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Old 05-20-2013, 08:50 PM
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I haven't seen the MikeC vid yet. Absent that, this video has the best forehand clinic I've seen so far. Hokom takes the stage at 16:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOq09T2q54&feature=fvwp

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Old 05-20-2013, 09:10 PM
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Ok, I'll admit my form sucks, and I am clueless. So help me out. How do you throw an anhyzer with the technique this video shows? I have tinkered with bending at the waist more, and it does help me on shots when I am trying to throw a hyzer flip, or simply throw an understable disc farther on a straight line. But how would you execute an anhyzer or flex shot with this technique? It reminds me of one of the Discraft Clinic videos. Bend at the waist and pull through. It also seems like it would make throwing any over stable disc more difficult since you are bending and releasing the disc on some kind of hyzer.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...C295CD56519888

This is Mike's youtube page. Looks like there are 2 forehand videos. I think the 2nd one is the one we are talking about, but check them both. Gonna watch this Hokom vid now She had some great sidearm throws in her Prodigy bag video. I'm gonna show her off to my daughter so she sees there are female pros too. She's loving disc golf so far.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:25 PM
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Ok, I'll admit my form sucks, and I am clueless. So help me out. How do you throw an anhyzer with the technique this video shows? I have tinkered with bending at the waist more, and it does help me on shots when I am trying to throw a hyzer flip, or simply throw an understable disc farther on a straight line. But how would you execute an anhyzer or flex shot with this technique? It reminds me of one of the Discraft Clinic videos. Bend at the waist and pull through. It also seems like it would make throwing any over stable disc more difficult since you are bending and releasing the disc on some kind of hyzer.
At a Feldberg clinic, he said you don't normally pull across the chest, but through your center of gravity. Then he demonstrated an anhyzer by basically bending over backwards and pulling across the chest. Anyway, that's how I learned to do it.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:27 PM
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My bad, that first vid on Mike C's page is the newest one. It rocks
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:34 PM
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At a Feldberg clinic, he said you don't normally pull across the chest, but through your center of gravity. Then he demonstrated an anhyzer by basically bending over backwards and pulling across the chest. Anyway, that's how I learned to do it.

Agreed. But Will is saying you need to bend forward at the waist. So that would mean the whole basis for that video is only good for certain shots or discs. It is one possible answer for certain shots. Not a comprehensive technique to improve your throws. Bending over backwards and pulling across the chest is much different than bending forward and throwing through your core. Which is OK, especially if those are two of the better ways to execute those 2 specific shots, but that makes learning one method pretty limited. Does this then mean I need to bend even further at the waist for hyzer flips than what Will shows in that video?

Maybe I'm just too damn literal and anal.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:55 PM
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I've been maxing out at 300ft for years now, and I think this is the first video where I've actually been able to watch it and then go out and see results.

Usually, it's either "oh, this new footwork will be way better" or "drop the shoulder and swing more smoothly - got it!" and then I go out and release a few 75ft duds and go right back to my tried-and-true "3 step and swing my arm across my pecs as hard as I can" throw.

Pretty much everything I'm doing falls into his "wrong" category, but having it spelled out and seeing him step through the process really worked when I hit the course and tried some of the "right" ways tonight. I don't think any of my 27 drives (9-holer, 2-4 drives per) were actually good drives, but I was able to go back and pick out what went wrong on each of them, and some towards the end were boardering on the best throws I've ever made on the respective holes. I might have ruined my game for a while, but maybe it's time.

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Agreed. But Will is saying you need to bend forward at the waist. So that would mean the whole basis for that video is only good for certain shots or discs. It is one possible answer for certain shots. Not a comprehensive technique to improve your throws. Bending over backwards and pulling across the chest is much different than bending forward and throwing through your core. Which is OK, especially if those are two of the better ways to execute those 2 specific shots, but that makes learning one method pretty limited. Does this then mean I need to bend even further at the waist for hyzer flips than what Will shows in that video?

Maybe I'm just too damn literal and anal.
It should be bending at the hip joint literally, not the waist which is part of the spine. Hyzer and anhyzer swing planes are created by the tilt of the spine braced against the bent front hip. Bending of the spine is not recommended.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:09 AM
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I haven't seen the MikeC vid yet. Absent that, this video has the best forehand clinic I've seen so far. Hokom takes the stage at 16:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOq09T2q54&feature=fvwp

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Thanks for this post Jen. I took something from each of the players, but the toe-heel-toe and hip push instead of rotate things Feldberg discussed are some things I've never heard described before. I'll be imaging trying that until I can actually get out.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:24 AM
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I checked out the Will video when he posted it on facebook and practiced with the towel a little and could instantly see more speed and towe snap pulling through my core then at my chest. I can throw easier and it doesn't seem as hard on my shoulder either. The only thing I need to be careful with doing that however is not coming up with my throw and skying it, I have nose angle issues as it is

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I haven't seen the MikeC vid yet. Absent that, this video has the best forehand clinic I've seen so far. Hokom takes the stage at 16:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOq09T2q54&feature=fvwp

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I need to watch this because I've just tried working some forehands into my practice and its admittedly pitiful lol...I just can't get any power or snap on them

that Nikko putt however I just cant manage....Ive tried it and it just floats and wobbles and I cant get distance on it. Im obviously a better spin putter.....

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