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Old 05-24-2013, 10:28 PM
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Well, just refer any naysayers to their city councils and legislation in order to pull all municipal ball golf courses as well. I've seen far more beer consumption on municipal ball golf courses than I've ever seen on disc golf courses.
That misses the point. It's not about what the laws should be. It's about what the laws are. Sure, you can pursue changing the laws, and maybe even succeed.

Where "No alcohol" is the rule in the park and the local authorities wish to enforce it, openly flouting the rule is risking bad consequences, not just for the drinker but for the rest of the disc golf community.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:42 PM
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That misses the point. It's not about what the laws should be. It's about what the laws are. Sure, you can. Pursue changing the laws, and maybe even succeed.

Where "No alcohol" is the rule in the park and the local authorities wish to enforce it, openly flouting the rule is risking bad consequences, not just for the drinker but for the rest of the disc golf community.
I understand, but minicipal courses are also considered city parks. If the rules do not apply to those city parks, then what creates the separation of law applications?

Though I certainly see the benefits of asking golfers to clean up behind themselves, I believe that the issue is more of littering and less of consumption. I do not drink on the course simply because it destroys my score and I appreciate clarity of mind while I play, however, I take no issue with other people that choose to drink while they play. It's their prerogative. As long as they consume in a responsible manner then I see no issue; leave adults to make their own decisions. If they do not respectfully consume, let the local disc community deal with them directly. If they do not take well to that, call in the proper authorities. However, an assertive disc golf community can do quite a bit of self-policing and clearing of the rift raft.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:59 PM
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I just think it is unrealistic to expect disc golfers to put bags of empty beer cans in their cars and drive away. Sure, it's risky to consume publicly in the park, but they can transfer the container so it is not obvious. But multiple counts of open container isn't a risk they need to assume, so why would they? If your community really has that big a stick up it's rear that they would pull a course over beer cans in the trash, maybe it's time to move.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:02 PM
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Coming from an area with a littering problem, I find it absurd that they have a problem with trash cans filling up. Most cities should be excited by people getting out and enjoying parks. I could see it being a big problem if people were being belligerent or driving drunk. But the city makes a big chunk of money from alcohol sales. Not to mention being out while your drinking is a lot more healthy than sitting on your couch and doing it.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:16 PM
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You have to look at this from the other point of view.
Drunky McDrunkerson doesnt want to be caught weaving down the freeway with open containers, so he deposits them as soon as he drains them.
The rule is that if you provide trash receptacles, expect them to be filled with alcohic containers.
Urge your parks to use the " pack it in, pack it out " mentality, take away the trash cans, and hang anybody that drops an empty, anytime, anywhere, without asking questions.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:24 PM
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taking away the trashcans is a pretty dumb solution, nobody will ever be there enough to police the littering.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:35 PM
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That's why you carry mixed drinks in a nalgene bottle. It's discreet and you leave no litter behind.
Drinking in public 101.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:38 PM
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If you can't give up the booze for a couple hour round you have a problem. Just drink extra when you get home if need be. This isn't a very complicated issue.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:47 PM
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Causing someone pain is helpful?
Let's agree to disagree.
Mental pain, as nobody is saying it's a good idea to beat someone up for littering.

We cleaned up a course today and 85% of all trash on the course we bagged was beer cans. And we have trash cans at every tee pad. I don't care if you drink, smoke, hell....shoot junk. Just do it respectfully and don't leave your cans, bottles, pipes or syringes along the course.

If you course is about to get shut down because of drinking, then take your cans, bottles with you. This is NOT rocket surgery!
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:52 PM
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^^ I agree, but 'rocket surgery' is the the funniest thing I have seen all night!
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