What a duet.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Loved the tee signs. Really liked most of the holes. A great mix of challenges. 17 is a blast. Like 18 as a finishing hole. Birdie chance with water to bring some danger. Flows well. Fun rounds!
Cons: Footing can be an issue. Limited hours. A couple of slick tees. The new number 9 is a really bad idea. Bad tee, right behind 8 basket. Bad flow. Bad pin right off #1 fairway. Be better and safer to play from the old tee.
Other Thoughts: This heavily wooded course will make you play all sorts of shots. You have to make some precise throws, however, if you miss the lane, sometimes you can dig yourself out.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Welcome to the jungle.
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: The course is located at a winery which is kind of neat. The hanging basket on 17 is pretty cool. If you play here a lot you will get good at making shots around trees. You will be in the shade most of your round.
Cons: Most of the course is in the woods which can really affect your game as you just let your drive fly and hope it makes it through the trees. Limited hours of operation. Sneakers or hiking shoes are a must as it is very hilly and rocky at some places. Hole #10 borders some neighbors land with a fence and if your disc goes over it is lost.
Other Thoughts: Nice course which I will probably play when it is open as it is closest to my house. Most of the holes are pretty short but that does not mean it is easy as you have to navigate around all those trees. Pond in play on 2 holes so bring some floater discs.
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I was told by the owner that I could play anytime unless it was dark which goes against other comments I've read on limited hours. I've been back a number of times on different days and times and I've never had a problem or had anyone chase me off.
It's great exercise walking up the down the hills and I'm usually tired when I'm finished. I guess this could be a con for some people but I see it as a plus.
It challenging because there are a lot of trees to go around. Sometimes you rely of luck as much as skill to get your disc far on certain holes. While your discs may get beat up a bit, your accuracy will definitely (eventually) improve by playing here.
On sunny days you get to play almost entirely in the shade. That's a big plus for those of us with fair skin. The trees are also nice protection on an overcast day when some slight rain could come into play as you'll be well covered.
The hanging basket is nice alternative to mix it up.
95% shaded which is nice on very sunny and even slightly rainy days.
There's a winery...a nice way to end your game.
Cons: The trees....holy crap are there a lot of then. You can always tell if there's someone else on the course somewhere by the familiar "thunk" of someone's disc being eaten by a tree somewhere. Sometimes you just want a nice long green field to throw over and there are none here.
The first time I visited, the pond was a weird blue color which I guess is contain water weeds or algea but I put a disc in there and it was gone with zero chance of finding it. Since then it's a regular murky pond color put it's deep so use a floating disc if you're not very accurate.
The baskets aren't marked with a number so sometimes I had a hard time figuring out to which basket I should be throwing (though I figured it out). After playing the course a few times this isn't a problem however the baskets have very little, if any, color on them to locate them from the tee. It can be tough seeing them against the dull brown/grey forest in the dim light, especially on an overcast day.
#9 basket...if you don't get out of the woods quickly then the pond becomes an issue as I find myself having to lay up to avoid sending my discs swimming. I've had some of my worst scores on #9.
I guess I'll mention the hills here too, they can be tough if you show up to the course already tired or out of shape. And once you're finished with #18 you get the nice long climb up the stairs to get back to the parking lot.
Other Thoughts: Overall, I really like the course but it is challenging with so many trees. You will improve your accuracy playing here so that's a great thing but until then you'll be challenged to throw well with the right disc. I find that I can bring a small bag here since I don't need anything that travels too long distance. I can comfortably get away with just one putter, three mid-range (1 floating), and two fairways (1 floating).
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 2 Not
venatus quod vinum
Even w/o a map, a cinch to navigate, having a fairly natural flow with short/obvious walks to the next tee, and with an arrow at each basket also pointing you in the proper direction.
Hand-painted teesigns provide a very nice touch, in keeping with the character of the site
Single tee/basket position.
Limited hours of access - check their webpage before making the trek.
