25 Helpful / 0 Not
Impressive - A must play.
Fantastic layout and design by John Houck
. This course plays tight technical holes that are densely wooded to long monster open holes complete with elevation changes between shots. The layout forces a player to use every shot in their bag to produce big payoffs or big trouble.
The tees are large concrete pads playing to DisCatcher pins (much easier to see than the Mach III's) that are great for players new to the course. Every hole has a two tee options for par and pro par players, and each tee is comes complete with full color sign showing the hole design and yardage.
Sign, signs, and more signs. The holes are big and crisscross over each other - but if a new player to the course is observant - they shouldn't get lost since there are ample signs pointing to pins and upcoming tee boxes.
I've heard about drainage issues on this course, but I played it after Dallas received about 5" of rain over a week, and I never had a single issue on one or the rest of the course.
(Yes, this is a positive) - Hole three - this baby is one B.M.F. It plays almost 700' from the front and 824' from the pros. A person throws from an elevated box on setting up for a big dog leg right and into the depression in the land. From there you enjoy a blind pin shot (look for the sign) over some water and large hill guarded by growth on either side. You will not forget this hole.
BEST HOLE/S: #3; #4
Cons: If this place had a little more water, I think it could satisfy every player. Even then I'm trying to find a negative about this course. This is a serious course that will challenge every playing level, although newer disc golfers may get discouraged after a while (especially during hole three). Of course - new players may also get spoiled if this is what they'll compare all other courses too.
Parking is easy, but finding the first tee would be a little easier to find if there was a nice course map by the parking lot. We found the first and last holes by a little trial an error when first arriving to the park.
WORST HOLE/S: #17
Harry Myers is championship caliber course - period. It has all the elements a player wants to improve their game and become a better player. My buddy even said hole five felt a little DeLaveaga(ish) with it's tight wooded tees over an elevated tee box.
I think what sets this course apart from other courses is its diversity. On one hole you're playing in the deep forest curving around trees and hoping to stay out of the swampy mess, and later you'll play a Texas hill country hole with good elevation on a wide and rough countryside terrain.
Also, given the fact that there are two equally thought out tee placements, 36 holes is a great option, and I'm sad I didn't have time to test the pro par locations. If you do get in 36 - plan on making a day of it, because the course feels long and will work you.
Given all of this, Harry Myers deserves my first 5 star rating ever because I played Towne Lake DGC
, Alex Clark Memorial DGC
, B.B. Owen Park
, and Porter Park DGC
in the same day - and in that great company this course still stands alone.
25 of 25 people found this review helpful.
16 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Very good course with TONS of different shots. Short and longs on pads on most holes. A good mix of tight fairways and open shots. This course will test everything you have in your bag and then some. You will need everything from rollers to thumbers and everything in between. Great tee signs and baskets. The pads are good as well. Must be consistent off of the pad and on up shots as well to score well. A big arm is a big plus especially from the longs. Not any places to lose plastic is a plus too. Pretty east to follow except for 3 and 8. You really get rewarded for good shots and punished for bad ones when you are in the rough.
Cons: Holes 3 and 8 can be confusing for someone that hasnt played before(you see 8's basket from the tee). The criss cross of the fairway after 8 is crazy too. A little trimming around some of the baskets and a couple of fairways would be nice too. Other then that, not much except poison ivy and snakes during the hotter months.
Other Thoughts: Park and playground nearby for the family to hang out. Fun and worth the drive!!
16 of 16 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 2 Not
Top of the List
Pros: Houk had A good time on this one,variety of shots needed to shoot well,Ties Houks other course in Mckinney for best signage,very nice low rolling valley the course flows thru.If your wondering if you are at pro level try battling all longs here.Playing mixed tees here is the best eighteen of hardcore Disc you can put yourself through in the metroplex hands down.Two of the longest holes in DFW reside here.
Cons: On windy days you'll definately feel it on the back half.Not alot of trash cans.I have seen lost discs on eighteen going hyzer over the basket deep into the woods or (snake)pond.A few short holes that are a little dull towards the end.
Other Thoughts: If I had to do a top five best DFW holes countdown Hole three here is one of them,Z Boaz,Gateway an Crossroads of Life and Veterans the only comparisons to this beast of a park. .
8 of 10 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Everything you would want for a tricky course is offered at this course. Woods, tricky holes,easy holes, and great scenery is just a taste of what is provided. Played this course for my first round of disc golf ever and enjoyed every bit of it.
Cons: The only thing i can honestly think of is maybe updating the hole info at the tee area.
Other Thoughts: Worth playing and well deserved of the #17 rating it has on the top courses and could very well be higher rating.
3 of 9 people found this review helpful.
23 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Beautiful city park that's always well groomed, has nice/clean restrooms, water fountains, and a small water park for kids. The City of Rockwall puts a lot of man hours into keeping this park clean, and the large number of people there on an average weekend shows the results of those efforts.
