Middle of Kansas Awesome
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: If you are like me and favor courses in well maintained parks with large, old growth trees, this is a near perfect course.
It has concrete tees, some slight elevation, and great shots over and around a decent size creek.
Best of all, it is well mowed and maintained. This makes the perfect mid-Kansas stop to break up those long road trips.
Cons: No signs. There are a few tricky bits that can get you lost, especially when you have to cross the bridge over the creek.
Lots of walking to see blind shots, but having spotters out on the fairway on blind shots keeps me from wasting time looking for discs, so I didn't mind it that much.
Only got the pig smell on one hole, but it was memorable.
Other Thoughts: After you leave KC, this may be the best course near I-70 till you hit the mountains.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Amazing course in need of signage
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Although perhaps bias (having played this course when I was younger), I always really loved this course. The majestic cottonwood trees, the very real water traps, the vastness of all 18 holes with no overlaps, the buffalo, and the variety in the holes. This course is challenging and requires the ability to drive far. It also demands a great deal of accuracy on the holes with water traps - and there are several. There are also opportunities to open up. The variety of shots exposes the strengths and weaknesses of all players. There are two tees for each hole and two pins that will occasionally relocate. The placement of the tees are very thoughtful and well conceived. The pins are also cleverly placed. The overall design of this course is quite remarkable. It does not favor right or left handed players, and will require forehand and backhand shots from every player. The placement of tees and pins isn't obvious or contrived or intentionally difficult or intentionally obnoxious - every toss on this course is a real pleasure. If you like disc golf, you cannot pass this one up - courses of this caliber are rare.
Cons: Fortunately for me, I grew up with this course, even though I didn't take my technique seriously until I moved away from Hays for college, many years ago. I played this course yesterday for the first time in over six years. Without my intimate knowledge of the course layout, I surely would have been very frustrated. Frontier Park is really four or five parks grouped together separated by main roads, forested areas, and an impassable creek. The course utilizes this entire area. Hole seven requires a very (relatively) long walk, over a traffic bridge and roadway, along a dyke, and several hundred feet from the last pin - and there is essentially no signage to explain this. It almost seems like you're leaving the park and entering a different part of the town. There are beautiful limestone posts that once had maps for each hole; these have long been neglected. Normally I appreciate walk-aheads on holes to scout out the pin - it's more exercise. But since this course is already so expansive, scouting out holes for first-timers probably becomes tiresome very quick. It is hard not to disagree with those who have already pointed out the lack of signs, despite finding this course so outstanding. My recommendation, like with any course, is that if you have a smartphone like nearly everyone on the planet does, snap a photo of the course map at tee 1. This course is so vast and detailed, with alternative holes and tees, that you will really have to make an effort to study the map, and review details at every single tee. This is fairly standard for anybody who plays new courses often, but Frontier Park is extra special in this sense.
Other Thoughts: If night golf is your thing, the pins on this course use reflective tape for the number designation. A quick flick of your flashlight easily shows where each pin sits.
As I've already mentioned, this course is quite long, and does one gigantic loop. Be prepared for a long hike, bring lots of water, and I always recommend a short break at holes that have benches.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Home of the flying bison
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: +Course map on bulletin board at tee one.
+Concrete tee pads & mach 3s.
+Alt. tees and pin locations on most all holes.
+Limestone fence posts mark orginal tee pad locations.
+Beautiful mature trees including majestic cottonwoods.
+Course follows and crosses over big creek several times making for many pucker shots during round. I carry at least 2 water discs per round.
+Established course built in the early 80s.
+Course has a great tradition with many admirers.
+Must throw a controlled round to score well.
+Well balanced for both lefties and righties.
+Newly added holes A,B,and C, are an option for the more technical crowd.
Cons: -Signage is non existence. Can be very confusing for first timers but for the seasoned disc golfer navigation should not be to big of a problem. Just remember cross main street bridge after hole 6.
-Tee pads are short but wide.
-Course can become very busy during prime throwing hours. The people of Hays love throwing disc.
-A few pins are blind so be prepared to walk fairways to locate basket.
-Some throws cross park roadways but with a little patience not really an issue. Roadways are OB.
