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Hole #13 (Taken 6/2011)
Hole #13 Long Tee

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Reviews: 31
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Pros: Not one bad hole. Several holes that would be signature holes on any other course. Moderate elevation changes, tight but not ridiculously tight fairways. Some very long holes. Designed by a top pro (Jim Schultz) who knew what he was doing and it shows.
Cons: In a school zone so no alcohol, etc.
Other Thoughts: The pro tees are for advanced and better players. I have never played the shorts so I can't speak for them but they are way easier than the long tees. The Original 18 is the real course, 6 extras added as an after thought and not worthy of being associated with the original. This is a top 5 course for me, make no mistake, it's tough with disaster holes lurking if you can't control your disc flight. Several of the tight 400' holes are better played with an accurate midrange shot than a driver. Stay in the fairway or throw real far and stay near the fairway.
8 of 15 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Hardest course I've ever played. Challenging on every throw. Very fun to watch a sick drive hit the gap 350 feet away. Lot's of fun throws and beautiful lanes. Course covers a vast area making it a quiet course but it is a silent killer of drives. In my top 5 for sure.
Other Thoughts: Leviathon shorts are pretty much all ace runs but in comparison to longs they are rather bland. This course is Demanding to say the least. I beg for 50 more feet of distance on every drive. What a course, thank you God
6 of 16 people found this review helpful.
Played: 98 Reviewed: 9
Pros: Stunning course from the long tees, with long, fun, fair, creative holes.
Cons: Short tees seem to be an afterthought-- too dissimilar from the longs. Not nearly as fun. Long walks basket to tee. Mats are slippery.
Other Thoughts: I came to the area for one reason--to play the superb Flip City course in nearby Shelby. But since I was staying in Ludington, I decided to play the courses in town. What a wise decision. Leviathan from the longs is one of the most beautiful and challenging courses I have ever seen. The highest praise I can offer is this: although the previous reviewers are correct that many of the holes are long and tight, the fact is that each and every hole is fair. None of the fairways are the kind where you are picking your way through 5-foot gaps all the way down. These fairways make you think before you throw, a rare commodity in today's course design. In some spots, your best bet will be to throw a controlled mid-range from the tee as opposed to trying to crush a driver. Take what the course gives you and you will score well.
So don't be afraid to give the long tees a go. The photos don't do it justice. In fact, looking at the photo from 12's long tee might make you think that the hole is 800 feet of dense woods. In fact, once you carry the wooded ravine with your drive (250 feet will carry it-- no big deal), the hole opens up into a generous landing area, with several options for your second drive to the green.
From the short tees, the course is ok--just nothing special. And it appears that the course was designed in the longs and the shorts were added in later, because the walks from basket to tee are murder in some places (you are basically just walking up the long fairway to reach the short tee anyway, so why not just throw from the longs?).
Also, don't be fooled by the course's humble beginnings--the first few hole are just ok--give it a chance, and once you hit the middle and late holes you will see what I mean.
Another reason not to use the short tees is that they have the rubber mats. Since the course is so close to Lake Michigan, there is sand everywhere, and it fills in the grooves on the mats and makes them slick.
Whoever designed the course, or at least the longs, should seriously consider a true set of am tees (if money allows), and leave the current short tees for beginners.
So don't be afraid to give the long tees a go. The photos don't do it justice. In fact, looking at the photo from 12's long tee might make you think that the hole is 800 feet of dense woods. In fact, once you carry the wooded ravine with your drive (250 feet will carry it-- no big deal), the hole opens up into a generous landing area, with several options for your second drive to the green.
From the short tees, the course is ok--just nothing special. And it appears that the course was designed in the longs and the shorts were added in later, because the walks from basket to tee are murder in some places (you are basically just walking up the long fairway to reach the short tee anyway, so why not just throw from the longs?).
Also, don't be fooled by the course's humble beginnings--the first few hole are just ok--give it a chance, and once you hit the middle and late holes you will see what I mean.
Another reason not to use the short tees is that they have the rubber mats. Since the course is so close to Lake Michigan, there is sand everywhere, and it fills in the grooves on the mats and makes them slick.
