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Hole #4 (Taken 5/2011)
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venatus quod vinum
Pros:
Even w/o a map, a cinch to navigate, having a fairly natural flow with short/obvious walks to the next tee, and with an arrow at each basket also pointing you in the proper direction.
Hand-painted teesigns provide a very nice touch, in keeping with the character of the site
Even w/o a map, a cinch to navigate, having a fairly natural flow with short/obvious walks to the next tee, and with an arrow at each basket also pointing you in the proper direction.
Hand-painted teesigns provide a very nice touch, in keeping with the character of the site
Cons:
Single tee/basket position.
Limited hours of access - check their webpage before making the trek.
Single tee/basket position.
Limited hours of access - check their webpage before making the trek.
Other Thoughts:
Course plays up, down, and across a thickly-wooded, moderately-steep slope, and small bits of open space, behind/below the very funky (check out the bathroom in the wine-tasting area) buildings forming the Long Trout Winery. Hard-soled shoes are advised, as the ground has very thin soil, so there is lots of gray stone to tread upon, and tree roots as well. The ferns growing in scattered places beneath the thick canopy add to the ambiance.
A good mixture of right/lefts/straights will be needed off the tee, but errant shots aren't punished too severely, as the trees, though plentiful, are scattered - some type of reasonable recovery shot will typically be available. Initial/mid flightpaths tend to be fair, with an optimum window to hit, but a few of the holes, typically nearing the basket, tend to have a shotgun-spray of trees, making the luck-v-skill ratio a bit high. While not a course for bombers, it plays longer than the average ~250' length, as the required turns and up-slope shots increase distances.
Course consists of two nine-hole loops. The first loop starts beneath the back corner of a building, and proceeds in roughly a clockwise fashion, with basket nine at the far end of the ornamental pond. From basket nine, you walk along the backside of the pond to find tee-10, and the latter half of the course plays in a counterclockwise fashion. This has the effect of fairways 7-9 roughly paralleling fairways 15-18.
Tees are mixed - some are ground-level frames containing rough gravel, others, are raised, wooden platforms. Teesigns are good, although they sometimes tend to exaggerate the amount of turn needed. Baskets are single-chained, but with deep baskets. Can be hard to see from the tee at times, as the flags placed upon the top of them are a bit faded,
Hole-17 is fun - two large hardwoods, and the split-rail fence in front of them, form a challenging-but-fair mando about 100' from the tee. The basket is about another 100', hanging down from the eaves of the entrance to a faux barn.
Hole-9 potentially brings the small pond into play (rake provided). A safer-but-less-direct route from the tee is to throw towards a small early gap to the right.
One of the more unique sites I've visited to play a course, and I'm glad I made a bit of a detour to play it.
Course plays up, down, and across a thickly-wooded, moderately-steep slope, and small bits of open space, behind/below the very funky (check out the bathroom in the wine-tasting area) buildings forming the Long Trout Winery. Hard-soled shoes are advised, as the ground has very thin soil, so there is lots of gray stone to tread upon, and tree roots as well. The ferns growing in scattered places beneath the thick canopy add to the ambiance.
A good mixture of right/lefts/straights will be needed off the tee, but errant shots aren't punished too severely, as the trees, though plentiful, are scattered - some type of reasonable recovery shot will typically be available. Initial/mid flightpaths tend to be fair, with an optimum window to hit, but a few of the holes, typically nearing the basket, tend to have a shotgun-spray of trees, making the luck-v-skill ratio a bit high. While not a course for bombers, it plays longer than the average ~250' length, as the required turns and up-slope shots increase distances.
Course consists of two nine-hole loops. The first loop starts beneath the back corner of a building, and proceeds in roughly a clockwise fashion, with basket nine at the far end of the ornamental pond. From basket nine, you walk along the backside of the pond to find tee-10, and the latter half of the course plays in a counterclockwise fashion. This has the effect of fairways 7-9 roughly paralleling fairways 15-18.
Tees are mixed - some are ground-level frames containing rough gravel, others, are raised, wooden platforms. Teesigns are good, although they sometimes tend to exaggerate the amount of turn needed. Baskets are single-chained, but with deep baskets. Can be hard to see from the tee at times, as the flags placed upon the top of them are a bit faded,
Hole-17 is fun - two large hardwoods, and the split-rail fence in front of them, form a challenging-but-fair mando about 100' from the tee. The basket is about another 100', hanging down from the eaves of the entrance to a faux barn.
