Challenging and a challenge to navigate
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This can be a challenging course to play with some holes with very tight fairways. There is also a good mix of open holes with OB that adds challenge with a bit of gimmicry in one instance. This course rewards the ability of a right hand player to throw forehand shots on about a third of the holes. The areas along the river add elevation as well as water OB to the mix. Elevation changes very near the basket adds challenge to holes 2, 5, 9, 11 and 20. Two new tunnel holes have been added after hole 15 and there are a few holes that are open enough to allow for some big rips. Holes 19 and 20 come to mind as the more open. Several holes require good placement shots off the tee to set up your approach, especially hole 11.
Speaking of hole 11, this hole begs for a straight or right turning shot out of the woods, into the open to set up a shot into a tunnel back into the woods. However, the basket is across a gully and on the edge of a 25' cliff. If you are short or low, even by just a little bit, you will be putting at a very steep angle just to get near the basket which could be 20 feet about your head. It's a very impressive hole given the relative flatness of most of the course.
I had a lot of fun on this course playing it before and during a recent tournament. I'll definitely play it again as soon as I get a chance.
Cons: The most glaring con about his course is the lack of navigational aids. It is dirt easy get lost looking for the next tee and almost guaranteed that you will waste a lot of time looking for the tees for holes 3 (right by the picnic table), 7 (cross the road after 6), 8 (throwing straight at the river), 10 (follow the wood line north and it is tuked into the woods on the right, 11 keep following that woodline), 13 (cross the road and its atop the levee, look for two metal squares near the bend in the levee), 14 (climb the levee again and look for squares), 15 (same as 14, but throw through tunnel low or over trees), 16 (head into the woods on the right, marker on ground), 18 (in open back past the 15 basket, basket in woods on left), and 19 (cross road and its the one you almost mistakenly threw off after 5).
You're just not going to want to play this course unless it has been set up for a tournament, you are playing with a local, or you alread know it.
Gimmicks: There is some gimmicky OB in this course and prime offender number one is the abandoned tennis court on hole 20 (formerly hole 18). There is really no reason for that area to be OB, but it is.
Tortured use of the Levee. Holes 13, 14 and 15 all tee off from atop a levee. The tee are natural, mostely gravel, and have no tee signs. In addition to being almost impossible to find, repetitive use of the levee gets old. The levee also separates the park from some "interesting" neighborhoods. Don't let your disc go right.
There are some holes with no tee boxes. I count this as only minor becuase most of the holes without tee boxes are relatively short (with the exception of 13) requiring no run up.
Confusion. After hole 6, you must pass the hole 20 tee pad and cross the road to find the #7 tee pad. The #7 tee pad is oriented in such a way that can easily make you want to throw at the #9 basket. The #7 basket is actually on the left side of and near the roadway past and to the right of the large trees. Thereafter, the #8 tee box is unmarked and points directly at the river. The #8 basket is usually down near the water on the left, but the alternate position is across the boat ramp to the right . . . I.e., give yourself some extra time to play this course.
Other Thoughts: This course is well worth your time as is the Original Lazarre course in the same park. With some work on signs and tee markers I'd give another full point or more on this rating. Hopefully there will be an updated map added soon.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Easy to follow course with good tee pads and signage. Provides a nice challenge compared to the openness of the main course at lazarre. Stays nice and shady, and it requires every type of shot you can think of; blind shots. Mixes open and wooded well and uses elevation well. Plenty of signature holes that you'll remember. Bathroom on site and the park is clean.
Cons: Most baskets were rusted, and a few signs were missing/knocked over. A few tee pads were pretty slick, (not penalizing for natural tees on levy). A few hiccups navigating, but nothing major.
Other Thoughts: The park looks like it is mostly deserted and only sees DGers. We ran out of daylight, so I wasn't able to play the other course on site fully. We got onto this one because we couldn't find the fifth tee on main course. Overall, glad we played this one instead. It was a nice surprise that provided some challenge. It sort of reminded me of The Blair Witch Project course at Camenisch Park in Federal Heights, Colorado. A lot of the heavily wooded shots really make you thread the needle.
2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Decent place to play
Pros: The course plays through a sprawling park that's mostly flat, but uses a levee to add a little bit of elevation on a few holes, and a couple places where putts have the potential to roll away. This course has a better mix of wooded and open holes than the other course on site, with several holes playing through the woods or bringing them into play, adding a lot more variety and more lines to hit rather than just working on shot placement.
There's a decent mix of hole lengths out here, with some longer holes that let you open up a little bit. A few holes have some nice water hazards, always a plus to me when it adds in a good risk/reward opportunity. There are concrete pads, basic tee signs, and decent baskets on all holes.
Cons: There are some navigation issues, it's a little difficult to find the next tee at several places on the course, and there are some holes where the obvious basket isn't the one you are throwing to. A little better signage would help here. The road comes into play at times, which could be a safety issue. Many baskets showed some wear and rust, though they still caught fine.
Overall, the course makes pretty good use of the park, but with how flat and open most of the land is, it's hard not to have some repetitive feeling holes. The tees were pretty slick even when dry, it seemed like they would be pretty bad when wet (and it seems like this course is wet fairly often).
Other Thoughts: It's always great to have multiple courses in a single park. Of the two, this one is a little better, both in terms of challenge and variety. It's a little tough for most beginners, the original course might be a little more beginner friendly. This course isn't challenging enough to test the top players, but it's got some fun holes and some shots that make you work to hit your line.
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