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A lot of fun
Pros: A lot of variety, some holes in the woods, some a little more open. Also good use of elevation. Fairways were clear, and pretty well kept.
Cons: Some of the rough could be hard to find discs in.
Other Thoughts: This course actually kind of reminded me of a flip city jr. course without some of the interesting eccentricities that make flip really stand out.
0 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Pros: -This course definitely does a good job of using the land available.
-There's a good balance of left to right and right to left holes. Ability to throw multiple shot types is required to score well on all holes.
-Trash cans at just about every tee. Very little garbage in general.
-Good elevation changes. The two extremes being the uphill 5 and the downhill 14.
-Offers some holes with a lot of air space to work a line, while not being too forgiving. (13 comes to mind.
-Almost never too crowded.
-Picnic tables on just about every hole.
-The course has a few places where you can cross over to make for a quick 7 or 12 hole round.
-There's a good balance of left to right and right to left holes. Ability to throw multiple shot types is required to score well on all holes.
-Trash cans at just about every tee. Very little garbage in general.
-Good elevation changes. The two extremes being the uphill 5 and the downhill 14.
-Offers some holes with a lot of air space to work a line, while not being too forgiving. (13 comes to mind.
-Almost never too crowded.
-Picnic tables on just about every hole.
-The course has a few places where you can cross over to make for a quick 7 or 12 hole round.
Cons: -Only the one porto-potty near the practice basket.
-Has a tendency for some slow moving groups.
-A lot of writing on the picnic tables.
-I wish there was a little bit more length on a couple of the holes.
-Has a tendency for some slow moving groups.
-A lot of writing on the picnic tables.
-I wish there was a little bit more length on a couple of the holes.
Other Thoughts: -This is my home course, so you might consider this review biased in favor of the course. But I just don't get tired of playing this course, and I think that's a definite positive for the course: the replay value.
-There's a lot of comments about luck being important here. I would like to disagree. The more I've played this course the more I've realized that good throws are possible on every hole. You just have to have the right disc/shot for the hole.
-Like has been said, this course has the potential to require every disc in your bag.
-I would actually like to put this at 4.7, it's definitely not a 5, but it's definitely worthy of a 4.5
-There's a lot of comments about luck being important here. I would like to disagree. The more I've played this course the more I've realized that good throws are possible on every hole. You just have to have the right disc/shot for the hole.
-Like has been said, this course has the potential to require every disc in your bag.
-I would actually like to put this at 4.7, it's definitely not a 5, but it's definitely worthy of a 4.5
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
A challenge, but fun.
Pros: -a nice variety of elevation, terrain and shot types needed throughout.
-well constructed. No walking paths full of pedestrians and the course has a nice hole to hole flow that is easy to follow.
-not many "bunnies" on this course at all.
-was relatively clean compared to many courses in West Michigan. There are a number of waste baskets throughout.
-well constructed. No walking paths full of pedestrians and the course has a nice hole to hole flow that is easy to follow.
-not many "bunnies" on this course at all.
-was relatively clean compared to many courses in West Michigan. There are a number of waste baskets throughout.
Cons: -many of the concrete markers have worn paint. I had trouble reading the distance on a few and the location of blind baskets were nearly impossible to decipher.
-a few of the holes are ridiculously difficult for a beginner. I play often and was humbled completely by a few of them, most notable the four-hundred footer straight up hill with a roughly twenty-foot wide fairway at points.
-no bathrooms and very spotty cell reception.
-the signage to find the course was pretty poor. I needed to get directions to the parking lot.
-nit picking perhaps, but as a guy in his thirties, starting the course off with a five-hundred foot hole and not a lot of space to warm up was a con.
-a few of the holes are ridiculously difficult for a beginner. I play often and was humbled completely by a few of them, most notable the four-hundred footer straight up hill with a roughly twenty-foot wide fairway at points.
-no bathrooms and very spotty cell reception.
