Old Farts Only 40+ (no kids allowed)

[Vintage Folfer]

Kids today!

When I was in college I came across some ancient Latin that translated as: "Kids today, no respect! Things was different when I was their age!" This has literally been going on for thousands of years. Every generation sees the next one as deficient in some way.

But: disc golf brings generations together with something they have in common. I often end up playing with people less than half my age. We have a great time.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Not really directing this at you Envy, but many parents. Our generation (old farts over 40+) is the real cause, not the children.

Well duh, because the kids haven't done anything yet.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

When I was in college I came across some ancient Latin that translated as: "Kids today, no respect! Things was different when I was their age!" This has literally been going on for thousands of years. Every generation sees the next one as deficient in some way.

But: disc golf brings generations together with something they have in common. I often end up playing with people less than half my age. We have a great time.

That's awesome! Hahaha

Yeah don't get me wrong I love playing with kids and I really enjoy them for the most part. In fact I usually enjoy playing with the young discers more because, well they idolize me sometimes and are just generally awesome....

I just wish I could find some decent help at work.. Or someone to mow my grass at 50 percent effort of what I would put in... do I hear 40.... 40 percent effort... 25 an hour... cash.

Or...
Want to be an apprentice electrician?

Yes!

Hey great, just staple this across here and give me a hand with this ground plate..

How often do we have to dig?

Just when we need to, I try to avoid it..

Why do we have to get in that crawlspace? I want to install switches like it shows on the front of the career pamphlet.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

So there's a discussion going on in another thread about the L and X bottom on Innova stuff. Apparently it's old guys that figure it's a leopard bottom. Which is also apparently wrong haha. X is maybe for extra stable... I thought it was Leopard that's how I distinguished or remembered.

What do you folks remember?

 

[Tripper]

I'm old enough to be nostalgic for the long ago days when we were called worthless stupidy lazy whining sniveling entitled human meatbags. Yeah, us Baby Boomers. The "Establishment" didn't have a lot nice to say about us in the 60s and 70s, either. Odd to grow up and find out that, sometimes, they were right.

One of my favorite quotes, "By the time a man realizes his dad may have been right, he has a son that thinks he's wrong"

 

[DavidSauls]

One of my favorite quotes, "By the time a man realizes his dad may have been right, he has a son that thinks he's wrong"

Never heard that one. Great stuff.

 

[Getty]

One of my favorite quotes, "By the time a man realizes his dad may have been right, he has a son that thinks he's wrong"

The older I get, the smarter my dad becomes.

 

[Keller]

My usual gang of old chuckers has pretty much broken up do to general life issues so I have gone back to playing solo and/or hooking up with people on the course. In the last year or so, I've been playing with lots 20 somethings and the one thing that has amazed me is how eager they are to learn the game.

Met one on the first tee and he said, you can play through.
Wanna play together?
No, I'm not very good.
It's ok, maybe I can help.
Nah, you go.
Ok. So I get up and throw my usual shot (it's a very tight tunnel through the woods) a hyzer flipped Roc and it lands in the middle.
He says, yeah, I'll play with you.
What changed your mind?
I've never seen anyone throw a straight shot like that!
Played a round, ended up helping him out a little, gave him a few slower speed discs and a putter, and told him to put away the Boss for awhile.

I've run into a lot of these scenarios, and I've been keeping a box of old discs in my car to hand to noobs that genuinely seem interested but, I'm running out of mids and have no putters left!

The one thing I notice with younger players is they ask "how did you do that'? Instead of older players with big egos who say "you can't do that" even after watching the shot executed. Yeah, you know those guys, the ones who say you need a Firebird to throw a forehand!:wall:

Best one this year;
Hooked up with a college kid who was waiting for his friends. Friends were late, but they joined in, then we met up with a Vietnam vet and he joined, So we had a five-some ranging in age from 19 to 70! We played two rounds and it was the most fun I've had on the course this year!

This is the one sport where age really doesn't seem to matter

 

[TAFL]

But: disc golf brings generations together with something they have in common. I often end up playing with people less than half my age. We have a great time.

What's fun is handing a youngster a disc to try that's older than they are. "Here, try this. It's OOP because I bought this before you were born."

 

[swhite]

I've run into a lot of these scenarios, and I've been keeping a box of old discs in my car to hand to noobs that genuinely seem interested but, I'm running out of mids and have no putters left!

Keller, if you would pm me your mailing address I would be willing to send you some mids and putters, because what you are doing is something I would like to support.