Course plays up, down, and across a thickly-wooded, moderately-steep slope, and small bits of open space, behind/below the very funky (check out the bathroom in the wine-tasting area) buildings forming the Long Trout Winery. Hard-soled shoes are advised, as the ground has very thin soil, so there is lots of gray stone to tread upon, and tree roots as well. The ferns growing in scattered places beneath the thick canopy add to the ambiance.
A good mixture of right/lefts/straights will be needed off the tee, but errant shots aren't punished too severely, as the trees, though plentiful, are scattered - some type of reasonable recovery shot will typically be available. Initial/mid flightpaths tend to be fair, with an optimum window to hit, but a few of the holes, typically nearing the basket, tend to have a shotgun-spray of trees, making the luck-v-skill ratio a bit high. While not a course for bombers, it plays longer than the average ~250' length, as the required turns and up-slope shots increase distances.
Course consists of two nine-hole loops. The first loop starts beneath the back corner of a building, and proceeds in roughly a clockwise fashion, with basket nine at the far end of the ornamental pond. From basket nine, you walk along the backside of the pond to find tee-10, and the latter half of the course plays in a counterclockwise fashion. This has the effect of fairways 7-9 roughly paralleling fairways 15-18.
Tees are mixed - some are ground-level frames containing rough gravel, others, are raised, wooden platforms. Teesigns are good, although they sometimes tend to exaggerate the amount of turn needed. Baskets are single-chained, but with deep baskets. Can be hard to see from the tee at times, as the flags placed upon the top of them are a bit faded,
Hole-17 is fun - two large hardwoods, and the split-rail fence in front of them, form a challenging-but-fair mando about 100' from the tee. The basket is about another 100', hanging down from the eaves of the entrance to a faux barn.
Hole-9 potentially brings the small pond into play (rake provided). A safer-but-less-direct route from the tee is to throw towards a small early gap to the right.
One of the more unique sites I've visited to play a course, and I'm glad I made a bit of a detour to play it.
8 of 10 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Wine and Disc Golf? sign me up!
Pros: ITS A WINERY AND A DISC GOLF COURSE. very challenging. standing on the first teepad, look around. you will be batting the hills, and dealing with that pond in the coming round. ENJOY IT. and if the first 9 upset you, drink a bottle of wine before you tackle the back 9. the barn basket is legend and an ace-run. great use of terrain, L-R, R-L, uphill, downhill...etc. very creative teesigns
Cons: Dont expect to have clean run-ups. the gravel tees are uneven, and awkward. some tees have wooden platforms, but usually throw downhill, where a run-up isnt required. safety is a large concern. hole 9 especially. you are in the flightpath for hole 8. there are a few fairways that are damn-near shared. there are quite a few trees that can certainly come out, as you will not find a "fairway" on a few holes.
Other Thoughts: i cant stop coming back t this place. wine and disc golf. this is a great winery, and a VERY challenging and enjoyable disc golf course.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Near the top of my list.
5 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Descriptive tee signs and all the tees line up nicely with the fairways. Arrows point you to the next tee.
Uphills, downhills, L to R, R to L...you will have to play a lot of your shots and probably improvise a few along the way.
As others noted, creative basket locations and hole design.
A course that is very narrow, but there is usually a way to get out in the fairway. Fun design, it will challenge just about anyone, but won't discourage new players too much.
Cons: A few of the holes need more definition. Losing just a few trees would create needed flight paths without changing the nature of the course.
It is rocky, but as anyone who hikes in this area knows, this is just the nature of the beast along this stretch of the Appalachians.
Other Thoughts: I am not a big fan of mandos. IMHO they often
seem a simple way to avoid good course design, but the mando to the hanging basket on 17 is an exception.
Well worth the drive!
5 of 8 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 8 Not
Huge Dead Koi Fish
Pros: Hole 17's hanging basket is pretty awesome. This course can challenge your hyzers and anhyzers.
Cons: Almost every hole on this course is tight and heavily wooded. I was also disappointed in the #15 tee sign not marking the unit of measurement.
Other Thoughts: If you happen to go to the course after a huge flood be expected to find an enormous dead koi fish laying in the drain. Besides the koi fish they have a monstrous dog & creepy little animal manikins around the course.