-the signage to find the course was pretty poor. I needed to get directions to the parking lot.
-nit picking perhaps, but as a guy in his thirties, starting the course off with a five-hundred foot hole and not a lot of space to warm up was a con.
Other Thoughts: I will enjoy this course a lot the second time around now that I know where all the holes are. I can definately see it rising a half point in ranking for me, but it does not compare to Flip City in structure nor beauty, or Brewer Park for overall playability. Definately not a beginner course but I like it!
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Great variety
Pros: The ourse plays through a sprawling park that seemed to be disc golf exclusive with no interference with roads or other park users.There are nice elevation changes on a good number of the holes, with a couple fun downhill shots and some tricky pin placements with roll away potential. One hole offers a narrow straight fairway that goes uphill for over 400', it's a hole that really makes you pay for anything other than dead straight, and adds a great challenge.
There is good length variety, with a couple nice multi-shot holes and some shorter ace run type holes. 1 and 16 offer the chance to air out a drive, though you're punished for not hitting your landing zone, and you still have a tricky approach on both even with a good drive. There is a wide variety of hole shapes, and it felt balanced between left and right turning shots. You'll need a pretty good shot selection to score well here. Signage can be a bit inconsistent, but the course flows well and you at least get a general idea of where to throw.
There is good length variety, with a couple nice multi-shot holes and some shorter ace run type holes. 1 and 16 offer the chance to air out a drive, though you're punished for not hitting your landing zone, and you still have a tricky approach on both even with a good drive. There is a wide variety of hole shapes, and it felt balanced between left and right turning shots. You'll need a pretty good shot selection to score well here. Signage can be a bit inconsistent, but the course flows well and you at least get a general idea of where to throw.
Cons: A couple of the wooded holes are a little bit luck inducing, just a little bit more of a defined line would do a better job of separating scores by skill. I'm not a fan of long grass rough, it's limited here to the handful of more open holes, but it still isn't my favorite type of obstacle on a disc golf course. I didn't ding my rating for this last one, but it seemed to be full of giant groups who weren't good at letting faster groups play through, we spent the entire round waiting on three different groups of 8+ people.
Other Thoughts: This course was very high on fun factor, and the challenge and variety are enough to make it worth a return trip. Beginners might find it a little tight in spots, but the rough is only nasty on some holes and overall it's not too long. More experienced players will find some nice tests of different skills here, and a balanced set of challenges that make for a really fun round.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Bravo!
Pros: Wow. I loved every inch of this course! Those of you who designed it should be proud of yourselves.
Not one single filler hole. Several excellent Disc Golf holes, a few really nicely utilizing elevation. Constantly thinking on the tee. Every disc in my bag saw action.
Bad shots deservedly punished, but I didn't draw blood. That's a big plus...was expecting to lose a limb based on the course description and it wasn't the case at all.
The best possible course was put onto the designated area. Period. And I don't type this lightly. I'm normally a cantankerous critic of course design.
Not one single filler hole. Several excellent Disc Golf holes, a few really nicely utilizing elevation. Constantly thinking on the tee. Every disc in my bag saw action.
Bad shots deservedly punished, but I didn't draw blood. That's a big plus...was expecting to lose a limb based on the course description and it wasn't the case at all.
The best possible course was put onto the designated area. Period. And I don't type this lightly. I'm normally a cantankerous critic of course design.
Cons: There are a couple of instances I remember where you might think a little luck is in play, but the windows you must hit are right there in front of you, and there are no excuses. I'm reaching, really, to put something here. Other than that, it's basically perfect.
Other Thoughts: Fallasburg Park is a destination course all day long. My favorite Michigan course, and I've been playing since 1989. Bravo.
I'd say too, if you're making the destination trip, Hammond Hill about 25-30 minutes south in Hastings is also worth your time. It's a solid 4-star course (and difficult when the pins are in the long position) in my book. I did this today...Two rounds at Fallasburg, then one in Hastings, and my 39-year-old arm fell to the ground and flopped around like a fish. Top off your day at Waldorf Brewpub!
