Shameless Course Bagging in WY
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: If you are driving along I80 (or like me visiting family at FE Warren) this is basically your only chance at bagging a decent course in WY. I mean look at the map. There are probably less than 20 courses in WY. This is a Houck designed course... and that automatically earns a half star.
Given that this is such a small plot of land, I dont see anything that could be done differently on the property.
This course plays along a "dry creek". The creek, however, was not so dry when i played it... and my guess is that this is the norm. The little bit of elevation available here was used properly.
The fun factor for me was pretty low for most of the holes on the course. I dont say that in a condescending way. This is mostly a mix of high wind, high weeds on the edge of the fairways, OB pretty much everywhere. Basically, there are chances around every corner to lose your disc. This actually adds to the difficulty factor (and dare i say butt pucker).
I was actually kind of interested to see 3 bonus holes after hole 17. These were actually pretty interesting holes.
I guess the last thing worth noting for me, was that the elevation had really interesting effects on the throws to me.
Hole 3 (i believe) was definitely the star of the course.
Cons: The major con to me was the upkeep of this place. It sounds like i played it on a good day. However, i cant imagine that this is how John envisioned the maintenance to go. For instance, hole 1 was basically a straight throw, but over a grove of willow trees? Had to walk to the basket basically to figure out where i was throwing. Same thing on hole 2. Why not just cut a few of those tree bush things so you can see the target?
Other Thoughts: Again... i would echo that this is a 2.75. Was really glad to bag WY in my quest to 50 states played. I would like to thank the locals for continuing to work on this course, and giving me a course to play!
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Short but Challenging
Pros: (This course has gone through a major redesign within the past three years (I think). The previous reviews are pertinent but the specifics of particular holes may have changed since their reviews were penned.)
I moved to Cheyenne 15 months ago from Charlotte, NC where we're spoiled with some of the best disc golf courses in the country. I've been playing for ~17 years, I've also lived/played in California, and taken two cross-country road trips where I based my routes around playing quality courses in each state I passed through.
Dry Creek is the only course worth playing in Cheyenne in my opinion and therefore it has become my home course. I've played it close to 40 times, and I've grown to appreciate it. If you base your opinion solely on the pictures and hole distances you may think this course will be a pushover, but it is certainly not. Out-of-bounds is plentiful on this course and the constant wind we experience in Wyoming alters shots and makes it difficult to avoid. I'm finally starting to get used to the wind (and the 6,000+ ft. elevation), but adjusting to these conditions can be a struggle.
Here are my thoughts:
-Dry Creek is packed in pretty tight on a small piece of land. Once you get used to it, it flows pretty nicely. Given what they had to work with, I don't think it could've been laid out much better.
-As the name suggests, the course runs along a creek, however it is never dry. This adds a lot of challenge to this course if you play it the way it was designed to be played. That is, crossing a creek, sidewalk, or road is out of bounds unless the pin is on the other side (with the exception of creek-crossing-based OB on hole 3). Many of the pins are located close to this creek adding a certain degree of risk/reward on drives AND putts. Additionally, the underbrush that grows along the creek in places can prove difficult to get out of if you find yourself in it.
-Pretty good signage at all of the tees.
-Water comes into play again on hole #12 where there is a pond that you can throw around and comfortably par, or you can throw over to have a look at birdie. Risk/reward makes things interesting.
-There's a mando on hole 9 & a double mando on hole 18 adding to the challenge.
-The course designers have made good use of what little difference in elevation there is on this piece of land. Having said that, there aren't any uphill drives.
-There is plenty of open space on this course where you can grip and rip, but they've done a good job of strategically using the trees they have. Several baskets are tucked away behind or very close to trees. Others are used to slightly crowd the tee-box.
-I list this as a con also, but the wind is always going to make you second-guess your shot/disc selection, adding to the (mental) challenge of this game.
Cons: -Course maintenance is an issue. This past spring they waited wayyyy too long to mow the grass for the first time. The weeds had literally grown up through the baskets and beyond. Imagine trying to play in a field with grass up to your elbows...yeah. Also, there are several holes where the greens need to be cleaned up. On some holes there are branches so close/low it makes putting impossible. If you have to duck under branches within 20 feet of the pin, I think it's time to do some trimming. On one hole there's a shoulder-level branch within 3 feet of the basket. Also, on a couple holes that were moved mid-season, the parks & rec people continued to mow the course, but didn't mow the new greens.