Hole-9 potentially brings the small pond into play (rake provided). A safer-but-less-direct route from the tee is to throw towards a small early gap to the right.
One of the more unique sites I've visited to play a course, and I'm glad I made a bit of a detour to play it.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: ITS A WINERY AND A DISC GOLF COURSE. very challenging. standing on the first teepad, look around. you will be batting the hills, and dealing with that pond in the coming round. ENJOY IT. and if the first 9 upset you, drink a bottle of wine before you tackle the back 9. the barn basket is legend and an ace-run. great use of terrain, L-R, R-L, uphill, downhill...etc. very creative teesigns
Cons: Dont expect to have clean run-ups. the gravel tees are uneven, and awkward. some tees have wooden platforms, but usually throw downhill, where a run-up isnt required. safety is a large concern. hole 9 especially. you are in the flightpath for hole 8. there are a few fairways that are damn-near shared. there are quite a few trees that can certainly come out, as you will not find a "fairway" on a few holes.
Other Thoughts: i cant stop coming back t this place. wine and disc golf. this is a great winery, and a VERY challenging and enjoyable disc golf course.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Near the top of my list.
5+ 
1/15/2013 
11/20/2011
Review By: Gerry Played: 12 Reviewed: 11 Exp: 1.8 Years
This review was updated on 3/6/2013
Pros: Descriptive tee signs and all the tees line up nicely with the fairways. Arrows point you to the next tee.
Uphills, downhills, L to R, R to L...you will have to play a lot of your shots and probably improvise a few along the way.
As others noted, creative basket locations and hole design.
A course that is very narrow, but there is usually a way to get out in the fairway. Fun design, it will challenge just about anyone, but won't discourage new players too much.
Uphills, downhills, L to R, R to L...you will have to play a lot of your shots and probably improvise a few along the way.
As others noted, creative basket locations and hole design.
A course that is very narrow, but there is usually a way to get out in the fairway. Fun design, it will challenge just about anyone, but won't discourage new players too much.
Cons: A few of the holes need more definition. Losing just a few trees would create needed flight paths without changing the nature of the course.
It is rocky, but as anyone who hikes in this area knows, this is just the nature of the beast along this stretch of the Appalachians.
It is rocky, but as anyone who hikes in this area knows, this is just the nature of the beast along this stretch of the Appalachians.
Other Thoughts: I am not a big fan of mandos. IMHO they often
seem a simple way to avoid good course design, but the mando to the hanging basket on 17 is an exception.
Well worth the drive!
seem a simple way to avoid good course design, but the mando to the hanging basket on 17 is an exception.
Well worth the drive!
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Huge Dead Koi Fish
Pros: Hole 17's hanging basket is pretty awesome. This course can challenge your hyzers and anhyzers.
Cons: Almost every hole on this course is tight and heavily wooded. I was also disappointed in the #15 tee sign not marking the unit of measurement.
Other Thoughts: If you happen to go to the course after a huge flood be expected to find an enormous dead koi fish laying in the drain. Besides the koi fish they have a monstrous dog & creepy little animal manikins around the course.
1 of 8 people found this review helpful.
fun course, great wine
2-4 10/8/2011 10/8/2011
Review By: big cat Played: 5 Reviewed: 3 Exp: 1.6 Years
This review was updated on 10/18/2011
Pros: good use of elevation, guide signs help direct around the course, free, challenging, unique hole (basket) #17
Cons: number 15 tee sign does not have a tick mark feet after the number. other than that this course was fantabulous.
Other Thoughts: It is a nice course with a friendly atmosphere. A good course to start on as a first time player. the lake is risky and challenging
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Wine & Disc Golf
Pros: A winery with a disc golf course! I would give the course a 2.5 but having a winery bumps it up a half point. It is mostly heavily wooded and has a nice use of elevation.
Other Pros:
- water hazards used
- unique hanging basket
- private, secluded, & free
- hand made tee signs
- short yet challenging
Other Pros:
- water hazards used
- unique hanging basket
- private, secluded, & free
- hand made tee signs
- short yet challenging
Cons: There are limited days and times you may play: Wed. 6-9 pm, Sat. 1-7 pm, Sun. 11 am-5 pm.