I'd say too, if you're making the destination trip, Hammond Hill about 25-30 minutes south in Hastings is also worth your time. It's a solid 4-star course (and difficult when the pins are in the long position) in my book. I did this today...Two rounds at Fallasburg, then one in Hastings, and my 39-year-old arm fell to the ground and flopped around like a fish. Top off your day at Waldorf Brewpub!
4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Disc Golf Variety Pack
Played: 115 Reviewed: 80 Exp: 9 Years
Pros: Quite simply: they got it right.
• Wonderful blend of well wooded, very well-wooded, and open fairways, with some combining elements of each; features a few holes that are open enough for big drives, but well wooded down the sidelines to punish wayward tee shots.
• Great mix of distances; will have you teeing off with distance drivers, fairways, mids and putters.
• Grabs your interest right off the bat with a 1st hole that's a mildly 'S' shaped 574 footer that starts out fairly open (approx the first 2/3 of the fairway), but is relatively well treed as you approach the guarded basket. Maintains your interest with fairway types and shapes covering all the bases: uphill, down-hill, flat, straight, left, right: anythng but repetitive.
• Elevation is well utilized: from gently rolling terrain to elevated tees well above basket level for that incomparable feeling of throwing off a ledge. Employs a few sloped greens that make you think about laying-up vs. running the chains. Includes a humbling 500' hole that's sloped uphill the entire length from tee to pin.
• Quite a few tucked and blind baskets that require good placement and precision off the tee: whether you have the arm to run the basket to set up birdies, or you'll need to take an upshot to set up a putt for par, your drive has to hit a window that gives you a decent line to the basket.
• Area is dedicated to DG in a large park with plenty of room for other activities.
• Seating (sometimes benches, sometimes cut tree trunks), and garbage cans on the majority of tee pads.
• Dual tees for differing skill levels (all longs are concrete, with a mix of concrete and natural with imbedded toe boards for shorts).
• Flows well from hole to hole - just follow the worn path to next tee. Tee markers are in the ground next to the tee pads; painted concrete shows hole #, distance and general layout.
• Wonderful blend of well wooded, very well-wooded, and open fairways, with some combining elements of each; features a few holes that are open enough for big drives, but well wooded down the sidelines to punish wayward tee shots.
• Great mix of distances; will have you teeing off with distance drivers, fairways, mids and putters.
• Grabs your interest right off the bat with a 1st hole that's a mildly 'S' shaped 574 footer that starts out fairly open (approx the first 2/3 of the fairway), but is relatively well treed as you approach the guarded basket. Maintains your interest with fairway types and shapes covering all the bases: uphill, down-hill, flat, straight, left, right: anythng but repetitive.
• Elevation is well utilized: from gently rolling terrain to elevated tees well above basket level for that incomparable feeling of throwing off a ledge. Employs a few sloped greens that make you think about laying-up vs. running the chains. Includes a humbling 500' hole that's sloped uphill the entire length from tee to pin.
• Quite a few tucked and blind baskets that require good placement and precision off the tee: whether you have the arm to run the basket to set up birdies, or you'll need to take an upshot to set up a putt for par, your drive has to hit a window that gives you a decent line to the basket.
• Area is dedicated to DG in a large park with plenty of room for other activities.
• Seating (sometimes benches, sometimes cut tree trunks), and garbage cans on the majority of tee pads.
• Dual tees for differing skill levels (all longs are concrete, with a mix of concrete and natural with imbedded toe boards for shorts).
• Flows well from hole to hole - just follow the worn path to next tee. Tee markers are in the ground next to the tee pads; painted concrete shows hole #, distance and general layout.
