a redesign worth visiting
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - level paver tee pads
- nice baskets
- variety of length and shot shaping
- alternate pin positions
- great elevation
- beautiful woods set off from a very nice multiuse park where the course is still quite private
- concession stand near hole 1 during the summer
- uses the best parts of the topography available while keeping a very easy flow for navigation
- fairways are always fair
Cons: Not a lot of cons here.
- some of the hiking through the course can be a bit difficult, but I certainly appreciate it.
- not terribly cart friendly with all the rocks throughout.
- first timers might have a couple tricky spots with navigation or which basket they are throwing to. Just bring the map on here. It is current. And they should have some at the kiosk there as well.
Other Thoughts: The course has some real charm and great wooded golf. I love that there are some original steady Ed holes left that really define the roots of the course, but ultimately the course plays to Today's standards of golf very well.
Hole 1 is a great opener that lets you air out a straight shot with a deceptive little elevation change
The old holes 2 and 3 were combined to make a much longer hole 2 that begs you to break out your biggest driver, but still requires you to maintain control and not anny out or hit any trees.
Hole 3 is super uphill straight shot that lets you know there will be some fun elevation here and that you are going to be winding through some serious woods.
Hole 4 is off to the right of 3 and has a sloping elevation left to right with a valley it's pretty neat and a little daunting with how tight it is, but I still think it is quite fair.
Hole 5 has you back track a tiny bit to the tee pad and is a nice anny shot with a basket that is on a hillside
Hole 7 was a great downhill kind of flex RHBH shot. Seemed like there were more lines that I wanted to explore as well
Hole 8 was really neat with the hillside. It goes up and then way down and to the right, but has a very nasty right to left slope early on that would cause for some serious bogeys
Hole 9 had the best basket placement with a long hyzer hole where the basket was perched on top of a huge boulder very close to the edge.
Hole 10 went from the top of 9's hill over the valley and up another hill. Distance felt a bit off from the sign, but I could have just stunk up the hole, lol. Nice FH and a nice gentle turnover route.
Hole 12 was a perfectly straight, slightly uphill, low ceiling shot that was an original steady Ed hole. Really fun interesting character that really isn't as easy as you would think.
13 has an awesome downhill shot off a drop off that you have to walk around to get off. Just beautiful golf here
14 is another short steady Ed hole that is short, but this time tight and downhill with a slightly guarded green
15 has a great hillside green on a hyzer lane
16 is a bomber hole that winds through a mostly flat fairway, but has some really fun gentle curves with multiple lanes available. Really great hole.
17 plays downhill with hyzer. Starts in the trees with 80% of the fairway in the middle an open field, but goes right back into the woods. Makes you think this short hole is easy, but really to get a 2 you need a precise throw
18 has an island green and is quite flat/open except for the green. Tables here could be problematic, but are very visable. Kinda sad way to end such a great course experience, but it gets you back where you started and it isn't terrible, just not up to the rest of the courses standards I feel.
All in all, it's a real shame this course is being held back by reviews of yore. The club here has done amazing things and really revitalized this course without taking away the original charm from it's routes. Just a stellar job here and I'd love to come back and throw it again.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: New layout over cliffs
New brick teepads
Easy to follow course
A little bit of a climb for walking
Other Thoughts: This course has made a significant turn around after Ryan, the course manager took over. New layouts and teepads made from brick. Its marked well and each hole is true to its hole information.
0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Worth a visit
Pros: - It is certainly very challenging. I usually play -5 or better a round and I was really happy about my -1 that I just got because of a Birdie on 18. Not sure if this is a plus for everyone, but I love courses where Par is a good score, and you don't have to play like -12 on 18 holes to consider it a good round. After all its Professional Average Score...
- Anyway, I liked the Tee Pads, they were absolutely NOT slippery, even though it was cold and had rained the days before and the shoes were muddy. Best Tee Pads except Järva that I had in my short "career"
- Even though the new tee signs on the secnd 9 werent put up yet I could nearly always find the new tee. That tells me that it is a nice flowing course rather than a 300' hole-500' walk course, which I like a lot
- The holes themselves were overall really nice, even though there were only the short pins up instead of long ones on a few holes, nice use of elevation as well, makes for some beautiful shots over small valleys or up to the basket on the rock on hole 9
Cons: - really not much cons, maybe that it gets a little slippery when it rained before, and as it is for a wooded course, lots of leaves during winter time, but thats nnot really much of a con
- maybe the "biggest" con is that the holes get "boring" towards the end of the round. you really have no drive that needs to be longer than 350', 18 is maybe the most diffierent hole from all the others with a more wide open fairway and just some larger trees. the rest is very wooded and always plays through tight gaps.
