St. John, MO 
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Uploaded By: fairweather_fan Hole #11 (Taken 4/2009)
3 / 277ft. Par / Distance:
Hole #11 Tee (basket placements are straight ahead in pic; option to go left or right of stand of trees in center of pic)

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1    9/5/2010   9/9/2010
Review By: notapro
Played: 447  Reviewed: 280  Exp: 12.8 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a hilly park with lots of mature trees. Good use of the available space to maximize hole length and variety.
- Almost every hole has a large number of high canopy trees to avoid off the tee and through the fairways, which adds significant challenge and demands good accuracy. There are also many spots with extremely dense rough that must be avoided at all costs. This provides a large number of pretty well protected baskets, so nearly every shot has some tree or forested area to contend with.
- Elevation changes are a factor on many holes, both through the fairway and near the baskets. Many long, sloping fairways add to the challenge and the overall fun factor. There are some longer uphill and downhill bomber holes to let it rip, a pretty good mix overall. The sloped greens add even more challenge to already protected baskets.
- Other hazards include a very small creek on a few holes, not really a major factor but still something to watch out for.
- The alternate pin positions add pretty significant length and challenge on many holes. I can see why this park is qualified to host top-tier events, with downright nasty pin placements (in a good way, of course).
- Good tees and baskets.
Cons: - The terrain is pretty consistent throughout the entire park, so you better get used to lots of trees and thick rough. From the start to the finish, not much changes in terms of the scenery.
- There are holes that have an obvious lane to the basket, but most of the time it is just a matter of avoiding trees and the rough. Line shaping is definitely key, but there are usually many different lines that can be taken. So, there aren't too many holes that require a specific type of shot.
- Tee signs are very basic - a list of the different positions and distances, with a bolt to signify the current placement. Bolts were sometimes in the wrong hole, or missing altogether, which could be frustrating the first time through. Course can be tricky to navigate the first time, make sure to get a scorecard or study the map.
Other Thoughts: - A very solid course that uses the hilly terrain to its full potential. Lots of trees and other hazards to avoid along the way, with some protected baskets and fast greens. Personally, I really liked the layout and was very pleased with the variety of holes. Even though the land and obstacles are pretty uniform throughout the park, each hole had its own challenge and feel. I felt it definitely rewarded accuracy over length, though a combination of both can lead to some pretty low scores.
- A good course for all skill levels, especially with the different pin positions.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.


5+    6/13/2010   6/17/2010
Played: 11  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 9.2 Years
This review was updated on 6/24/2010
3 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: a great place to learn how unforgiving trees can be.keep it low and straight and you should be fine.
Cons: it's hard. can be muddy sometimes and the mosquitos will eat you up! bring bug spray!
Other Thoughts: my home course and my favorite in the city. for those of you saying you can't find the next tee look on the ground next to the hole there is a brick with an arrow pointing to the next tee.

3 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 If you have not you must

5+    6/9/2010   6/9/2010
Review By: green_hornet915
Played: 100  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 6.2 Years
This review was updated on 1/13/2012
1 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: I am updating my review the pros for this course are I think. The variable pin placement, the cleanliness of the park, the course gets harder on the back nine,there is almost always regulars out playing.
Cons: I have ran into some cons to the course. Trees trees trees. Lol Some of the yardages are not marked plainly. For a new person coming in to play the course will be a bit confused I have been a guide on two different occasions but once played it is very easy to find your way
Other Thoughts: A must play if you are in or close to St louis any Tuesday there is a group that plays here if you are looking for a game you will be able to find one for sure.

1 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Best par 3 in St. LOuis

5+    5/21/2010   5/21/2010
Review By: discoholic
Played: 92  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 8 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a really fun course. Snake through the trees, or try to find an alternate approach. Elevation change and lots of trees make all holes a challenge. Most holes offer a chance for birdie, but all holes can easily be a bogey. Even if you don't have a big arm you can still post it up on #5's 350' downhill bomb. If you do have a big arm try to post it up on #14's open 425'. #3 is probably my favorite. It is a 300' downhill shot with lots of trees. You can find a line backhand or forehand. Watch out for #7 and #12, par will feel like a bird. You will use all of your shots and all of your disks on this course.

This is one of the courses that is home to The St. Louis Open. There are 4' x 10' concrete tee pads, with 3 different pin placements. Amenities include; benches at every hole, a practice basket, toilets and drinking fountain at the 1st tee / 10th tee, and bbq grills at the pavilion.
Cons: There are only 2 problems. It is muddy in the spring. However, The St. Louis Disc Golf Club has done work to redirect the runoff water. It is also hard to navigate for the first time player. Get a score card from the kiosk at the 1st tee.
Other Thoughts: They have a league on Monday night. I don't know if they close the course or not.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Tight, technical with elevation and length

1    3/26/2010   3/27/2010
Review By: Dwiggy444
Played: 67  Reviewed: 14  Exp: 9.2 Years
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course has a little bit of everything - shorter technical holes, long uphill holes, and everything in between. As stated in other reviews, hole 12 is an excellent, tight and difficult hole, but I don't think it's the hardest hole on the course. There are just so many good holes here - it's hard to pick a favorite. And you'll probably find the course different every time you play it because there are 3 pin placements for every hole. The park is also easy to find and pretty clean for a neighborhood park.
Cons: Some of the holes on the front 9 can get a little soggy aftr a rain, but the club is currently installing drainage tiles to fix that. It's an older park, so the grass is kinda beaten down, which can make for muddy conditions at times.
Other Thoughts: I highly recommend this course if you are in the St. Louis area!!

