3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The holes taken individually are mostly amazing masterpieces that offer a huge challenge to a good player.
Cons: The overall design of this course is a nightmare. It is easy to follow the flow of the course for the first four holes, and then all of the structural issues become apparent.
The first problem is that the 4th basket is placed down a narrow walking path beyond what should be an open green (though there would be trees). It's a very long hole that very few of the big bombers could reach, and it would only be fair that the basket be accessible for a deuce. What further makes this a bad placement is that it is right next to the basket for hole #13 and there is great confusion as to where to go next.
Getting to the 5th tee requires backtracking across what should be the 4th green, taking a short path that crosses the 7th green and then turning left. There are no markings whatsoever to indicate this, and it is very dangerous to backtrack across two greens. If the green were out in the open, it would be obvious to turn left (they could let the path to the current pin grow over so that no one enters the 13th green).
The next step would be to completely redesign the next few holes. The green for #7 should become the #5 tee and go from there. This is an incredible piece of land and it would be very easy to rearrange these 3 holes in a way that winds back around to the tee at #8 (a very easy hole that could also simply be done away with and another hole inserted somewhere to make up for it, perhaps then renumbering #9 as #8 and going from there).
The 9th and 10th holes are fine, but the 11th should move the tee about 15 feet to the left. It seems that the designer wanted to challenge right handers with a forced and extreme anhyzer, but failed to recognize that the angle is far too extreme and there is no play whatsoever for a lefty. The pin is brilliantly hidden down in an arroyo, so there is no need at all to make the tee shot that technical or difficult since the challenge is at the green.
The 12th hole is a disaster. It is far too difficult, and it is virtually impossible to make a good tee shot, even for placement (again, I am a lefty and even a right hander with a perfect turnover shot is barely going to get placement in the fairway out to 200 feet. The long pin placement should also be eliminated. There is absolutely no way to make a putt on that position, even if one were to have a drive reach within 50 feet. The short pin should be the permanent pin, as it is also located right next to the path to the 13th tee.
The 13th seems to be considered one of the signature holes, but it is one of the worst holes on the course (a tornado seems to have blown through the night before and the basket was covered with a tree, as was the tee on #11). There are no lines to reach the green for a left handed player and almost no line anywhere for a right hander. It is 220 and slightly uphill, which should be an easy midrange, even for a guy of 53 like me, yet nearly impossible to get a drive in the middle even halfway up the fairway. This could be solved by strategically removing approximately 4-8 trees on each side of the fairway.
The 14th could also benefit from some strategic cutting of maybe 3 or 4 trees on each side of the fairway.
The 15th is a perfect hole.
The 16th is a complete disaster. It is unreachable for a left handed player. At least a dozen trees to the left need to be removed to make this hole fair to both players.
The 17th hole suffers from almost exactly the same problem as the 16th, with no paths to the basket to the left. It is short and could be reached easily for the deuce, but I fired a driver straight up the middle and was 50 feet past the hole. It is impossible for a lefty to turn it left against slope and through that many trees. I had a difficult approach--the protected green is a fine challenge--and did leave it within 5 feet for an easy par, but the hole should be fair to both right and left handed players and should have fair routes for both to potentially get a deuce.
The 18th is a little bland for a finishing hole, but there are no structural issues and it is fair.
Other Thoughts: I would have loved each hole if the course layout were more friendly and if a few holes were more balanced.
It is a wonderful piece of land that could be a championship course, but it is poorly cared for after this storm and has quite a few very bad design flaws.
Fix those and it's one of the best courses I've ever seen.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Some cool holes
-not crowded (didn't see a single disc golfer from 4 to 6 on a Tuesday)
-It will most definitely challenge your accuracy
Cons: -Unclear where tees are when going from hole to hole.
- Many of the fairways are more like hiking paths rather than disc fairways
-there is a lot of low branch growth in the fairways/near the baskets
-tee maps on each hole (aside from the ones missing their signs) are not too helpful
-Many of the baskets are blind shots; not good if playing alone especially for the first time
-lots of poison ivy/oak on the sides of the tight fairways (luckily I am not allergic but none the less)
Other Thoughts: This is a very technical course with a lot of challenges. There are not many options for those who are not really good AM or Pro unless you want to go rummaging through the poison Ivy/Oak.
In regards to the direction of "1st tee by swing set" There are three swing sets. If you park in the lot at 5009 Aztec Blvd. the swing set that is mentioned is to the right (the opposite direction of the basketball court)
0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 6 Not
Little bit too much love
Pros: Okay so the course starts off with a front nine that has its challenges and some holes are sort of long. The holes are well layed out and some of them can be challenging with small and bigger trees in the middle of the fairways. Its in a nice, quiet location in a neighborhood that you would not expect to have a course in.
Cons: Ok where do I begin? The back nine or so has shots that are impossible because the trees and the brush is not cut enough away to have a shot at all. Also the back half of the course makes it hard to figure out where you are going from tee to tee because the lay-out is not setup in a nice pattern. Once you get to number 12 you have to go into a whole other part of the park which gets very confusing. I only give this course 2 discs because the last 2 holes are cool and the front 10 or so are reasonable disc golf holes. The canopies in the woods makes it impossible to score and there is plenty of confusion on where new holes start.
Other Thoughts: If you're driving through Missouri and want to stop on the way, just keep driving to Kansas City.
3 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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