The course was designed by John Houck, so you know it's going to be challenging...and hole 1 starts off with a big challenge. The basket for this hole sits on a steep incline leading to a small creek - very beautiful, but treacherous. Holes 2 and 3 are long (#3 is the definition of "epic"), 4 - 8 are all short/tight/technical midrange distance shots. Hole 9 offers another big challenge with its tight, up-and-down, winding tunnel lined with thick woods leading up to an elevated basket. Holes 10-11 are mostly flat with some very slight elevation changes, but both have narrow fairways lined with trees. 12-15 are all birdieable, and although each is unique, these feel a little like "filler" holes compared to the signature holes early on. 16 is another bomber - uphill through a fairway dotted with evergreen trees with OB fence on the left. 17 is a giant, wide-open par 5 that utilizes an imaginary OB line marked by a series of trees...pretty difficult from the long tees, but a little gimmicky to me. 18 is a simple hyzer with another sloped green, this time heading towards thick underbrush.
All in all the design is very challenging from both sets of tees...though the longs do offer significantly more challenge on most holes. Houck did a great job of utilizing all the unique landscape features in the park, and most of the holes really make you think before you throw.
New Discatchers on every hole, most have 2 sets of tees (all concrete), and each tee has a very nice sign.
Cons: Many of the holes will probably be overwhelming for new players.
The sign for #3 makes it looks lot shorter than it actuall is, which confused me the first time through. Also, the walk from Hole 8 to Hole 9 crosses the fairway for Hole 3...though the area is open enough that being hit isn't really a concern.
Some of the schule is very thick and difficult to recover from - for me, this isn't necessarilly a con but to some it could be.
I've heard some complaints about the wind at this park...but personally I've never felt it was stronger here than anywhere else in Rockwall. In my opinion, wind is a part of the game...so you just have to deal with it.
Other Thoughts: The first time I played Harry Myers I was blown away...it offers some truly unique holes: 1,2,3,9....especially 3 (I could play that hole all day). After playing several more rounds, I realized that some of the holes pale in comparison to the others. Should Houck have "toned down" the signature holes to make the others seem better? Absolutely not! The signature holes make this course...and the rest are all very solid, just don't make me feel any excitement like the others.
From what I've heard, the City of Rockwall has been very pleased with the course and is already making plans for more. Considering the amount of resources they have available, Rockwall could really make a name for itself in the Disc Golf community with more courses like Harry Myers DGC.
23 of 23 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 0 Not
love this course
Pros: This course is very challenging. It requires a large variety of shots to shoot par. The mix of par 3's, 4's, and 5's keeps most of my discs busy. #3 is a little tricky. The sign says it veers right but the dog leg is almost 90 degrees to the right. It is a very long hole, as is 17. The group that I play with refers to holes 5-7 as the Ho Chi Mihn Trail. You can add a lot of strokes on these three holes. #9 takes you back through the woods once again. If you play during the week, it is seldom crowded. I try and play this course a few times a week. The park is very clean and has water fountains and restrooms near the first tees. This is the best course I have played in the area. The city of Rockwall has now gone out and put up at least one new sign per hole and two or three on the tricky holes. There is now no way to get confused or not know where the baskets are located. Kudos to the city for spending the money to put up these new signs. Hopefully the new lakeside park will be completed soon and Rockwall will become the premiere location for disc golf in the metroplex.
Cons: If you don't get out early on the weekends it can get crowded fast. I have had to wait behind groups of 5-7 teenagers a couple times. Most people are very courteous and will be happy to waive you through. Some people have complained about poison ivy. I do see where it could be a major problem but I have been really deep into the woods and have never gotten a single outbreak. I am very allergic to it so if I got into it, I would know.
Other Thoughts: I throw a roller off the tee on #'s 2, 13. I consider myself a decent beginner. I have played this course many times, always from the red tees, and have shot 63 one time. I average 69. If you can make the trip out to Rockwall I highly recommend this track. Happy throwing.
11 of 11 people found this review helpful.
14 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Long, professional level design stressing power and accuracy, along with placement shots. Many par 4's and a par 5. Water hazard. Different types of terrain including gentle hills, a bowl shaped valley, a jungle, lines of cedar trees on a grassy hill, etc. Beautiful land. Dual cement tees on half the holes. Dual tee signs as well, bathroom and ample parking.
Cons: I'm surprised no one pointed out the major con of poison ivy. There is so much here, I landed in it 9 times in one round, playing very well. If you are allergic, you should skip 1/3 of the holes, be very cautious on the rest.
It can be tough to find a few tee pads, there are no indicators.
Hole #3 was mega-confusing. It didn't seem to match the tee-sign, and you had to play 800' up before you can see it or where it may be.
Other Thoughts: The poison ivy is at an outrageous level, even growing directly below a basket on hole #6.
14 of 16 people found this review helpful.
19 Helpful / 0 Not
Challenging course, above average for DFW, but still some fundamental problems.
Pros: This course has a couple of the best holes in the state. As have been mentioned before, holes 2 and 3 -- especially from the longs -- are awesome, memorable, challenging beautiful holes.
The teesigns are great, two concrete teepads on most holes is a plus. The longs play harder than probably any other course in the DFW area, which is good, because DFW needed some courses that are closer to blue/gold level to challenge players to expand their game.