-This course can be confusing for people who aren't familiar with the layout. You have to cross a road after #3 and then again after #13. There's no markings on the baskets to guide you to the next tee. Use the map provided on DGCourseReview to find your way (there may be a map posted at the kiosk by hole 1, but I'm not sure of this). Also, there isn't any indication on the tee-signs which pin placement is being used. This isn't a big issue as this course is open and most pins are visible from the tee but there were times when I was still learning the course and also after they switched pin positions for the first time when I threw to the wrong basket.
-This course is ALWAYS windy. Some days it's only 10-15 mph, but other days it's 25-30+ mph which makes it very hard to have an enjoyable round.
-This course is located in a flood plain and therefore it has drainage issues. The fairway/green on 6 and the ground around the tee-boxes on 7 & 16 are pretty much soggy year-round. Other areas are wet and mucky often. Appropriate footwear is advised.
-I've spent a lot of time searching for discs in thick grass and underbrush. Its my own fault for missing the fairways, but beware of this! Keep an eye on your disc and pay attention to where it lands.
-Hole 8 plays over a walking path.
-The greens on some holes are very close to the tees on other holes. In fact, when hole 16's pin is in its longest position, you have to throw across 17's fairway to reach it. This course doesn't see much traffic so this is rarely an issue.
-I wish there were some doglegs. There aren't any. The fairways are pretty straight and mostly open with only slight variations.
Other Thoughts: Like I said, this course has grown on me. I'm generously giving Dry Creek a 3-disc rating because I can't give it the 2.75 I think it deserves. The long grass and unkempt greens really bother me. There are only so many playable months in Wyoming due to the cold and snowy winters, let's keep the course playable as many of those warm months as possible!
Memorable holes are: 3, 8, 12, 17 long, & 18.
There aren't many courses in Wyoming in the first place so this is one of the best (and honestly it's probably THE best excluding three or four courses in the northwest corner of the state).
If you're driving through on the I-80 corridor and you want to play a course in Wyoming, this is it. Trust me!
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0 Helpful / 3 Not
Best course in town
Pros: 1. 18-hole course. Air Force base course is only other 18-holer in town. Need a pass to get on base to play that one though.
2. Hole #1 is my favorite. It is very aceable.
3. Easily navigable.
Cons: 1. Kinda muddy sometimes esp on back 9. Forget about playing after a heavy rain.
2. Horse manure near hole #15 usually.
3. One hole has a big orange net in front of tee box. Kinda annoying but park is trying to get a tree to grow there.
Other Thoughts: Dry creek isn't usually dry. A stream flows through and affects a few of the holes.
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6 Helpful / 0 Not
WInd and Water
Pros: This 18 hole course is built along a creek and takes great advantage of the vegetation growing along the creek, and the creek itself. Given the small width of the creek, I was surprised at how many holes brought the water into play.
Nice range of hole lengths from 200' out to about 600'.
Two tees for each hole with concrete for the white tee and a natural red tee. The are 2-5 pin locations available for each hole as well and the pin positions are far enough apart to give different looks to the holes.
Great use of the trees and brush along the creek to impact the line to the basket. Hole 4 requires a straight drive to stay out of the trees on the right and the creek on the left. Hole 5 actually crosses the creek and requires that you hit a gap in the trees to get over safely. If you end up in the creekside brush you may be limited to just pitching back out.
Hole 15 is a nice challenge as the basket is close to the bank on the far side of a pond. You have the choice of laying up right, laying up left, or going directly for the basket at about 300'. Even with a layup the basket is so tight to the pond that your approach will likely end up well past the pin.
Course flow is decent, but having the map helped me know which way to look in a few spots.
Cons: Little elevation change along the course.
Navigation can get a little confusing, especially in the area of Holes 10, 11, and 12. The course has apparently been changed since the pads were poured, and the pads for Holes 10 and 11 have been swapped. But the original hole numbers are still cast into the pads, so it is confusing for first-timers. There is a new pad poured for Hole 12 that is up in a corner and a little off the beaten path.