Whoever designed the course, or at least the longs, should seriously consider a true set of am tees (if money allows), and leave the current short tees for beginners.
12 of 14 people found this review helpful.
Pros: I love this course. It is so challenging. Tight holes that are super long. Shorter birdie holes but that still arent gimmie holes. Pads are great. Navigation is simple. Fairways are very clean and beautiful. Walks between holes are not long but long enough to make you really enjoy the gorgeous setting of this course. Elevation changes and narrow(ish) fairways on long holes (630-800+) reward placement tremendously as a shanked drive will at least give you a high score but probably a lost disc.
Cons: The rough is very unforgiving. I wished I lived closer.
Other Thoughts: The pro tees should be played by advanced players because a beginner would not enjoy shooting the pro tees; so shoot ams if you are not up to the challenge this course presents.
7 of 13 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Most difficult course ever.
Beautiful Terrain and foliage.
Every single drive required extreme accuracy, and distance.
Short tees appeared to be very fun with lots of ace runs.
Many drives with elevated tee pads over dense forest and fern plants.
Great use of elevation and terrain, with course pretty well marked for navigation.
Cement tee pads are always a good thing.
Practice area by parking lot.
Score cards provided.
Tight, Long, Difficult, Awesome, Michigan Discgolf at its best.
Beautiful Terrain and foliage.
Every single drive required extreme accuracy, and distance.
Short tees appeared to be very fun with lots of ace runs.
Many drives with elevated tee pads over dense forest and fern plants.
Great use of elevation and terrain, with course pretty well marked for navigation.
Cement tee pads are always a good thing.
Practice area by parking lot.
Score cards provided.
Tight, Long, Difficult, Awesome, Michigan Discgolf at its best.
Cons: Bugs were pretty bad, and we were there early in the morning.
Some signs could be better to help transition between holes.
Some Tee pad signs could be a bit better, because you can't see the basket on a 800 ft par 4 uphill through the woods. We had to walk up many of the holes to figure out where the baskets were before we played the holes.
Some signs could be better to help transition between holes.
Some Tee pad signs could be a bit better, because you can't see the basket on a 800 ft par 4 uphill through the woods. We had to walk up many of the holes to figure out where the baskets were before we played the holes.
Other Thoughts: Didn't have time to play the course from both sets of tees, maybe next time. If you are ever in this area to play Flip City, or Mason County Park you have to make time to get over and see this course it was so worth it.
9 of 11 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Challenging course, regardlss of your skill. Cement pads throughout. Well kept and not too far out of Ludington. Definitely worth checking out.
Cons: A lot of woods, the thickness of the woods makes it easy to lose a disc.
4 of 13 people found this review helpful.
Played: 105 Reviewed: 55 Exp: 9.1 Years
Pros:
Hole Variety/Course Layout--
For sure a "tech" course. Alot of tight woods. The difference between the Am and Pro tees are greater than any other setup ive seen. If you play from the am tees you play a semi-short decent tech course, but if you play the pro tees (which should be renamed " Expert tees") you will find one of the most challenging courses you've ever played!
Course Atmosphere--
Up north feel, a little closer to town than mason county park though.
Course Maintenance--
Clean, im sure theres someone who goes around and tends to it based on what I saw. There are concrete tee pads on every hole.
Course Navigation--
Pretty easy to follow, no spots that will really confuse you.
Hole Variety/Course Layout--
For sure a "tech" course. Alot of tight woods. The difference between the Am and Pro tees are greater than any other setup ive seen. If you play from the am tees you play a semi-short decent tech course, but if you play the pro tees (which should be renamed " Expert tees") you will find one of the most challenging courses you've ever played!
Course Atmosphere--
Up north feel, a little closer to town than mason county park though.
Course Maintenance--
Clean, im sure theres someone who goes around and tends to it based on what I saw. There are concrete tee pads on every hole.
Course Navigation--
Pretty easy to follow, no spots that will really confuse you.
