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Old 01-28-2013, 10:29 PM
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I can't understand why anyone would think a hole like this is a par 4. Easy to shoot a 3 by playing it safe, some players will score the 2 with a great drive and many will go o.b. and take a 4. I bet the overall average for a hole like this would be about a 3.3. That is the type of hole that spreads scores and allows the more confident players a chance to step it up.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:12 AM
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think about intermediate women, advanced grandmasters, young juniors, etc. It takes them 2 legit throws to get to putting range. Par 4.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:13 AM
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since when do old men, women and kids dictate par?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:21 AM
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If the course is designed for them? Golf courses have ladies' tees on almost all courses that are much shorter than the mens' or championship tees. If you added length to the ladies' tees, it would be logical to expect them to take an extra stroke to complete the hole. No? I thought you were mathy.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:33 AM
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so when a women plays the men's tees at a golf course they're playing par 7's? i'm not sure i find that logical.

i'm know i'm going to open the pandora's box of par discussion but are you suggesting that who is playing a hole determines what par should be? so when a 21 year old man who throws 200 feet is playing a 350' par 3 does it become a par 4 for him? do we all just get to decide what par is for us based on how far we can throw?
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:51 AM
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I don't think the elevation drop is 10', at least not quite. I haven't played this one in a while, but I've almost always played it super safe and just thrown out around to the right of the trees for the easy (and safe) 3. I have made it across the water safely a couple if times though. I've alsoost a couple of discs on this hole. I honestly think the drop is more like 6 or 7'. Not a huge difference, but a difference.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:55 AM
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If the course is designed for them? Golf courses have ladies tees on almost all courses that are much shorter than the men or championship tees. If you added length to the ladies tees, it would be logical to expect them to take an extra stroke to complete the hole. No? I thought you were mathy.
The grammar in your reply hurt my brain, so I corrected it for you Lol

Anyway, as a lefty I see myself just throwing my 175g 12x Teebird and taking a birdie Lol Looks like a fun hole for sure.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:54 AM
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Arent there enough confusing pads already at Winthrop? There are like 15 edge courses within 10 minutes if you want to rec it out. Reminds me of the people that desire to have 18 short pads at Nevin, for what? Go to Sugaw, Kilborne, or Eastway.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:01 AM
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Arent there enough confusing pads already at Winthrop? There are like 15 edge courses within 10 minutes if you want to rec it out. Reminds me of the people that desire to have 18 short pads at Nevin, for what? Go to Sugaw, Kilborne, or Eastway.
Never know where you'll find a random teepad at winthrop
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:49 AM
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so when a women plays the men's tees at a golf course they're playing par 7's? i'm not sure i find that logical.

i'm know i'm going to open the pandora's box of par discussion but are you suggesting that who is playing a hole determines what par should be? so when a 21 year old man who throws 200 feet is playing a 350' par 3 does it become a par 4 for him? do we all just get to decide what par is for us based on how far we can throw?
To hopefully keep a "What is Par?" debate from erupting, I will simply post the PDGA par diagram and let you see that indeed higher par designations exist for the same length holes when you look at lower skill levels compared to top skill levels.



In the case of this hole, lower levels would not be expected to carry the water in one throw.....so that makes it a 2-throw hole (par 4) and in reality they would be expected to navigate around the water - 470'. As you see, for both Red & White divisions, 470' is solidly par-4 (and 370' is par-4 for Red - even if you took the water out of the design).

So yes......it would be perfectly logical to have this hole's sign say "Blue Par-3" and "Red Par-4"
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