Cons: There's really not a lot holding this course back, and while I don't ding ratings for things like this, I list them to be comprehensive and for the benefit of anyone thinking about traveling to play here:
• I wish the river came into play (or at least into view for, aesthetic purposes) at least once. Seems like a shame not to feature it at all, since hole 16 runs towards it, and 17 and 18 run parallel to it just a few hundred feet away.
• No restroom with running water within eyesight of the 1st/18th hole, or anywhere in between - not even a porta-potty.
• Well wooded = lots of leaves. Any color disc is tough to find when it slides under a layer (or pile) of leaves, but I'd really hate searching for fly dyes and dye jobs at this course.
• I wish the river came into play (or at least into view for, aesthetic purposes) at least once. Seems like a shame not to feature it at all, since hole 16 runs towards it, and 17 and 18 run parallel to it just a few hundred feet away.
• No restroom with running water within eyesight of the 1st/18th hole, or anywhere in between - not even a porta-potty.
• Well wooded = lots of leaves. Any color disc is tough to find when it slides under a layer (or pile) of leaves, but I'd really hate searching for fly dyes and dye jobs at this course.
Other Thoughts: Fallasburg is a wonderful course that is quite challenging and still very enjoyable. Very well wooded in areas, I got to play "Fallasburg Lite" due to the lack of foliage in mid-March, but I have no doubt that it would be an absolute beast missing the fairway in mid-summer with peak vegetation. I suspect one's best bet might be just trying to get back on the fairway rather than attempting to advance directly towards the basket and ending up with another lousy lie with no look. Memorable holes for me are: 1, 13, and 16.
Contrary to what others have mentioned, I like the way 17 and 18 finish the course: open tee shots with enough distance that you have to take a bit of a rip to try and get there. End up on the wrong part of the fairway and you have a few trees to contend with, land in the sweet spot and you could get an easy par, or even a birdie if you have the arm to put a tee shot within your putting range.
For those who like to experience a bit of local flavor, just 5 miles south of the park on Main Street in downtown Lowell is terrific bistro featuring river-front outdoor dining, a wood fired grill, friendly service and some unique twists on classic grill fare: thoroughly enjoyed my Philly Cheesesteak Quesadilla, and I have it on good authority that the brisket's excellent, too.
If you know someone whos into covered bridges, Fallasburg has something for them, too: http://www.kentcountyparksfou...llasburg.html
Contrary to what others have mentioned, I like the way 17 and 18 finish the course: open tee shots with enough distance that you have to take a bit of a rip to try and get there. End up on the wrong part of the fairway and you have a few trees to contend with, land in the sweet spot and you could get an easy par, or even a birdie if you have the arm to put a tee shot within your putting range.
For those who like to experience a bit of local flavor, just 5 miles south of the park on Main Street in downtown Lowell is terrific bistro featuring river-front outdoor dining, a wood fired grill, friendly service and some unique twists on classic grill fare: thoroughly enjoyed my Philly Cheesesteak Quesadilla, and I have it on good authority that the brisket's excellent, too.
If you know someone whos into covered bridges, Fallasburg has something for them, too: http://www.kentcountyparksfou...llasburg.html
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Date: 1/9/2013
Designer Response by: CRDV-3400
I wanted to bring the river more into play, but the North Country Trail runs along the bank. There was initial resistance to getting as close we did.
Intermediate/Expert
Pros: - Course is set in a large park that has tons of forested areas and open areas. Seems like nothing would interfere with the discing, maybe some random hikers or something.
- Great mix of more open holes and those in the forest. Less wooded holes vary from pretty easy to very, very tough. It starts off with hole #1, a 574' bomber that finishes hard left into a protected basket. #16 is another long, long hole that has plenty of obstacles en route to a tough basket placement. #8 finishes to the right with the basket in a small opening in the woods, and #13 is a longer right-finishing holes. The last two holes are simple hyzers, which finish off a tough round with some more open looks.
