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Old 07-29-2013, 03:43 PM
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What seems off? You think the SSE's low?

Because your ratings seem sort of sensible given the SSE.

What's the SSE? 48.5 for 6345 feet or so (18 holes). It is interesting that the course average is 17 strokes higher than the SSE. That's probably a little further off than some courses.

I don't have enough intuition for the SSE formula to comment on its value for this course...

At the last tournament there a 56 is rated 946(even "54" is 966) and the previous year a 56 was 962. I know that I am not including weather etc in this. I'm not griping, I just think something is off with the metric for this type of course given the disparity.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:49 PM
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Changing it to "Moderately Wooded" brings the SSE in line although the course obviously is lightly wooded. I might have to make a private terrain adjustment field to take care of some courses so that the one can remain accurate in terms of course description.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:38 AM
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Any thoughts of adding the variable of wind/rain into the calculation?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:12 AM
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Any thoughts that this cool feature may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:14 AM
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It's absolutely no trouble at all and no, adding dynamic weather conditions to the formula won't happen.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:46 AM
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It's absolutely no trouble at all and no, adding dynamic weather conditions to the formula won't happen.
*hehe* I agree with Timg on this one.. we already *barely* have enough 'real' SSA data to calibrate the three SSE formulas against as it is. Having to further categorize each 'real' SSA by whether or not it was generated during fair weather or not just stretches what little data we have too far to be accurate.

Unless of course someone out there can provide me with a wealth of 'real' SSA's + course layout length data (for 18-hole as well as non-18-hole layouts), along with the associated 'foliage value' *and* weather conditions for each and every round of it. I'd *love* to collect this kind of data, but so far no one has been able to help at all.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:18 PM
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The SSE formula has been adjusted slightly and all round/player ratings have been updated accordingly.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:40 PM
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What did the adjustment adjust?
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:43 PM
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What did the adjustment adjust?
The adjustment implemented the fix to non-18-hole courses that we discussed (related to the extra-length-scalar), as well as the change from a 255ft. to a 235ft. constant for 'heavily wooded' courses. Also, it looks like there may be some glitches with historical rounds currently.. player and round ratings for a lot of rounds are off currently. :P
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:46 PM
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I just looked and my recent rounds the ratings seemed a bit more accurate, but when I clicked to view all to see some of the older rounds they all changed to n/a. Now even the most recent rounds are showing n/a.
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