 

[DiscFifty]

Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.

 

[ru4por]

Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.

They are likely playing the age protected divisions, which are Advanced divisions and there is no ratings cap. (unless they are categorized as pro w/having taken cash.....I think). Around here, even the MA60 can field a handful of guys with 900+ ratings or so. I guess if you are looking for a more flattened ratings competition, play AM3. I feel your pain though.

 

[Jukeshoe]

When I was in college I came across some ancient Latin that translated as: "Kids today, no respect! Things was different when I was their age!" This has literally been going on for thousands of years. Every generation sees the next one as deficient in some way.

But: disc golf brings generations together with something they have in common. I often end up playing with people less than half my age. We have a great time.

The nominative plural subject does not agree with the singular past tense verb conjugation. :| :|

 

[Putt for D'oh]

Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.

Couldn't this question be flipped right back around and if you are concerned with ratings maybe age protected division isn't right, but ratings protected is the person that should be changing divisions should be moving to Rec?

I could see myself making the jump to Pro40+ at some point but I would have to get my game much more consistent. It seems in reach but honestly? i would put that closer to 955 rating than 935 as a jumping point.

 

[DiscFifty]

Couldn't this question be flipped right back around and if you are concerned with ratings maybe age protected division isn't right, but ratings protected is the person that should be changing divisions should be moving to Rec

Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.

 

[Guurn]

Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.

I just play the division I am feeling that day. If it is Master Pro, Open or Grandmaster so be it. Usually I just look for the division with the most people and play that. Around here it's usually the Masters division in leagues.

 

[Putt for D'oh]

Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.

Maybe its just different areas. I don't think I ever responded to your thread that had this same idea as a topic, but at what point does someone deserve to win? When is someone challenging themselves and when is someone just playing in a division too far above them?

I have been moving up in ratings. I don't play a lot of tournaments, maybe if I did I would get better and my rating would show it... or maybe I'd move down in rating a bit? I don't know but at 930 rated locally playing in AM40 I am competing with my peers. Sure there are a few guys that are waaaay below but we have 6 or 8 who COULD win and are rated above 915. One guy in the area I think is looking for points to AM worlds is playing Advanced but I would have no worry with him being in my division. I'd take it as a challenge to beat him but I would have to play great.

I understand the pressure on someone when they win AM3 they should move up to AM2 and win and move up to AM1 even if their rating does not show it, but there is a difference between dominating a field you don't belong in and winning because you played well at your level. I would like to play in a division I feel I have a chance of winning AND ability to compete with others.

Based on my never winning a sanctioned event in AM40 in my area then I think i'm in the right spot even if there are a few people who also choose to play AM40 that have no chance. Their level isn't really my concern when I AM competing with peers and I currently have no chance at a win in AM1 or Pro40. That says to me I am where I belong and those who are playing AM40 but can't compete with the guys placing 1 thru 6 or 8 but also can't place in AM1 or Pro40 are fine if they just want to play with others their age but if they have an issue and feel we are too good for this division, those guys should move down to ratings protected and play Am3.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

FWIW Im happy to play in masters now that I'm old enough.. The year I won advanced men I shot the best two rounds of my life at the local course, back to back. Forced to move up to Open even though my score wouldn't have won it. I played advanced everywhere but the home course. Didn't win anything else in that division since I don't have the distance.

Did win Masters in Cortes tied score with open for the first time last year, happy to have the option to play either, I suppose for woods courses I could move up a division but I rarely place anywhere else... point is I try to do what's fair. I hope other people do too, I'm not big on sandbaggers but I do love the occasional carrot.

(We don't have multiple divisions just advanced, am, masters, open...FTR)

 

[Plastic Thunder]

This thread reminds me of an event on the ice a few years back. I'm a defenseman, and I was officiating, running clinics a bit at the time so I spent 6 nights a week on the ice. This night it was Beer "B" League. Pretty good players, mostly young, skill and speed a move average. I was having a good night, couple of points, my shot was on from the point, and then about half way through the second period I drew a 2 minute minor on some trumped up checking call where I rubbed someone just a bit too hard. So as I am headed to the penalty box really slowly because I got caught on a long shift, I get cross checked from behind and I said to the second guy "what's that all about?" He said, "we can catch you when you're skating", I laughed and said, "really can't keep up with a guy in his fifties?" The guy was 28.

 

[biscoe]

Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.

...or they just prefer to play with players of a similar age group for a more pleasant day. Not everyone's motivation for playing is the same- this manifests itself more than anywhere else in the age based divisions.