- The remainder of the course is set in pretty heavily wooded sections, with an awesome mix of curving lines through the trees and defined fairways that demand shot shaping. #2 is a forced RHBH hyzer, #3 is an obvious anhyzer, and so on. With dense forest and patches of jail in many spots, accuracy is extremely important to reach the basket. Lots of protected baskets and some rollaways in these parts as well. Difficulty varies from pretty straightforward to pinball.
- Elevation changes are present on many holes, especially in the forested areas. #5 is a diminishing uphill tunnel shot, big slope means big challenge. Some other lesser uphills, and downhills with a few elevated teepads. Nothing too crazy, but it definitely affects the shot. Some sloping punishment next to fairways and baskets at parts add more challenge too.
- Good variety in hole length, with two monsters in the open, a long uphill tunnel, some shorter more technical shots, and some longer hyzers to air it out. A little on the short side at times, but the difficulty evens them out.
- Good baskets and teepads, awesome tee signs. Navigation not too bad, though I did have a guide... I didn't think it would be super confusing at any time.
- Great mix of more open holes and those in the forest. Less wooded holes vary from pretty easy to very, very tough. It starts off with hole #1, a 574' bomber that finishes hard left into a protected basket. #16 is another long, long hole that has plenty of obstacles en route to a tough basket placement. #8 finishes to the right with the basket in a small opening in the woods, and #13 is a longer right-finishing holes. The last two holes are simple hyzers, which finish off a tough round with some more open looks.
- The remainder of the course is set in pretty heavily wooded sections, with an awesome mix of curving lines through the trees and defined fairways that demand shot shaping. #2 is a forced RHBH hyzer, #3 is an obvious anhyzer, and so on. With dense forest and patches of jail in many spots, accuracy is extremely important to reach the basket. Lots of protected baskets and some rollaways in these parts as well. Difficulty varies from pretty straightforward to pinball.
- Elevation changes are present on many holes, especially in the forested areas. #5 is a diminishing uphill tunnel shot, big slope means big challenge. Some other lesser uphills, and downhills with a few elevated teepads. Nothing too crazy, but it definitely affects the shot. Some sloping punishment next to fairways and baskets at parts add more challenge too.
- Good variety in hole length, with two monsters in the open, a long uphill tunnel, some shorter more technical shots, and some longer hyzers to air it out. A little on the short side at times, but the difficulty evens them out.
- Good baskets and teepads, awesome tee signs. Navigation not too bad, though I did have a guide... I didn't think it would be super confusing at any time.
Cons: - Not many cons here, really. No water or other intense hazards to contend with; it is rough or some forest jail throughout. A good amount of the land is fairly flat as well; holes with elevation changes aren't too crazy, if at all.
- Another one might be shorter hole lengths; while the lines are tricky, some boil down to approach shot lengths. More experienced players might find these a little too short.
- Another one might be shorter hole lengths; while the lines are tricky, some boil down to approach shot lengths. More experienced players might find these a little too short.
Other Thoughts: - I really had to nitpick to find some legitimate cons on this course. Fantastic variety of more open holes, more open holes that are probably true par 4's, tight forest holes with tricky lines, more open/straight wooded holes, with some cool elevation changes going on. Protected baskets, some rollaways, it has a little bit of everything, in some degree. Might be a little tight/rough for some beginners, but everyone else should definitely enjoy it.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Lots of fun elevation
Pros: This course was a lot of fun. It was in a very scenic area out in the country. The course was very well designed. It had many tricky shots that had high risk high reward shots. It had MANY fun elevation shots that challenged you to go for it or risk throwing way off course. This course had such a wide variety of shots and the signs and tee pads were great. First time there and was never confused on where to go and the signs showed the basket accurately.
Cons: Only con I can honestly think of is that there wasn't any water shots. Also a few of the alternate tee pads had yet to be cemented, but we only played the long ones so that was not an issue.
Other Thoughts: Simply amazing course. Some holes a spotter is helpful to have.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Must Play!