Other Cons:
- tightly wooded becomes monotonous
- tough terrain...come prepared
- some tee areas get slick
Other Cons:
- tightly wooded becomes monotonous
- tough terrain...come prepared
- some tee areas get slick
Other Thoughts: Overall, the place is very enjoyable. The combination of a winery and a DG course really appealed to me. The wine will help you forget all those trees your disc hit!
3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
A Bottle of Woods with a Side of Woods 
Pros: Long Trout Winery is a unique and secluded course nestled in the PA woods. Positive aspects of the course include a variety of elevation, from flat to quite hilly. The course also featured a solid mix of left, right, and straight fairways. Water hazards added some variety and were present on numerous holes and incorporated streams and a pond.
This course is very rocky and almost completely wooded. In fact, many holes are quite heavily wooded indeed (but see cons below). Fairways such as those at Long Trout require low, accurate throws or risk a potentially punishing recovery. In addition to the volume of trees there were also several bamboo groves, which was a nice touch.
The baskets were in good condition and several holes featured multiple pin positions. This includes the famous "barn hole" where the fairway ends at a hanging basket at the front of a barn. With so few hanging baskets in the disc golf world, this one added some novelty, interest, and increased the enjoyment factor (but see cons below).
The tee signs were another nice touch. The signs were hand-painted and displayed distance, par, and possible throwing lines.
Oh, and did I mention that the course is located at a winery? Great round? Time to celebrate. Bad round? Drown your sorrows. Win-win.
This course is very rocky and almost completely wooded. In fact, many holes are quite heavily wooded indeed (but see cons below). Fairways such as those at Long Trout require low, accurate throws or risk a potentially punishing recovery. In addition to the volume of trees there were also several bamboo groves, which was a nice touch.
The baskets were in good condition and several holes featured multiple pin positions. This includes the famous "barn hole" where the fairway ends at a hanging basket at the front of a barn. With so few hanging baskets in the disc golf world, this one added some novelty, interest, and increased the enjoyment factor (but see cons below).
The tee signs were another nice touch. The signs were hand-painted and displayed distance, par, and possible throwing lines.
Oh, and did I mention that the course is located at a winery? Great round? Time to celebrate. Bad round? Drown your sorrows. Win-win.
Cons: Many holes had a feel that they weren't designed, per se, but more that they were using whatever lanes happend to be visible when the course was installed. Several holes felt like the tee and basket were dropped in as a place holder between two other fairways (see other thoughts). For the most part, every hole could be thinned somewhat without losing the accuracy requirements. Even on the most wide-open hole of the course, there is a double-mando that limits the ability to just grip 'n rip (if your throws aren't accurate). Another negative to the layout is that most holes are under 300'. If you need to focus on tight throws along clean lines, this course is great, but if you want to bomb a disc, this isn't the course for you.
The natural tees are boxed off and can get muddy. The elevated tee pads can be slick and dangerous. Some no-slip tape would do wonders to improve the saftey.
Even though the course isn't very far from I-78, Long Trout Winer is still in the middle of nowhere PA and has a bit of a "Deliverance" feel. Further exasperating this situation are the paranoid, over-protective neighbors that have not only fenced off their property, but have installed security cameras and prosecute anyone that crosses the property line to retrieve a lost disc. In this regard, if you lose any plastic over the fence, consider it GONE.
Although multiple baskets and the hanging barn baskets are a pro, retrieving your disc from the upper barn basket is a dicey experience. Getting to the upper level requires you to walk through a dark, unlit barn that is messy, dirty, and has boxes and other junk lying around and takes away from the appeal of the unique basket.
The natural tees are boxed off and can get muddy. The elevated tee pads can be slick and dangerous. Some no-slip tape would do wonders to improve the saftey.
Even though the course isn't very far from I-78, Long Trout Winer is still in the middle of nowhere PA and has a bit of a "Deliverance" feel. Further exasperating this situation are the paranoid, over-protective neighbors that have not only fenced off their property, but have installed security cameras and prosecute anyone that crosses the property line to retrieve a lost disc. In this regard, if you lose any plastic over the fence, consider it GONE.