3 of 11 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 5 Not
fun course, great wine
Pros: good use of elevation, guide signs help direct around the course, free, challenging, unique hole (basket) #17
Cons: number 15 tee sign does not have a tick mark feet after the number. other than that this course was fantabulous.
Other Thoughts: It is a nice course with a friendly atmosphere. A good course to start on as a first time player. the lake is risky and challenging
2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 2 Not
Wine & Disc Golf
Pros: A winery with a disc golf course! I would give the course a 2.5 but having a winery bumps it up a half point. It is mostly heavily wooded and has a nice use of elevation.
- water hazards used
- unique hanging basket
- private, secluded, & free
- hand made tee signs
- short yet challenging
Cons: There are limited days and times you may play: Wed. 6-9 pm, Sat. 1-7 pm, Sun. 11 am-5 pm.
- tightly wooded becomes monotonous
- tough terrain...come prepared
- some tee areas get slick
Other Thoughts: Overall, the place is very enjoyable. The combination of a winery and a DG course really appealed to me. The wine will help you forget all those trees your disc hit!
5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
17 Helpful / 2 Not
A Bottle of Woods with a Side of Woods
Pros: Long Trout Winery is a unique and secluded course nestled in the PA woods. Positive aspects of the course include a variety of elevation, from flat to quite hilly. The course also featured a solid mix of left, right, and straight fairways. Water hazards added some variety and were present on numerous holes and incorporated streams and a pond.
This course is very rocky and almost completely wooded. In fact, many holes are quite heavily wooded indeed (but see cons below). Fairways such as those at Long Trout require low, accurate throws or risk a potentially punishing recovery. In addition to the volume of trees there were also several bamboo groves, which was a nice touch.
The baskets were in good condition and several holes featured multiple pin positions. This includes the famous "barn hole" where the fairway ends at a hanging basket at the front of a barn. With so few hanging baskets in the disc golf world, this one added some novelty, interest, and increased the enjoyment factor (but see cons below).
The tee signs were another nice touch. The signs were hand-painted and displayed distance, par, and possible throwing lines.
Oh, and did I mention that the course is located at a winery? Great round? Time to celebrate. Bad round? Drown your sorrows. Win-win.
Cons: Many holes had a feel that they weren't designed, per se, but more that they were using whatever lanes happend to be visible when the course was installed. Several holes felt like the tee and basket were dropped in as a place holder between two other fairways (see other thoughts). For the most part, every hole could be thinned somewhat without losing the accuracy requirements. Even on the most wide-open hole of the course, there is a double-mando that limits the ability to just grip 'n rip (if your throws aren't accurate). Another negative to the layout is that most holes are under 300'. If you need to focus on tight throws along clean lines, this course is great, but if you want to bomb a disc, this isn't the course for you.
The natural tees are boxed off and can get muddy. The elevated tee pads can be slick and dangerous. Some no-slip tape would do wonders to improve the saftey.
Even though the course isn't very far from I-78, Long Trout Winer is still in the middle of nowhere PA and has a bit of a "Deliverance" feel. Further exasperating this situation are the paranoid, over-protective neighbors that have not only fenced off their property, but have installed security cameras and prosecute anyone that crosses the property line to retrieve a lost disc. In this regard, if you lose any plastic over the fence, consider it GONE.
Although multiple baskets and the hanging barn baskets are a pro, retrieving your disc from the upper barn basket is a dicey experience. Getting to the upper level requires you to walk through a dark, unlit barn that is messy, dirty, and has boxes and other junk lying around and takes away from the appeal of the unique basket.
Other Thoughts: Long Trout Winery is a unique course. The word on the street is that course was installed from start to finish in two days. This is, no doubt, a great accomplishment, but the haste of the installation shows through in the volume of trees and the few afterthought holes that dot the course. If some of the layout and saftey issues could be addressed, Long Trout could easily bump up a half disc rating. All criticizms aside, it's still a challenging and enjoyable course. If you happen to be in the area, give it a try and treat yourself to some vino after your round.
17 of 19 people found this review helpful.
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