Billy Goat Rough
Pros: Nice park
lots of wildlife
first half is shaded
some helpful signs
open field was mowed
offers a good challenge for very technical play.
Cons: not beginner friendly
some tee signs are not descriptive
would be dangerous if wet
first few holes are really only suited for goats due to the steep angles and loose rocks.
Other Thoughts: 2 seems like a low rating but the truth is despite it's character, some elements of the course make it difficult to play. The first few holes required a lot of caution. You must watch your footing. the holes are not very long but the slopes and trees are aggressive and the lines are small. I didn't mind playing the course but I wouldn't bring any non dg friends there to learn. My wife (a good lefty) and i played it blind and shot +5 and +4. 1 was fine. 2 was brutal. 3 was a blind downhill toss. 4 was was a tough uphill toss with minimal lines. These holes basically required carefully placed layups. 5-8 were easy pars, birdies once you know the basket placements. 9 was an odd hole. I guess you throw over the sign that tells you to use the bridge. The course was very lefty friendly, or righty sidearm. Even well placed shots could roll away at times. And we spent too much time looking for discs that hit a tree and rebounded down a hill. I have also played Kircher in Eureka which is the opposite of this course. Better for beginners, very flat, faster play.
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Very interesting course, no one else was playing so we had the place to ourselves. Holes are a good balance for challenging/distance, especially for a beginner.
Cons: Tees, forget about it. Also some of the holes you will be walking perpendicular to a ridge, so you are constantly throwing along a slope that is just shy of being uncomfortable to walk on.
0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The course plays through a hilly multi-use park, but in an area without much interference from other park uses. Half of the holes are in tight woods with narrow fairways and plenty of punishment if you get off the fairways. The other half of the holes play out in the open with mowed fairways through taller grass rough. Both sections of the course have great use of elevation, nearly every hole has enough up or down to keep things interesting, and makes for some tricky greens with roll-aways possible.
There is a nice variety of hole shapes for a 9 hole course, I was glad I carried my full bag. There is some distance, along with a couple shorter reachable holes for variety. There are basic tee signs and next tee signs where necessary, so it's not too difficult to follow the course.
Cons: The tees are terrible. They are natural and marked with painted rocks that can easily be moved. Some were unclear where they were, the second set of tees was basically invisible unless you know where to look. The pads were often slanted and rutted out, making for pretty poor footing on drives. The baskets are showing their age and don't catch all that well.
A few holes play near walking paths, we had a couple people come around blind corners as we were throwing so keep an eye out. There are some long walks here, and the course doesn't end at the parking lot, so it feels like you do as much walking between holes as you do on the actual course. The long grass rough on some of the middle holes is not my favorite obstacle, especially on blind shots where it's hard to get an exact mark of where your disc went in.
Other Thoughts: This is a fun 9 hole course and surprised me with how much variety there is. The elevation is used very well to make some fun downhill shots and tough uphill ones too. Beginners will probably find this one a little tough and punishing. More experienced players will find some good challenges here, and will need to hit some different lines through the woods to score well. This one isn't a must play, but it's worth a stop if you're in the area.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: challenging technical, woody,elevation changes
Cons: can be a muddy mess at times , no teepads
Other Thoughts: this seems to be the least liked course in the st.louis area but its still a classic in my opinion many local golfers would not have a shot style or two with out getting there ass kicked here at some time
2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Diamond in the Rough
Pros: Some challenging shots on some very steep hills. Hole one is a dogleg left around a steep hill. Don't miss right and you better have a flat landing or you are at the bottom of the hill. The deer are all over and they will watch you miss putts and secretly laugh at your lame attempts. Very tough tight shots combined with a couple of wide open shots. This could be a fantastic 18 hole course with the right work. Scenery is just fantastic.
Cons: No tee boxes. No signs. No cards with maps. You just have to search out the next hole. Some are easy to find, some are darn near impossible like #8. Some moderate hiking skills are required but there isn't a lot of up and down traversing.
Other Thoughts: Great park but lots of runners and walkers using the trails. Lukas Liquors is just down the road 5 minutes away and they have the best selection of beer and wine in the St. Louis area.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 3 Not
Much room for improvement
Pros: Cool layout. The fact that most of the pins are set on slopes and nearly all of the pins aren't visible from the tee makes shot selection/control very important. This is definately NOT a huck-it-and-hope-for-a-good-lie course.
Good signs to point you towards the next tee.
The series of signs that points DG'ers from the park entrance to the parking area right by the first tee is the best i've seen in the StL area, but they could use one or two more.
Cons: Tee signs to show you where the pin is are crap.
Hole 3's basket broken.
Newbies will get confused finding their way from 4 to 5, then finding the pin for 5.
No established par markings on the tee signs.
Tee pad markers consist of painted 5-lb concrete blocks that aren't anchored to anything and as such can be moved at a whim. That makes the already fairly useless tee signs (and yardage measurements) even more worthless.
Other Thoughts: Even though it is only a 9-hole course, this park has great potential if someone with course design knowledge and/or someone with a few $1000 burning a hole in their pockets would jump in.
The deer that live in the park are either fearless or very hungry. Never got so close to a deer until i made my trip to Bluebird. (Walking from the pin for 8 to the tee for 9)
5 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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