-Wandering park goers may interrupt round momentarily at times.
-Course does not loop back to parking lot during round so pack for 18.
-High winds can make for very interesting round.
-Only 2 or 3 bomber holes.
Other Thoughts: Frontier park is one of the oldest disc golf courses in the country. The course design is amazing. Not one boring hole on the course. Erant shots will cost you strokes and discs. Be prepared to stay focused for 18 holes. I believe Frontier Park to be one of the most interesting and challenging disc golf courses in the country. For the true disc golf enthusiast Frontier disc golf course is a must play.
As a side note I threw my first disc on this course. I could not believe how much fun disc golf can be. It was love at first throw.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Old But Good
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a challenging little course set in a very nice park in the small town of Hays, KS. The design of the course has to be mentioned as simply amazing at time and really good the rest of the time. Shots range from nice and long and really short. The course tends to dictate what kind of shot you are going to throw and the more different shots you have the better. There are multiple tee pads and pin positions on every holes. There is enough space in the park that they could have 2 separate 18 holes courses. While other amenities may be a little far away, the park does have some very nice features including a the ability to turn this one course into two eighteen hole courses. There is a strong local club that does a great job with the course and setting it up for tournaments was second to none. There are a lot of trees on this course and most of them seem to come into play. Precision is a must on this course as I found out the hard way and did not shoot well..
Cons: Baskets are quite old, some of them definitely should be retired in favor of new baskets. The tee pads felt very short to be when we were playing off the tee pads. Even in the midst of a tournament there was enough park traffic that it become interesting on a couple of times. There is some water that you will not want to go into to retrieve a disc. Regular tee signs were less than ideal. Several baskets were all too close to a tees pad. Occasionally fairways will cross each other. The neighbors on one side are buffalo ranchers.
Other Thoughts: This course was a lot of fun and very challenging all at the same time. I played alternate layouts for this course for a tournament. I wish there was a piece of land like this close to where I live. This is a course worth the stop and time to play it. I believe that in the normal layout hole 1 is over as far West as you can go before not being in the park any longer. The A, B and C holes are able to be played on a regular basis and have permanent tees and baskets. One could either choose to start or to finish on these holes.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Middle of Nowhere Surprise
Pros: This is where I learned how to golf. Has great holes that will call for every kind of shot in the bag. Plus it is always blowing, which will help with your wind game. Lots of hazards to deal with (roads, water, sloping greens). Perfect resting place when heading through Kansas.
Cons: Some of the tees can be pretty close to the last basket...so watch your back.
Other Thoughts: Check out Ellis, KS (11 miles west) if you have time too.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course has 2 sets of tees for every hole and there are also alt. pin placements. There is water threat on a few holes, especially on the holes where you tee off across the creek.
There are enough trees to keep this park style course interesting. Several of the holes require line shaping too.
There are long holes and short holes here as well depending on which set of tees you prefer to play.
There are other amenities here: restrooms, playgrounds, etc.
Some of my favorite holes here 5, 11, 16, & 17.
Cons: The biggest cons for me is the lack of signage on the stone markers. There was only one hole that still had the hole layout on a post and it was hard to read. This makes it difficult for the first timer or the out of towner to navigate this course and judge the distance of their shot selection. Obviously scouting ahead could be done but with a little updating that problem could be eliminated.
Lots of beer cans on the ground, some trash cans might alleviate this???
There are a few holes where a road or two comes into play. Also there are a couple of holes where a swing set might get plunked so please look before you rip.
Like others have said there is a smell that is pretty stank about hole 7 or so. I didn't notice when I played here in Nov., but when I first played here in the summer 2 years ago it was pretty ripe.
Other Thoughts: This is a pretty nice course even with some of its flaws. Yes the music can be annoying coming from the pool, but how is that the course's fault?
I feel this course has taken a few hits recently. It is a course that will challenge your decision making on some holes and offers risk reward on other holes. If the signage were to be updated I think the reviews for this course would be better. With that said its one of the better courses west of I135. I personally can overlook some of the piddly flaws because the disc golf here is pretty good. And after all isn't that what you came here for in the first place?