Many of the alternate pads are just places in the dirt, so they we uneven and a little muddy when we played.
The 4x4 post at each tee pads gives a distance, but depending on which location the basket is in that distance could be significantly off.
Other Thoughts: I played three of the courses in Cheyenne (missed the AFB) and found this to be the best of the lot. Good variety of hole lengths and lines, use of the creek and the ever-present wind make this a challenging course.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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The Creek Wasn't so Dry...
Pros: -Concrete tee-pads on all of the holes except we couldn't find a concrete on for hole 13.
-Most of the holes feature both shorter tees and long tees
-Good variety of distances on the course. There were some short ace runs and some holes that were close to 500 or 600 feet, with a good variety in between.
-I really enjoyed hole 6 and thought it was a fun well-thought out hole that required some good shot placement to score well.
-The majority of holes have a well-defined fairway and some holes will really punish you for going off of the fairway.
-Baskets are in good shape and catch well. They are also pretty easy to see since they are red.
-Multiple pin positions on all of the holes
-Water comes into play on several holes. (Quite a few holes feature the creek, while hole 15 has a pond on it).
-Good use of the available obstacles that the course has. The course requires some accuracy, different shots and on some holes placement to score well.
-The course made pretty good use of the little elevation it had available.
-There are some trashcans placed throughout the course
Cons: -There are no tee-signs on the course. It was annoying because on some of the longer holes, you have to walk up the fairway to see the basket or get a good feel for how the holes plays. Some of the posts that say the hole number were not in good shape. A few holes were missing the posts that stated the hole number and distance.
-The shorter tees on each hole only had dirt tee-pads.
-Water on the course was very murky, especially the pond on hole 15. If you throw a disc into the pond, it will be very difficult to retrieve.
-Course can be a little hard to navigate the first time you play it. There are baskets and tee-pads going in several different directions at some spots and you will spend a little time figuring out which basket to throw to and where the next tee is. After hole 10, it got even harder to navigate as a few of the holes didn't even have their hole number marked, they were just unmarked concrete tee-pads.
-Other than hole 15, the last 6 holes seemed quite bland and not as interesting as the rest of the course. Hole 13 was terrible. It was a straight slightly downhill, short shot that was really boring.
-If you park near the first tee-pad, you have to walk back across the fairway for hole 1 to get back to your car.
-Parts of the course got really muddy and wet.
-Some holes played close to sidewalks or roads.
Other Thoughts: I quite enjoyed the first 12 holes, but started to lose interest on the final 6 holes. Of all of the courses in Cheyenne, I feel that this is the most complete course, even though I like some of the holes at FE Warren a little better. It's a solid course that is worth a stop, if you are in the area.
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Other Thoughts: I just played this course this summer, and I had a great time; I also closed out with two 2's on 17 and 18 including a near skip ace on 17 where it bounced up and hit the basket. I'm rating it a little lower (from a critic's point of view) compared to how much I enjoyed the course. A couple drawbacks for a first timer (especially) is that the course is so compact that you occasionally end up aiming at the wrong pins. This is something that you can learn the 2nd time around, but navigation was a bit tricky the 1st time. In general I like how the course is laid out, but it still needs a bit of polish, e.g., hole diagrams, signs pointing you to the next tee, all of the tees paved (some are currently). Maybe this one doesn't have to be like other "nice" courses with these amenities, though, because I really enjoyed playing this compact casual, yet challenging, course. And though I didn't personally get any discs wet, the water could be a major factor.
3 Helpful / 1 Not
A fun course. Best in Cheyenne
Pros: A really fun course with some great pin placements. It is rarely an open shot that you can just go for. Trees, creeks, and bushes are always around.
Good mix of short shots, and one's that you can stretch your arm on.
The use of water is second to none. Rarely are you not throwing over/around/before water.
Great tee pads. Only one is an addition to sidewalk.
Fairways are mowed to increase skips and make it easier to figure out where you are going.
A few level changes, but not too many.
Cons: Signage is either missing, or damaged. The course is oddly maintained. Trash is prevalent, but the rest looks great.
Baskets are a little lower than usual.
