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Old 09-06-2013, 02:20 PM
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Stuck between 320'-340' on golf lines. I would like to add another 40'-50'.

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Old 09-06-2013, 04:22 PM
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Stop throwing high speed drivers. Slow down. Don't lean over your rear leg away from the target trying to shift your weight back. Turn your hips and shoulders back instead, your weight will already be on the rear leg 100% and should be kept on the inside of the foot/leg until your weight transfers to the front leg and then begin throwing. Your front shoulder never stops moving forward and goes past your front side foot/hip brace, so there is nothing to leverage it against. You end up releasing momentum around to the right instead everything down the target line. Your followthrough should be balanced on the plant foot with the hips staying behind the front foot, not stepping forward or being thrown forward from the shoulders being ahead of the hips so far.

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Old 09-06-2013, 04:29 PM
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Why? You play a lot of courses with an unusual number of 400-500 ft holes? Practice your short game to pick up strokes.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:43 PM
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Overall form thoughts: You are torquing in order to throw slight-annys to get your distance - it's common, but will not help your distance in the long run. You can identify this yourself by noticing that all your discs are having the same flight pattern and a heavy dump on their fade (especially the Nuke and Destroyer) - this is indicative of not getting your disc 'up to speed' and I'd recommend dropping anything faster than a speed 9-10 at this point.

The fix: Slow down and start throwing hyzer and flat. Work on literally shortening your steps to get power out of your lower body and core instead of through momentum and the run-up. Purposefully shorten your run up; do a small step, get right into a tight controlled X-step, and think of your body as a compact machine with the arm for snapping discs out. Transfer your weight without leaning forward and coming off the teepad at your follow through, generate snap and not torque/momentum/push. Start throwing mids for your practice sessions ... especially ones that will reward good form and stick to a line, as well as punish torque/forced turnovers (I like the Meteor, Buzzz, Warship, Kite and a variety of 'driving' putters for this). Lastly, but importantly, learn to hyzer-flip; your entire concept of disc flight and distance will change when you do, and it's an excellent way of telling if you are getting a disc up to speed and achieving straight/controlled lines.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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Why? You play a lot of courses with an unusual number of 400-500 ft holes? Practice your short game to pick up strokes.
Are you being serious? Some people just like be able to throw as far as they can. Some people just want to be able to at least have the chance to park longer holes than they can now. Distance is underrated by many people, mostly those with average or poor distance. When I have the option to run for a 400' ace or try to park a 450' hole I at least have a chance of doing so & people without that distance don't even have that option. Plus the OP asked for advice on his driving form, not what can he do to improve in general. I agree that the esies way to lose strokes is to improve on short game & putting. Gaining distance is hard to achieve but totally worth it in the long run. Would you give the same advice you gave to the OP to a person throwing only 250'? Distance is very important, it's all about your form & run-up. I know a 13 year old kid who's max distance is around 350', should I tell him to just work on his short game?
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:09 PM
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The long distance isn't worth much if you don't have the accuracy.
I beat a lot of younger players that can throw 100'+ farther than me. I would beat them by more strokes but I get tired and out of rhythm from looking for their lost discs on every other hole.
Get your accuracy down then add distance.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:03 PM
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Jack Nicklaus said something about driving for dough and that he hardly ever practiced putting.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:37 PM
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His drives were accurate more times than not.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:50 PM
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I didn't know Jack played disc golf. Interesting....
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:36 PM
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Thanks for the input everybody.

The point is well taken on distance not being everything. Or even half the game for that matter. However, I do indeed play many places where the distance game is big. Unfortunately, coupled with distance, many of the places I play are not only long, but tight as well. This is where I get into ALOT of trouble off the tee. I end up coming out of my shoes (trying to kill it) to eek out every inch. I'm hoping to clean up my form and gain the few extra feet without subconsciously resorting to trying to horse it down the fairway.

That being said, I have kind of known I should disc down. Sometimes you just gotta hear it. And I do feel ya'll on the rushing it up the teepad. I never really feel the balance I think I should feel when I watch someone who knows what they're doing. Here's to looking forward to taking it down a notch, getting fluid and working on balance. I've always kind of had a touch of an anny release on my high speed drivers so that may be the hardest habit to break. The anny flight pattern always just seems to fit my eye the best.

I'm not trying to hang with the big arms. I'm 10years+ over the "never trust anyone over 30" age so I'm just trying to get it to happy spot without hurting (both literally and figuratively) myself in the long term.

As for hyzer flipping, I can flip up a leopard (300'), a buzzz (250'-270') or putters (200'-250') somewhat consistently, but even those get squirrelly for days on end and in any kind of wind forget about it. Flat is where it's at with my slower stuff. If I try to hyzer flip anything faster it will often just crash out. And to say I don't trust the shot in a tunnel is an understatement. But I do respect the hyzer flip and work on it quite a bit.

So, again, thank you all. Back to the drawing board with new thoughts up top.
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