Hyzer Flip

[BogeyNoMore]

If your distance with a certain disc is limited by the fact that it turns over and isn't fading back at all (or not very much), then:

releasing it with some hyzer will increase the distance it covers before it starts to turn (because it has to "flip up" from a hyzer angle to flat before it can turn), giving it a fuller flight and more distance. It's also going slowly when it gets to the point where it would turn becuse wind resistance has had more time to work on it ( i.e. it starts to further down the fairway), which can sometimes mean it won't turn over quite so much, and may even come back more towards the original line you threw one, which means you pretty much milked all you're gonna get outta that disc in it's current state of "flippiness."

These generalizations are true for all discs, be they Firebird or Roadrunner.

This assumes proper form (i.e. the disc turns over from reaching the speed at which it will turn over and not come back, rather than the thrower OATing the disc into a "turn and burn " scenario).

[BogeyNoMore]

Originally Posted by skurf

For me, I don't particularly throw hyzer-flips for extra distance. I throw them because they have less lateral movement, and I can keep them low without having them turn into the ground. They also tend to have less fade at the end since it will be a fairly understable disc that I'm throwing. If I was going for max distance I would throw it much higher with a relatively level release to have it turn more instead of hyzer flip to flat with only a minimal amount of turn. However this is not as accurate and has a lot more lateral movement.

^ great point. This kind of gets to the point I was making about if the disc is going slower when it gets to the point wher it does turn, it won turn as much (because of it isn't going as fast at that point)so it holds a tighter line than it would have had it been thrown flat.

Depending on the shot you want, its about finding that sweet spot where you get that disc to flip up, turn a bit, and fade back - all the D, without using a lot of width.

If it only flips flat (but doesn't really turn over), then it can hold a tighter line (at the sacrifice of some D).
All depends what you're trying to achieve.