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 8 Not
Singage? What signage!
Pros: Looks like a pretty setting. Nice concrete T-boxes.
Cons: Signage? What signage. My wife and I were traveling across KS and wanted to play some disc golf en route. This course was reported to be the oldest course in KS in a beautiful setting. We drove into the first entrance we saw for the park but saw no signs for a disc golf course. We did see some baskets so stopped and parked. We started play at an unknown hole because there were no markings or signage on the T-box. The post rock near the T-box had nothing on it. We didn't know where the basket was so we threw in the direction the T-box pointed until we got close enough to see a basket and then walked to the basket to look for a number. This particular basket had a number. What luck. Finished the hole and had no idea where the next T-box was. There was no one else playing that we could see so we wandered around to find a basket with a number and then find a T-box with a corresponding number. We never did find a T-box with a number. We just had to find any T-box and then walk out the front until we found a basket. Hopefully it had a number corresponding the the hole we were supposed to be playing. This was a hit and miss proposition. We probably walked the equivalent of three holes to play one hole. This process continued and we got so frustrated that we left before finishing. We never did see a sign or any marking at any T-box.
Other Thoughts: I'd be embarrassed to be a local and too cheap to buy a can of spray paint and not put numbers on the T-boxes. This type of lack of signage discourages the growth of the sport. What newbee wants to spend their day solving a jigsaw puzzle. They have enough trouble figuring out how to get the disc to go where they want it to go.
4 of 12 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
My first DG experience
Pros: A nice variety of open and wooded terrain.
The creek makes a good water hazard on several holes.
Course layout is easy to follow, mostly because it's so heavily travelled.
Cons: The creek is polluted and nasty.
Grass grows poorly on most of the course, typical for the climate but still a con.
Other Thoughts: As my first DG course, the one that first sparked my interest when I saw FHSU students playing while I was jogging, this course will always hold a special place for me.
The course is heavily utilized, mostly by FHSU students.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 2 Not
Diamond in the rough?
Pros: -Proof that a course doesn't have to have massive elevation changes to be challenging. There are some great holes here, even in pancake-like Kansas
-Nice use of natural obstacles - the river, mature trees, etc.
-Set in a nice metro park. I could see myself visiting the park regularly if I lived in Hays, even if it weren't to play disc golf... except for:
Cons: -The course smells like manure. I don't know where it came from; I saw some buffalo herding near the first couple holes, but the smell was most pungent further afield.
-The signage is nonexistent. There are points in the course where a first-timer at Frontier Park would have absolutely no idea where the next tee is. In fact, there were many times I just guessed which tee was next, then found out I was completely wrong based on seeing the pair throwing a couple holes ahead of me. Each tee is marked with a stone, waist-high post, which is aesthetically pleasing in a way, but blends in way too easily with the surroundings.
-The course layout is problematic at best and dangerous at worst. There are too many holes that border the road in such a way that even a seasoned disc golfer could easily hit a passing car without meaning too. Also, there are places, although not many, where the next tee is less than five feet from the previous hole's basket, which seemingly contradicts my last grievance, but the confusion is mixed at Frontier Park.
-When I played the course there was a baseball team practicing in the stadium near holes 7-9, and they were playing top 40 EXTREMELY loud over the speakers. While this is a situational complaint, I'm sure it's not the only time it's happened. If I were a regular here it would drive me insane.
Other Thoughts: It's frustrating; this course could be fantastic if, minimally, effort would be put into adding signs to each tee indicating which hole it is and where the next tee will be. And if something could be done about that manure...
4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 5 Not
Other Thoughts: i came here in 2010 expecting a well- maintained, historic disc golf course that must have been well loved to survive this long, but instead, it almost seemed abandoned- no signage whatsoever, not even at the beginning to indicate that this was indeed a disc golf course. some tee pads had views of multiple baskets- where to throw? if they still have pro tourneys here, do they mark the course for them? why not leave the signage up?
i was very disappointed with the course, after reading some of the reviews here and taking time out of my road trip to play here, sorry. i would say that the park has taken a serious nose-dive since the pictures on this site were taken.
0 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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