- I dont like "luck holes" with no real fairway like hole 2, but tahst basically the only luck hole i think. fairways are mostly tight but fair, if you get off the fairway better get your recovery game on
Other Thoughts: Well, I've been to the US for vacation and visitied NYC for 10 days. If you stay in central manhattan, this course is certainly worth a visit. Just hop into the northbound train at grand central and it takes you an hour (except if there is a track fire....man that sucked) to go to mt kisco station. from there 20 minutes of walking to the course. like halfway there you find a nice pizza, i thing it was something like maranella or so. make sure to get a slice of pizza there, best pizza i got while being in the US.
Make sure you have old shoes and some pants to get dirty, maybe even if it didn't rain the day(s) before. I liked the course a lot because at home we dont really have those tight wooded courses, they are mostly in a park with more open space. If you're used to wooded courses you might not find it that spectacular, but still - worth a visit i think.
Pros: Nice layout, heavily wooded. Makes for a nice challenge. Much nicer than wide open courses.
Cons: Need better signs at each tee box for the hole layout. (some don't have any) Certainly needs a better job in pointing the player in the correct direction between many of the holes. Fortunately was able to pickup a scorecard at the kiosk at the start. Without that may have not, or had a very difficult time locating the next tee box in some cases. A long walk between #17 and 18 and again nothing to point you in the right direction. #18 was odd as it played through a picnic area. Didn't realize there were more than 18 holes until reading reviews as I was writing this one.
Other Thoughts: When all the tee boxes are completed will be very nice. Surely would play this course again if I were in the area.
New Tee Boxes are excellent... now a excellent and fun course to check out.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a very old school course situated in a elevated area with almost all 18 holes being entirely inside the woods.
It looks like all the tees are are getting new tee boxes and some already have them installed. The new tee boxes look great (with brick patterns).
UPDATE (11/1/14): the new teepads are in! and are excellent. It looks like brick/terraform so its very grippy and confidence inducing during long run ups.
There are some great challenging/interesting holes (like hole 8 and 6 which play very long. And other holes which you have to throw up a large hill (looks to be at least 45ft high) or across a ravine.
UPDATE (11/1/14): they have combined holes 2 and 3 for a mega 500ft par 4 inside the dense woods. Its more open than it looks though and adds a nice long hole to this park which didn't seem possible since its 95% inside the thick forest.
The park has free parking and is actually located on a larger park that has many ball fields, nice public pool, and some pretty good sandwich shops/pizza slice places nearby.
The ball fields right next to the course is great to do some nice field practice work warm ups before a round.
UPDATE 11/1/14 - Since the new tee boxes are installed this park is definitely a 4.0 now. Its a great north east DG park with super technical wooded shots mixed in with some fun elevation holes (hole 3 where you throw upward on a 40ft high hill) and hole 8 where you throw down the the other side of the hill on a slight dog leg right.
Hole 13 is a fun one where you throw across a large ravine, where righties/LHFH throwers have to think twice about going wide or else it'll hit rock wall and roll all the way down.
Cons: as of 11/1/14 the new excellent brick/terraform tee boxes are in, but no permanent signage has been created. Its confusing because they combined holes 2 and three and the numbering on some of the old signs are now one off.
It was easy enough for me to figure it out since I've played the course before, but definitely confusing for new players. Fortunately there is a map on the WEDGE website of the new layout so if you have a smartphone just go to wedge (westchesterdiscgolf.com) and work from there.
if you're used to nicer courses with proper tee signage this might be a negative.
Other Thoughts: I played here for the 1st time and it was a tournament no less and had some extra time to run through the course quickly with just a putter an a midrange before the tournament started.
I actually scored better with just the putter and midrange running quickly to get in a round than my actual tournament with all my discs a little later... doh!
as of 11/1/14 I finally got to play this course again and since I knew a lot of the tricks and lines to take I scored a lot better than the monthly tournament I did when I was a total beginner. Its a fun course.
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Pros: Very friendly people who were out doing course work. Very natural and lots of elevation. Each hole was very unique from the next.
Cons: Signage and tee boxes could use a little work and updating. Def some muddy parts wear some old shoes when you go
Other Thoughts: very neat course only got about 9 holes in before we had to go but its enjoyable !
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Wooded Challenging Course
Pros: Challenging course with wooded and hilly fairways. On edge of the park away from main traffic areas so little interference from other park goers.
Cons: Course signage is weak or non-existent. Definitely need to take a map along. Lots of low lying areas that can be very muddy.