Cons:
Hazards--
Playing from the pro tee there is some thick woods on the edges. Its set up in a way that makes it easy to lose a disc, due to both how far you have to throw and how thick it can be in spots.
Hazards--
Playing from the pro tee there is some thick woods on the edges. Its set up in a way that makes it easy to lose a disc, due to both how far you have to throw and how thick it can be in spots.
Other Thoughts:
--This is one of the hardest courses ive played, this makes it a pro but at the same time it can make it a con because some holes are overwellming.
Pay to Play--
$1
--This is one of the hardest courses ive played, this makes it a pro but at the same time it can make it a con because some holes are overwellming.
Pay to Play--
$1
16 of 20 people found this review helpful.
Pros: The difference from Pro to Am tees makes this like 2 courses in one,very challenging and a lot of fun,clean course with nice benches on almost every hole,nice porta pottie,great mix of holes short to long open to tight left to right you will need every shot you have,practice baskets,course goes through rolling hills with many elevated tees,lots of birdie and ACE chances get them when you can there is some long holes,
Cons: Newer course still a little rough around the edges should break in though,rubber am tees puddle up and become very slippery,small parking lot get there early for a tournament or you may be walking to the course from a parking lot down the street,
Other Thoughts: $1 donation required definitely worth it,played doubles here with the local players everyone was really nice and helpful,
11 of 12 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Scenic northern michigan course, a lot of tight technical holes, yet enough open space to keep you from getting too frustrated. Elevation changes and good variety. Mostly clean and well cared for. Creative hole design for a course that is mostly in the woods.
Cons: Pro tees are tough to say the least. If you can throw in the 400 ft range, and do it accurately through the trees, then you might enjoy the two 800 ft holes on this course, but otherwise, you might want to stick to the 'am tees' if you want to enjoy your visit to this park. Overall, my impression was that this park isn't all that much different from other 'better than average' northern michigan 'woods courses', like, say Big Rapids, or Fremont.
Other Thoughts: Disclaimer: On our initial visit, we played the 'pro tees' on the 2nd through 11th holes, and then switched to the 'am tees' for the remainder of the course. Probably would have enjoyed the course more, if we'd played the 'am tees' from the start. The $1 donation at the front gate wasn't so bad, and score cards at the information booth were a nice touch, but a map would be a nice addition to the score cards.
11 of 11 people found this review helpful.
Played: 53 Reviewed: 40 Exp: 5 Years
Pros: CHALLENGING and fun, fun, fun. Pro tees that are "truly" pro tees. Easy access from downtown Ludington. Super laid back feel through Michigan's nature.
-elevation changes galore
-holes that will make you decide the risk/reward factor with the risk being a completely lost disc
-one of the best laid out courses I have ever played.
-the pros and ams make the course feel like two completely diff courses
-elevation changes galore
-holes that will make you decide the risk/reward factor with the risk being a completely lost disc
-one of the best laid out courses I have ever played.
-the pros and ams make the course feel like two completely diff courses
Cons: -Too many signs at entrance, some threatening to non-dollar-payers. Disc golf should have a relaxed feel.
-mixed tees. cement/rubber/small/large
-mixed tees. cement/rubber/small/large
Other Thoughts: If Satan and Paul Bunyon had a kid and he designed a disc golf course, this would be it! Below reviewer nailed my thoughts exactly. Actually was afraid to play some of the pro tees for the first time in my disc golf playing. Par 4 for 805ft through the woods? Really? Hole 10, and especially 12, will test your disc golfing "balls". Elevated drives over ferns and brush with blind landings. I end up playing the AM tee on 12 every time. Intimidating to say the least. You will also hit more wood than Pan Anderson at an 80's hair metal reunion party.
A great change of pace from the Beauty/Beast courses further south of Ludington.
UPDATED:8.17.8 Raised my ranking of the course based on the supreme challenge it offers.
A great change of pace from the Beauty/Beast courses further south of Ludington.
UPDATED:8.17.8 Raised my ranking of the course based on the supreme challenge it offers.
13 of 14 people found this review helpful.
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