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Old 04-20-2014, 11:45 PM
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champ sidewinder variations

note this thread is not meant to bash innova. we all know its hard to make a consistent disc and there is plenty of variables that play into molding. however it is not defending their inconsistencies either.

the sw is one of the first discs that taught me bh and fh.

so i used to love to throw my champ sidewinder. it was a regular rim flight numbers. could throw low hyzer flip lasers with it. get great turn overs. hell even throw it on a hyzer and would somewhat hold it. great all around go to driver. you could out some mustard behind it and know it wont turn and burn ( kind of how a fury does) unfortunately then i lost it on a blind shot one day. and i havent found a replacement since.

anyways recently i have been looking for a disc that is just like the old ones they used to produce. i dont like throwing oop. i like going to buy one off the shelf and knowing it will fly the same as my old one.

old PFN-blunt ish nose. straight rim. understable. low plh

FN- stable (netural), big fade, slanted rims high plh. slim nose

JL-highest plh, going to test it tomorrow. somewhat bluntish nose

here is the PFN (left) vs FN (right)



here is PFN (left) vs JL (right)



here is FN (left) vs JL (right)



so just a few questions to start off.

what other discs have the same kind of rim as a sidewinder that i could try?

do the star sw have any variations like this such as slanted rims, or change of nose bluntness? comparing it to the PFN sidewinder

whats everyone elses experience with the sw?
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:15 AM
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Try a Millennium QOLS. You'll like it.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:15 AM
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I've only really thrown PFN champs and a couple PFN stars. Both have the same nose/PLH but one is significantly more beat than the other and I use it for rollers/tailwinds/hyzer flip turnovers. The more stable one I use is just a straight laser. Holds any line I put on it.

I've heard some of the newer runs fly like a completely different mold with a higher PLH and diff looking wing. I haven't thrown any current runs to verify this. Hopefully it's not the case because I love me some $idewinders. Hopefully the new G*'s fly like a sidewinder should.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:18 AM
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I want to say the AMP is MVP's sidewinder.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:25 AM
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amp is not a sw.
I've also only thrown PFN star and champ. well i've thrown FN star, which is a bit more overstable, which I kinda like.

champs i'm not sure how they differ, but the PFN are good.
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:01 AM
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Opto saint. A little on the lighter side.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:05 AM
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I have a stack of different Sidewinders that I haven't thrown in a long time.
It was my first driver, and accumulated a few different ones.
(Did the same with Valkyries)
I will have to dig them out, and look at them.
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would love to see the star comparisons
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:48 PM
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Due to similar issues with how the various Sidewinders I had over the years flew I retired Sidewinders in favor of Avenger SS's, and retired the Avenger SS in favor of the Mongoose.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:42 PM
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Due to similar issues with how the various Sidewinders I had over the years flew I retired Sidewinders in favor of Avenger SS's, and retired the Avenger SS in favor of the Mongoose.
what does the mongoose rim look like? is it pointy at all? is it comfortable for flicks
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