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View Poll Results: # of bad throws (not counting putts)
0-1 per round (Seldom blow up) 6 4.80%
2-4 per round 53 42.40%
4-6 per round 46 36.80%
6-9 per round (one every other hole) 15 12.00%
9-18 per round (almost one every hole) 4 3.20%
More than 1 per hole (hitting trees all the time) 1 0.80%
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:29 AM
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Saving par doesn't necessarily negate mistakes - maybe it shoulda been a deuce.
Saving par, means something went wrong. Lol. I save par more than I should lol.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:31 AM
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Saving par, means something went wrong.
BINGO! How did I miss that bit of logic?
I love explanations that are simple yet elegant.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:41 AM
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On average I have about 2-4 terrible shots that I either griplock, or miss my line completely each round on more difficult courses that require finesse. I have little of that off the box. But, my second shot after that bad throw is what I focus on. After that, its just disc choice and course management. If I get those two things right, I can generally put myself in a position to save a par. On harder, more technical holes, I might just pitch out to the fairway and play for my 4. Iv'e found that when I go for too much I get in more trouble.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:03 AM
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This is a tough poll for me to answer, it really depends on the day. I either consistently suck for the day, or I consistently play average for the day and have random moments of glory.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:00 PM
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My most recent round on my very technical course I shot even and I had 5 if I remember correctly. 14 of my drives were great, all but one ridiculous upshot was great, and I only had one bad putt inside the circle. This is a personal best for sure so I hope it's the norm for me in the future. Before I averaged probably ~+5 per round hitting lots of trees, throwing high/nose up, throwing low or short, and not having good enough accuracy to birdie on this heavily wooded course. I got a lot of bogeys because of all the stuff in my way after the bad drives. Also my poor long open upshots and 20+ putts took some strokes. My form, power, accuracy, precision, and putting all improved immensely after playing 2-3 rounds every day I could over my month long winter break. Playing alone is so much more productive for me than even playing with people better than me.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:05 PM
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I would say that I have never had the perfect round where all my drives went exactly where I intended.....so I voted 2-4 times.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:22 PM
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Bad shots = Your Score - Course SSA (SSE will do in most cases)

That is, if you are trying to shoot Scratch golf.
Add your target handicap if your goal is different than that

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Old 02-06-2013, 03:00 PM
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Not exactly - I can think of a couple reasons you might not make SSA / SSE that aren't what I was thinking about. Noob with short but very accuracte drives. Accurate drives but suck at putting.

I was wondering about how many times folks have throws (drive and approach not putt) that they just watch and say "WTF - I screwed that up!!"
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:22 PM
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The reason why I think using SSA (adjusted for desired/target handicap) is good is that a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what a real screw-up is.

Sure, we all have moments where we totally grip-lock a drive 45-90 degrees off-course, or have a 30' putt hit the ground before the basket. Maybe that is what you talking about in this poll/thread. That is fine.....it is fun to laugh at ourselves!

But, I see comments in this thread about people trying to eliminate/reduce screw-ups. If your screw-ups are not affecting your score.....then how can you call them screw-ups? A handicap has a calculated amount of screw-ups built in for the level of player. So if I want to be a 950 rated player on a course with an SSA/SSE of 48 (a typical course), I should be scoring around 53. Every stroke above that is caused by a screw-up.

Anecdotally, some blow-ups are followed by an amazing recovery (so there is no penalty for the blow-up). Some blow-ups are followed by an OK recovery (one stroke added), or followed by another blow-up (2 or more strokes added). Sometimes it is just a small miss that adds a stroke......but that stroke averages/cancels out the blow-up with excellent recovery. You can argue stroke-by stroke if this works.....but over the long term (say 10+ rounds) it is a great/accurate indicator.

If you are consistent and feel like you do not have many big blow-ups (grip-locks, "nice up" putts, etc) but are still not performing to your desired handicap.......well, you need to reassess what a big blow-up for you is. That is the main point of why I think SSA/SSE is extremely useful in assessing and eliminating the errors.
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Wow you guys are way more consistent than me.
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