Other Thoughts: Use insect repellent as mosquitoes can be present.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Classic east coast course first designed by a legend. I like this course quite a bit. I almost didn't want to write about it because it is little hidden gem. Yes the holes are a little tough to follow first time around but it does have all new baskets and some new beautiful brick tees are going in. Great to see this classic course being upgraded. Nice changes of elevation. Mainly woods, with workable fairways. Also a couple a practice baskets are nice
Cons: Course layout is a little crazy. The 18th is a big hike from the first and parking lot. Also there is some garbage here and there. Pretty decent signage but it really deserves better, which it seems will be coming.
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Download Course Map
Other Thoughts: Not much to add to reviews other than what has already been mentioned other than the old baskets have been mostly updated with brand new baskets.
If you have never played Leonard Park before, make sure you bring the course map. I just uploaded it in the media section. Friday was the first time I have played the course and without the map I would never have found all the holes (specifically 15-18)
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
An Historic Gem
Pros: -A piece of disc golf history, designed by Ed Headrick in 1977. One of the first on the east coast.
-The baskets, which were very old and notorious for spitting out discs, are now being replaced. All but three or four holes are new, as of 9/15/13.
-There is also a new practice basket next to hole one, which is a welcome relief from the confidence destroying basket on a rocky slope that doubled as the hole 21/practice basket before.
-The easiest course to reach from Manhattan for those of us without cars. $23 round trip ticket on Metro-North to Mt. Kisco, grab a sandwich across the street at Cosi for between rounds, and take one of the cabs waiting at the train station to Leonard Park (tell him to take you back by the pool, then walk up the hill behind the pool for hole one) for only $5 plus tip. Get his card and call to pick you up when you're done.
-Very rarely have I ever had to wait on other players. Not at all a crowded course.
Cons: -tee pads are awful. If you need a runup to throw, this isn't your course. I throw from a standstill, and it still takes me a minute to find a spot that I feel comfortable throwing from.
-bathrooms are closed when the pool is closed, which is basically when it isn't summer.
-no water fountain.
-Holes 19, 20, 21 should be eliminated. These holes are awkward, and mar an otherwise fantastic short wooded course. They cross each other as well as other fairways, then share 14's basket, which is super annoying when you're about to tee off on 14 and see a disc come flying into your landing zone. 21 crosses a soccer and baseball field (which in summer are always full of people and unplayable anyway) just to get you back to the parking lot. As if you couldn't just walk back to the parking lot without throwing a disc. This hole especially should be eliminated. The course has a great character by being tight and wooded and technical, and it doesn't need the silly tack-on of long open field shots at the end.
-hikers often wander through.. not a big deal, but be aware.
-signage is negligible. Print out a map if you need.
Other Thoughts: This course isn't particularly friendly to first-timers.. few amenities, maps, signs.. no spacious concrete tee pads.. However, this course is full of great and deceptively challenging holes. 270' holes that play like 325', and 270' holes that play like 175'. This was the first course I played in the east, after being introduced to disc golf on the west coast (on the first permanent course Oak Grove in LA). It's been really interesting to play it over and over as I've progressed. I've probably played more than 50 rounds here, and still love trying to find the perfect shot on many holes. I regularly play Nockamixon, Tyler, Warwick, and Cranbury, and I believe that although those courses have more variety, this course rivals them in terms of challenging shot-making and line shaping. Old and new deciduous trees, boulders, and great elevation changes on every hole.
This course is technically short, but it won't feel like it. There are some ace runs (but almost always with a fast green behind to make you think twice), and all birdies have to be earned.
Hole 1 has a slight hill in front of it that can really affect you mentally (especially forehand), sloping up from the tee box and then levels off down a 200' fairway which opens into a large clearing around a beautiful old oak tree. The line makes a hard right turn at the clearing and the pin is about 50' to the right. A very tricky hole to birdie for backhanders, though there is a small route to cut the corner off the right turn and get under the basket.
Hole 2 is one of the longer par 3's at 339'. Nice variety of routes through a wide fairway then a good number of trees halfway to the pin.
Hole 3 is a 315' tunnel of terror. You can either nail your hyzer-flip and laser it down the very narrow fairway, or take your chances forehanding something off to the left into the relatively more open area and giving up on the birdie.
I won't go through the whole course, as there is a good earlier review that describes most of the other holes. I will add that the rough is punishing, but there is almost always an opportunity to save par with a stellar shot, and there are some blind holes where it's possible to lose a disc.. holes 8 and 9 particularly.
All 18 holes are wooded, and there are some very tight fairways, but there's always a way through.
In general, the beauty of this course is that the risk/reward is so balanced.. the more you play this course the more routes you see. There are many holes that have a safer route and a birdie/ace run route... try them both on multiple rounds.
If the tee pads, signs, and useless extra three holes were dealt with, this would easily be a 4.5 star course based on the quality of golf required alone. Hopefully that's underway in the "redesign" notice I saw on the new kiosk near hole one.. It's hard to imagine the 18 main holes altered in any other way.
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