My first disc golf ACE (playing since Nov, 09) from 289 ft, hole #1 at a Tuesday Red Ridge Doubles Tourney and my buddy Kelly was there to capture on vid. Mike Cloyes and Tom "TR" Robinson from Baskethead witnessed and signed the 175g midrange Discraft HAWK. I like that you can hear the snap on the release (19secs) and then watch it hyzer to center chains. Bonus: I was the "Cali" so the entire $165 Ace pot was pocketed. I promptly bought more discs.