3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 nice, challenging city park

5+    11/21/2009   11/25/2009
Review By: hognosesucker
Played: 414  Reviewed: 86  Exp: 17.1 Years
This review was updated on 11/26/2009
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -endicott has a lot of nice amenities such as 4x10 concrete tees, seasonal bathrooms, a nice kiosk w/scorecards, ample parking, and a large shelter.
-the park has great uses of elevation, not only uphill and downhill shots, but a lot of fall away greens too, giving some of the flatter holes more character.
-although the park is a city park, it has enormous amounts of trees and large honeysuckle-type bushes, which allows the holes to be shaped in such a way that there is a lot of shot variety, a lot of straight shots but also r-->l and l-->r
-holes 7 and 12 are great holes. 7 has a tight fairway for the first 300 then up a steep hill to an elevated green, threes are a premium here, 12 is the blairwitch hole...400', S tunnel shot ending in a protected green, 3 is also a good score. The course is worth checking out just for these holes if nothing else.
-3 pin placements that are moved regularly and really vary the shots.
-a couple mando holes.
-a nice practice basket setup with a spiraling set of blocks at different distances from 8' to 50'
Cons: -I have the same beef with the course signs here that I have with all STL courses...they stink. They have the A, B, C placement distances and a bolt by the current placement, but no accompanying map, it hurts the person who hasn't played there before as they have to walk about half the holes before shooting.
-holes 3-7 are all super soggy along the draw during spring and fall. There has been some effort to alleviate this but it is still bad.
-Navigation can be a bit hairy, bring a course map.
Other Thoughts: This course is great. It really has a nice secluded feel even though it is in the city and right on an interstate.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 Great Fun

1    9/16/2009   9/18/2009
Review By: bogeybogey
Played: 25  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 7.1 Years
This review was updated on 9/23/2009
3 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: wonderful course very hilly in some parts, a few open up, but for the most part the majority of the shots are in and out of trees, accuracy is a must off the tee, 12, is crazy fun a tunnel shot, easy to find any disc going left or right. Print a map off on the links tab on this page it helped my first time..and good luck finding the number 7 basket a really tough par 3.
Cons: parking is near 18 not 1
Other Thoughts: great park always busy with plenty of DG's. There is a practice cage near the tee pad for 15 on your way to 1. Use that instead of 18.

3 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Very nice but challenging

2-4    7/24/2009   8/15/2009
Review By: klenglfr
Played: 17  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 11 Years
2 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: Nice park in a not too bad of a neighborhood. Excellent variety of shots. Multiple pin placements and signs have bolts next to the one it is at.
Cons: Some holes are just a little too hard. If you are a beginner you will be taking a LOT of shots
Other Thoughts: This course is very challenging and takes a lot of patience and concentration. Park by tennis courts and walk to the big pavilion for first tee. Course ends back at the lot.