Pros: This course has a good mix of all shots, some long, some tight, and some just Ric-dic-ulious!
-Very Easy to follow.
-Signs on all tee pads
-Pro and Woman/Rec pads.
-Plenty of benchs, picnic tables to chill and relax.
-Very Easy to follow.
-Signs on all tee pads
-Pro and Woman/Rec pads.
-Plenty of benchs, picnic tables to chill and relax.
Cons: Not many other than it can be somewhat difficult to play solo on the longer holes... unless you really like search by yourself or just be friendly and join another group.
-No restrooms
-No restrooms
Other Thoughts: Again a must play if your in the area or like me make a weekend road trip out to west Michigan.
Go ahead and knock me for the "piss-poor" review, but I like to keep is short and simple! ;)
Go ahead and knock me for the "piss-poor" review, but I like to keep is short and simple! ;)
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Played: 22 Reviewed: 6 Exp: 3.2 Years
Pros: -Variety: This course has it all, except water. You will go from a 500+ ft semi-open hole to technical, tightly wooded holes and then back again. The elevation use is outstanding, with both extreme uphill and downhill shots. It has both right and left turns through wooded paths, always keeping you on your toes. A couple memorable holes (probably b/c of their difficulty!) were a 500ft. extreme uphill shot down what I call a two-track with horror on either side, and the longest hole there-778ft with trees and bushes to navigate around. Trouble off the fairways is the norm here.
-Beauty/seclusion: Fallasburg is exclusively a DG course and is well off the beaten path, which is what makes it so great in my book. It feels like its just you and the course out there.
-Seats/trashcans: There are lots of trashcans and many seating areas which will be greatly appreciated when battling this monster. Many are picnic tables and a few are logs or railroad ties.
-Teepads/baskets: concrete tees are in excellent shape and plenty big. Some holes even have concrete amatuer tees. Baskets are in great shape, and there is a practice basket.
-Beauty/seclusion: Fallasburg is exclusively a DG course and is well off the beaten path, which is what makes it so great in my book. It feels like its just you and the course out there.
-Seats/trashcans: There are lots of trashcans and many seating areas which will be greatly appreciated when battling this monster. Many are picnic tables and a few are logs or railroad ties.
-Teepads/baskets: concrete tees are in excellent shape and plenty big. Some holes even have concrete amatuer tees. Baskets are in great shape, and there is a practice basket.
Cons: -NO SIGNS! This is a huge con for a course of this caliber. I rarely know what hole number I'm on, let alone the distance or pin location on the few blind holes. This will frustrate first-timers, and still is a drawback after playing the course 5+ times.
-Leaves on some of the wooded holes can make it difficult to find discs even in the fairway.
-No bathroom or porta-john. This is not a big deal for me, but may be for some. There is a park with a playground and some buildings that you drive by shortly before arriving at the course. These may have bathrooms in the Spring to Fall, but I'm not sure.
-Leaves on some of the wooded holes can make it difficult to find discs even in the fairway.
-No bathroom or porta-john. This is not a big deal for me, but may be for some. There is a park with a playground and some buildings that you drive by shortly before arriving at the course. These may have bathrooms in the Spring to Fall, but I'm not sure.
Other Thoughts: Tee signs and some course maintenance could make this a 5 disc course.
If you want to get away from it all and avoid city crowds, Fallasburg is a top choice. Anyone in the area should check it out, but I would even make it a first stop or destination of a road trip to the area. There are other parks (one w/ a playground) and other areas to explore, including a river and covered bridge, right around the corner from the DG course. Its just a really beautiful area all around.
If you want to get away from it all and avoid city crowds, Fallasburg is a top choice. Anyone in the area should check it out, but I would even make it a first stop or destination of a road trip to the area. There are other parks (one w/ a playground) and other areas to explore, including a river and covered bridge, right around the corner from the DG course. Its just a really beautiful area all around.
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