The mix of wooded and open holes is good. It has above average elevation changes for a Texas course. Mix of short and long holes, with everything from deuce-or-die shots to a true par 5 (hole 3 long) that requires accuracy, distance and placement.
Cons: Other people have mentioned the drainage problems, so I won't go into those -- they are a problem, but the four times I've been to the course (in winter, fall and early-spring) drainage hasn't been a big problem -- certainly no worse than other courses in the area (better in many cases). So that's partially a tolerance thing. Do I wish the course was dry and friendly -- yes -- but can I live with some swampy areas on the course -- yes. Just don't bring your best shoes and keep an extra towel on you and you'll be fine. However, the basket for hole 1 is in desperate need of moving a little away from the water because the slope is so unforgiving that it eats a lot of discs on what were great throws. Bad luck should not consistently cost players a disc -- even when they throw safe shots -- yet this hole does.
The bigger problems I have with the course -- that keep it from getting a higher rating -- are that a lot of the back of the course just gets a little laborious and doesn't force enough different throws. The back nine is more of a traditional "Texas"-stereotype course -- big hyzer backhands will get you everywhere it doesn't force players to really improve their games or their shot selection.
My pet peeve on the course is the horribly-marked OB on hole 17. The signage shows a row of planted trees that are the OB-line. Yet the hole has 20-30 trees in several lines (you can connect the trees in at least a dozen different lines), and it is impossible to tell from the signage what was intended by the course designer. This makes a huge difference in strategy for playing the hole. I think the artificially marked OB is a great idea in making the hole more of a risk/reward shot, but if you are going to do that, you MUST mark the OB trees clearly or you just cause innumerable headaches for every group who tries to play the hole.
Other Thoughts: I feel like I'm echoing a lot of existing sentiments, but I figure the repetition is worth hearing for people interested in playing the course -- and hopefully for the parks people and folks who maintain the course as well.
For people interested in playing the course, it is worth the drive out to Rockwall, and the course does have some very memorable shots. I am usually a fan of playing the longest, hardest layouts possible on a course, but in the case of Harry Myers, I would change my recommendation: play the shorts and you'll be much happier (except maybe holes 1,2,3 -- play those long). The shorts flow better and are less mentally taxing than the longs and really make for a much more fun day of golf.
For most players, the longs will just be frustrating because with the exception of a couple of holes, the longs are just far enough and open enough that shot selection becomes nonexistant: you just take your biggest driver and bomb it RHBH and then go for the lay-up par-3. That's just a silly way to play golf and lessens the joy and beauty of the game.
Play the shorts where your shot selection still has to be careful, but where control and placement off the teebox at least comes a little more into play. The longs have some great potential to spread out the pro scores at tourneys, but for most players, they won't be worth the frustration on a day-to-day basis.
So in short: definitely worth playing if you live in DFW, just to work on different elements of your game. If you're visiting the area, its worth playing just to play holes 2 and 3 (play them a couple times each and enjoy), but don't expect to be "wowed" by the rest of the course.
19 of 19 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Finally DFW has a course that isn't just all par 3s. The city of Rockwall allowed Houck to design a course on a beautifully kept piece of land and ss of the holes should be standards for other courses to measure themselves. Holes 2 and 3 are very well done and require well placed drives to have any chance of a birdie or par.
Cons: When this course was designed one of the major "don'ts" was committed for Texas course design - Don't design a course in the middle of summer, let alone at the tail end of a three year drought. Because of this hold 1 is near unplayable if you've had a recent heavy rain. And even if not, the water is too close to the pin location for a steeply sloping non-grass green like that. Hole 3 gets a rather large collection pool in one of the prime landing areas. The holes that play down in the heavily wooded area are then at risk of being entirely underwater not to mention completely covered with poison ivy. Other holes are natural drainage lines for other areas of the park and are constantly wet and muddy even though there is no standing water. As people have mentioned before at least one of the fairways have to be crossed to get to another hole. And some holes fall into the "make it long because that will make it hard" mindset, ie 17. I know it might be one of the signature holes but really there is nothing to it except a couple long wide open drives. If you want to make a long hole then it has to have some kind of purpouse (hole 3 -a long dogleg right).
Other Thoughts: All in all a good course but it is one that seems to try too hard. I think it should be replanned and some major upkeep done to limit the poison ivy and drainage issues.
Also, no matter what it's like in the rest of DFW, it is always windy in the park. Due to the basin/bowl landscape it can get very windy when outside of the park it's quite calm.
12 of 13 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 2 Not
Fun, Fun, Fun!
Pros: Great use of elevation change gives this course more "epic" holes than any I've ever played.
Excellent facilities: parking, restrooms, baskets, tee pads and signs.
Alternate tee locations to seperate the big boys (not me) from the recreational players (me).
The fairways are well groomed and the course has good flow and is easy to follow.
Cons: The rough is a little too rough on a few holes. You can lose discs in the knee high weeds.
10 of 12 people found this review helpful.
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