2 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Lots of Lost discs

5+    8/1/2009   8/7/2009
Review By: CrimsonRavyn
Played: 4  Reviewed: 4
5 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: This course gives a great amount of challenge to everyone. They move the baskets every couple weeks, which does mean that the course does change. The baskets have three different placements, A (am), B (advance am), and C (pro). Since putting in the three pin placements the course have never been all A, or B, or C. Course layout is nice with a lot of trees, creeks, and hills.
Hole 1 is next to the pavillion and the basket is down the hill. This is one of the easier holes, yet it is still tree ridden. Hole 2 is back up the hill never the tee for 1. This normally takes 3-5 shots due to the hill and trees. Hole 3 is near the road and the basket is down the hill towards to creek. The tree in front of the tee can bee a difficult one to decide what to do at, left or right. I have seen people go both ways, but to the right work better for many of them. There are also a few baskets down there occationally, so if you feel a safe game is in order, shot down the hill and then determine which basket is the correct one. Hole 4 is across the creek. Watch out because if it has rained for a couple days the creek can get high and cause lots of mud. 4 does have two pin placements near the creek, up the hill, near the large tree. The other pin placement is up the hill and in a grove of trees to the right slightly. This one can be hard to see at certain times of the day due to the sun. This hole is one of the easier ones on this course, but it can be challenging due to the creek and trees. Hole 5 is down the road to the right from the basket for 4. The basket is located down near the group of trees. If you cannot see it is further down and hidden by the trees, or it is lcated past the trees to the right. Do watch out, if your disc goes into one of the yards it could be a lost cause due to large disc eating dogs. Hole 6's tee is back down near hole 4's tee, near the creek. This hole is difficult no matter where the basket is. Sometimes you can see the basket and other times you can't, but it tends to be located near the edge of the creek and away from hole 4. The trees along the creek do eat discs, so try to not throw into them. Once again if it has rained recently this hole could be flooded. Hole 7 is back across the creek, near the tee for 2. This hole is difficult. When shooting out there are two trees near the tee, a small clearing past them, and then lots of woods. The basket is down though the trees, but the first trees can ruin this hole adding an extra shot. If the basket cannot be seen once you are down the wood, it is located up a steep hill and cannot be seen. I suggest a tomahauk to get up the hill. Hole 8 is where many stop for a break, the tee is though the woods (down the hill and thought the woods if the basket for 7 is up the hill). It runs next to hole 7, so watch your head. The basket is located though the trees, there is a nice path but it is narrow, and out into the field. The hole can be near the tee for 9, or 2, or near the basket for 3, depending where pin it is located at. Hole 9's tee is up the hill from hole 2's tee. The basket is located up the hill near the baseball diamond. This hole has lots of tree, but you can see lots of paths though them. Hole 10's tee is near hole 9's basket, so once again watch your head. The basket is located through the trees near the baseball diamond and to the left. You should be able to see the tee for 14 here, the basket will be to the left. Hole 11 is back down the hill near the tee for 9. The basket is located through the two sets of trees (sometimes it is easier to go around to the right of the trees), and deeper into the woods. The basket does move, but the pins are close to each other.
Hole 12 is back into the woods. You can see the basket for 7 if it is in the pin on top of the hill. When you come out of the wood from hole 11, watch your head, becasue the tee is to the left and the basket is to the right. The basket from the tee is located down through the dense forest (trees and brush) and slightly to the right at the very end. To get to hole 13, go thought the woods and up the hill. Once you have found the tee, the basket will be straight and toward the left at the end. Watch out because the disc gods will keep your disc at this hole if you go into the woods. This hole has a great deal of difficultly, so beware.
Hole 14 is dangerous to get to, so watch your head. You have to go back down hole 13 part of the way and then up the hill. The tee is located on the edge of a baseball diamond, but it is rare to see anyone playing on this baseball diamond. The basket is located down the field (follow the tree line), and into the woods at the other end of the field. You can see another basket from the tee and the field this is a practice basket for putting and is near the playground. From the basket for 14 go towards to playground/sand volleyball pit. Hole 15 tee is near the valleyball pit. When walking from 14 look down the hill and into the woods, you should be able to see the basket for 15 down in one of the tree lined coves. Make sure to do this, or you may not know where to shoot. 15 has tree near the tee and one tree that many people have hit, the tree is scared from the discs hitting it. Hole 16 is located though the woods to the right of 15's basket. From the tee the basket can be several places. I suggest shooting out though the large tree and the tree line. You will have to shoot up the hill and the basket could be right there, but it can also be located down across the walking path. You can yell fore, but most non-golfers ignore the warning. Hole 17 is down next to the edge of the walking path and the creek. The basket located down the creek, but on the other side of the creek. There is a concrete turtle with no head at the tree line that scares most people that don't know it is there. The bridge across the creek to between a couple bushes. Once across the bridge look along the tree line for the basket. It could be near the top of the hill, or the bottom near the creek. This is a difficult hole becasue of the tree and not being able to see the basket. Hole 18 is up the hill for 17's basket and in a little alcove. You can see interstate 170 from the tee. the basket is located down near the parking lot and/or edge of the creek and/or tennis courts. This hole can be difficult if thrown wrong. The tree branch in front of the tee can be a problem along with all the trees near the basket. This is an epic hole because by this time you have gone up and down lots of hills and played in alot of trees lines and filled passages.
Cons: Holes 3, 4, 6, 7 and 17 do flood sometimes when there has been rain for a couple of days.
Hole 7 does have a pin placement up on top of a steep hill that is dangerous to go back down to get to hole 8.
Holes 12, 13, 14, and 15 have a large hazzard of losing discs. I have seen a friend launch his disc out on 13 or maybe it was 14 into the near by interstate, but not many people can get a disc to go that far.
If you end up in the woods look up also, because the tree gods like to keep discs.
Other Thoughts: I play this course often and it does tend to get a bit crowded on nice days with large groups. I suggest playing early in the morning before the crowds show up. A lot of large group also reserve the pavillion near the playground and hole one, so it can be loud.

5 of 11 people found this review helpful.

 nothing special

1    7/26/2009   7/29/2009
Review By: Adgeri
Played: 6  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 7.9 Years
1 Helpful / 5 Not
Pros: A number of challenging uphill shots and a lot of challenging trees to avoid.
Cons: The course is very compact which limits hole lengths and boundaries on a number of occasions. Finding your way to the next hole is difficult if you don't know where your going. Information about the course isn't available. Many boxes have some sort of obstacle directly in front of the them.
Other Thoughts: There wasn't much special about this course but it's still disc golf!

1 of 6 people found this review helpful.

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