Some of the foliage, brush, and grass is very mean. Tore my legs up.
Other Thoughts: It might be a little frustrating for a newer player due to the technical nature of the putting, the constant presence of water, and the usual lack of conventional drives.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Not a Dry Creek
Pros: -Cement tees which are marked by a post with distance and hole # on them.
-Creek and some trees provide challenge.
-The hole length was pretty varied, I imagine it could be even better depending on the pin location. There are a few ace holes, especially early, but there are some bombers too.
-This course wasn't busy even though I was there at peak time. Just the sketchy chuckers (see below) and a few nice gentlemen who let me play through.
-Houck used the land well.
Cons: -There are multiple pin positions but no map and the distances on the tee are only for one of the positions. Hole 3 said 400+ feet and I easily got a 2. It was more like 250. There are also often multiple baskets in the same spot and blind baskets so you don't always know where you were throwing. If you can get a map, do it!
-This creek was not dry and was spilling out onto the course. It was hard to cross the bridges without getting wet.
-What wasn't wet was covered in this awful silty stuff that got all over everything. Bring a towel.
-You could lose a disc in that creek. Or in the tall weeds. Or in the pond later in the round.
-It could be very windy here, and is most of the time.
-There were some sketchy chuckers sitting around the course. I don't know if they were actually playing or just sitting there smoking. They made me not want to throw the blind holes across the stream where I had to walk awhile to get to my disc.
-No real amenities at all. There is a parking loto and I think there was a map before it was vandalized.
Other Thoughts: This is simply one of those courses where poor land combined with nature and sketchy characters can ruin a course experience. I think John Houck used the land well for what he had to work with but the flat, overgrown floodplain just isn't the ideal place for a disc golf course. I could see the potential fun factor here but on the day I played, it wasn't there. I will be back to play again and see if I enjoy it more. I encourage you to stop by and see for yourself.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun course offering some good challenges
Pros: This course offers great variety with a great use of obstacles. The course is built around a small flowing creek and a small lake of which one of the 2 comes into play on most holes. The creek is not deep enough to eat your discs and retrieval is possible if you do end up in the creek. Of the 2 water hazards it plays more often.
The lake makes for a great marque hole (15). It is a great risk reward hole (it looks more likely to eat your disc than the creek).
I am also a big fan of hole 12 which I think is new. Its a downward look to the hole and has a few trees which once fully grown will make for a great hole design.
Overall the course is fair and balanced. It is a good fun option.
Cons: I don't see the point behind the amateur tees. Most only cut about 15 feet off the hole and really don't change the look of the hole to make it any easier, they are not padded (dirt only).
5 is a partially blind drive. It is not the hole which is clearly visible to the tee pad at the beginning (its actually 18).
13 and 14 are disappointing given the rest of the course. They are both wide open slightly slopped holes with no obstacles and not any significant amount of length.
Other Thoughts: There are a few redesign issues at the time I played I figure they will be worked out in short order. Some of the tee boxes are mismarked ( and if you've never played it before 9, 10, 11 area) the redesign has made these holes more cleanly ordered so playing the logical hole rather than the marked hole (the hole numbers are marked into the concrete on some holes) is going to get you to the right place. The area around the course had me believing I was in the wrong place (its in a neighborhood) but sure enough the coordinates were right on the money.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Dry Creek DGC
Pros: 1) good use of trees and well protected baskets on most holes
2) two sets of tees
3) water comes into play, and is actually an obstical, on some holes
4) good variation of distances and design
Cons: 1) only long tees are cement, short tees are dirt are rutted out
2) not much elevation
3) confusing layout from holes 8-16
4) difficult to navigate and the course map is very inacurate, missed hole 12 and 13 compleatly and couldn't find 15s tee.
5) when i played it seem to not be mowed for more than 10 days
6) "bridges" that go ever holes 5 and 6 are more or less ballance beams
7) on most holes the creek is annoying rather than an obstical, because it is maybe a foot wide and a few inches deep
8) lots of holes play very close together
Other Thoughts: overall it's a less than average course, i do not plan on playing this course again. even if i am in the area, i would play one of the other courses in Cheyenne...which i hear from the locals are much better.
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