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Old 03-28-2013, 01:56 PM
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I am always surprised by how technophobic so many disc golfers are.
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Great post.....great $0.02. This is the sort of stuff I am curious about.

I ran a lot of scoring/logistics in the 2003-2008 timeframe....and I helped a lot of TD's who had no earthly clue on how to run Excel (let alone have it). Heck....email for some and PayPal for many was a whole bright new day for them every time they touched it.

But times have changed a lot since then.....Blackberries were cutting edge in 2008 for goodness sake!

While many are still not electronically enabled (no email or cell phone....let alone smartphone), all you need is one smart phone per group. I am not sure we are there yet.....but eventually we will be.

Are we there yet? I do not know since I am not out on the tournament scene much anymore. That's why all input like yours is appreciated.
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:00 PM
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Are we there yet? I do not know since I am not out on the tournament scene much anymore. That's why all input like yours is appreciated.
I would think we're there. Maybe not in some of the age restricted divisions, but certainly among the more youthful players 1 in 4 has smartphones.

I don't think you can ever do away with the players meeting. A webcast one just seems to complicate things and create more problems than it solves. However, the idea of caddy notes and instant communication certainly would be helpful.
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:26 PM
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This could also be affected by Geographic region as well. Here in Pittsburgh we are definitely "there". I would say 3 out of 4 tourney players have smartphones. But playing in nearby regions (west, south, east) it is a whole different story. Maybe this would play best in Metropolitan areas at this point in time???
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:59 PM
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Not the same thing, but I was thinking of using a text message to one person in each group to send the 2 minute warning and the start signal out: our course is too spread out for everyone to hear any sort of audio signal when we do shotgun starts.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:53 PM
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What if there are questions from some of the players the TD needs to clear up? Having been on conference calls for work and other situations, I know that if there are more than a few people doing that, getting a word in while trying to hear all the others and getting an explanation can be really tough. Being in person is easier for that.
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I've played a few tournaments that had no players meeting at all---just a handout with all you need to know on it. Heck, Charlotte Worlds had a players meeting with virtually no information in it, and no meetings at each course. Just show up and play.

But I'd be cautious before making an event reliant on smartphones. Start small. Murphy's Law says that even if 80% of players have phones, you'll end up with a group that has none. Or that has one, and the batteries die. And heaven forbid it's the TD's.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:59 PM
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Not the same thing, but I was thinking of using a text message to one person in each group to send the 2 minute warning and the start signal out: our course is too spread out for everyone to hear any sort of audio signal when we do shotgun starts.
If everyone yells "start" when the horn sounds (or traditionally a shotgun blast?), the message gets around the course quickly no matter how big and spread out. I love hearing the yelling from near and far when players do this.....definitely adds to the excitement of the event for me.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:15 PM
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What if there are questions from some of the players the TD needs to clear up? Having been on conference calls for work and other situations, I know that if there are more than a few people doing that, getting a word in while trying to hear all the others and getting an explanation can be really tough. Being in person is easier for that.
I am very half-hearted about the WebEx idea (although it is amuzing) since I work in technology and nobody can seem to get a WebEx (or Goto Meeting) session even started! So, that is the state of things now.....but this sort of stuff will be much improved and much more main-stream shortly. So, it is worth thinking about pioneering in this area now....well, at least its fun thinking about it.

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I've played a few tournaments that had no players meeting at all---just a handout with all you need to know on it. Heck, Charlotte Worlds had a players meeting with virtually no information in it, and no meetings at each course. Just show up and play.

But I'd be cautious before making an event reliant on smartphones. Start small. Murphy's Law says that even if 80% of players have phones, you'll end up with a group that has none. Or that has one, and the batteries die. And heaven forbid it's the TD's.
How did the no players meeting events go? Any problems? Any squawking? As an out of towner, players meetings have made me feel more welcomed and a bigger part of things.

On the downside like you said, batteries are an issue and so are issues like rain, poor speaker quality, bright sunlight making maps or ground rules hard to read. But players meetings often have poor speaker quality too (buh dum bum) and paper maps get wet or lost.


If I were still in the role of "infoguy" for tournaments, at a minimum I would certainly be making a web page for every tournament that was full of all pertinent info......formatted in a way that is easy to consume on a smart phone.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:18 PM
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However, the idea of caddy notes and instant communication certainly would be helpful.
THIS. A virtual caddy book for a tournament would be awesome.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:22 PM
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I've only played 3 tourneys but I can see the point of it .

The last tourney I played , one of our group got a phone call after we holed out on our first basket telling us " All of you just played the wrong basket !". " " No , we played the long basket from long tee pad ! " " No , you were supposed to play the loooong basket that's farther away and hidden down that gulley ! "
Oh , even with the scribbled handout , we couldn't find it ! Once we did , we replayed the hole last to complete the round. So farther along we all had to go look for the 3rd basket on the holes . I'd played there 3 times and I had never noticed these extra , hidden baskets !

And my second tourney , on my home course , I used my PDGA app to keep score of our groups . It was the easy way to have correct totaled scores at the end of it . A couple scores got recounted after the phone said the total was different .

So , maybe not yet , but when there's an app set up , it will make it easier for everyone !
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