to the slot I want the Stag to fill.

Not sure how the new MVP drivers are going to break in over a longer period of time?

Either way I'm sure the MP will gladly scoop up a Shock or Stag!

[bradcrow4]

Originally Posted by discddwn

Sounds kind of like a boatman with more glide.

This is what I was thinking. A little less speed than the Boatman but with more glide. I love the Boatman. Will the Stag be just an overlap disc or is there a noticeable difference?

[dobbins66]

I have a BioFuzion Escape that I just got a chance to try over the weekend and so far I'm impressed. After seeing it laying beside a Saint I got yesterday I also was wondering how similar the flight paths were. I'm 46 with Max Golf distance at around 375' and throw 95+% of all drives(and subsequent shots) over 200' RHFH. The big use I found for the escape is slow left turning wooded shots. Thrown it average/low strength down a wooded fairway it held at nice left turn for about 275' with a minimal fade at the end. This seems a little contradictory to others comments but arm strength/throwing style may be a major player. Love the feel of the disc and will leave it in the bag over the next month to see if it earns a permanent place - Looks very promising.

[ManU]

I have not thrown the Shock so I cannot comment on that.

Why wait for the Stag?
hmm sparkle VIP
colorshift TP
Euro bag
manufacturer preference

all that said I think the best bet is as joshuajames states...try both...keep the one you prefer, performs the role to a better standard that you are looking to fill

Compared to the Boatman

I never clicked with the Boatman
it wasn't quite HSS enough for what I expected
and the rim size puts it at a faster spot than the Stag

the Stag and Boatman could be overlap
there is perhaps a similar distance potential with the glide on the Stag vs the speed on the Boatman

the Stag is perhaps more controllable
the wing isn't as big so the fade offs won't be quite the same
and errant throws won't be punished as much

I don't think the Stag is quite as LSS as the Boatman

[mance]

ManU: you mentioned before that you were hoping for a TP 170g? I'm waiting for my 171g (Diamond Red) and 174g (orange) VIP. Probably gonna get them on saturday... but since you mentioned you wanted one 170g TP... why is that? what weights are your discs in your bag?

[ManU]

putters 170/1
mids 175ish
(I have Fuses at 172 and up to 178 and Warships from 171 to 177)
fairway 170/1
(I have 170 GL Rivers and up to 175, I have Saints at 168 to 170, and my only Stag is 172)
distance 168-170
(I might have the odd Havoc/Bolt or Giant at 171 but I prefer 168)

so why 170 TP?

I like my mids in VIP/Opto

but I prefer my drivers in GL/TP

call me crazy but for me there is better glide in the VIP/Opto in the mids but better glide in the GL/TP in the drivers

I also don't have massive power so I find the slight lower stability (relative) of the GL/TP drivers helps me

and why a 170?

for drivers 172 is a touch heavier than I would like in ideal terms

my preference is 168 to 170

I have asked Booter to pick me up 5 TP Stags on Friday in the 168-171 weight range

all it comes down to is personal preference

[Ted Bratton]

So where does a volt and pd fit in?

[Monkeypaws]

Aren't Stag and Banshee somewhat similar?

[mance]

ManU: awesome man... Then I think the Opto / VIP Stag will be perfect for me... I loved my Champ Teebird 174g, Since I use them alot for finess and sidearms. I like the stiffness from the VIP / Opto for that purpose. so from what you mentioned about weights suited for your play. I think my 171 and 174 opto thats on their way will fit perfect

[Buiscutboy]

Originally Posted by Monkeypaws

Aren't Stag and Banshee somewhat similar?

Sounds like the Stag has quite a bit more glide.

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