Although multiple baskets and the hanging barn baskets are a pro, retrieving your disc from the upper barn basket is a dicey experience. Getting to the upper level requires you to walk through a dark, unlit barn that is messy, dirty, and has boxes and other junk lying around and takes away from the appeal of the unique basket.
Other Thoughts: Long Trout Winery is a unique course. The word on the street is that course was installed from start to finish in two days. This is, no doubt, a great accomplishment, but the haste of the installation shows through in the volume of trees and the few afterthought holes that dot the course. If some of the layout and saftey issues could be addressed, Long Trout could easily bump up a half disc rating. All criticizms aside, it's still a challenging and enjoyable course. If you happen to be in the area, give it a try and treat yourself to some vino after your round.
16 of 17 people found this review helpful.
great fun course but challenge
Pros: The woods and I mean woods well really help people learn to control their throws and how to navigate through tight areas. The baskets are all marked well and so are the signs leading u to the next tee...
Cons: The woods is also a con as far as for beginners it could be discouraging and u could really tear up some plastic. Be warned if you throw wild u well bear up ur plastic.. the first couple of baskets are around a lot of large rocks so if u miss and u well ur disc may get beat up....
Other Thoughts: Its a must go to course.. I plan on going back as many times as I can ... and I also an on tasting some of their wine....
1 of 7 people found this review helpful.
woods and more woods 
Pros: The very idea of a DG course and winery on the same property is very cool. Free wine samles. Free private course to play. Good directional arrows on each basket pointing you towards the next tee. White painted rock piles at the base of some baskets making it easier to spot the basket in the dense woods. Tee signs with a hand drawn picture of the hole. The hanging basket on #17 was very unique. Long Trout discs were for sale in the small winery.
Cons: EVERY hole on this course is tight and heavily wooded. Some of the fairways are about 8 feet wide in places. The tees are short with uneven gravel or wood which surprisingly was not slippery.
Single chain baskets.
The terrian is not only hilly but has numerous large rocks/boulders which makes it a tough walk, bring appropriate foot gear and walk/hike carefully.
Not much need of a driver disc on this course as most holes are under 300 or mid range narrow type of holes.
Single chain baskets.
The terrian is not only hilly but has numerous large rocks/boulders which makes it a tough walk, bring appropriate foot gear and walk/hike carefully.
Not much need of a driver disc on this course as most holes are under 300 or mid range narrow type of holes.
Other Thoughts: Sunday hours are listed as open at 11a, I called during the week asking if I could arrive early and was told "no problem".
I didn't enjoy the wine I sampled, it simply wasn't my style.
I laughed at the sign stating "profanity should be whispered"
No encounters with the neighbors as others have mentioned.
I didn't enjoy the wine I sampled, it simply wasn't my style.
I laughed at the sign stating "profanity should be whispered"
No encounters with the neighbors as others have mentioned.
3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
pleasant day
Pros: i am a newcomer when it comes to disc golf this is the only course i have played so maybe my review isnt really fair as i have nothing to compare it to.This course is alot of fun its heavily wooded which makes scorin low challenging.I bounce off of alot of trees
but its a fun day my friends and i have a great time here everyone i met here was very cool if id see someone do things differently id ask about their "style" and they've all been real cool and explained things to me the people here are just cool the owners are awesome people and the wine is good and inexpensive.youll need every shot "in your bag" to score well here the fairways are tight and the terrain is rough (i wore flip-flops my first time ouch) the length of the holes vary from mid 100s to 300 plus which is nice the short holes go uphill so they play a little longer than posted but with the trees i dont really see too many people drivin the baskets anyway hole 17 is cool with the barn and hangin basket this is the only hole youre gonna let it fly on (the barn will stop a long shot) but watch out for the mando. I think the "dead dogs" did a great job here they made great use of the elevation and terrain hole 9 comes through the woods then opens up to a pond with giant koi in it runnin along the left side of the fairway. i love playing here its a tough couse maybe i couldve started at an easier course for my first time but im sure this place will make me score better at a more open course
but its a fun day my friends and i have a great time here everyone i met here was very cool if id see someone do things differently id ask about their "style" and they've all been real cool and explained things to me the people here are just cool the owners are awesome people and the wine is good and inexpensive.youll need every shot "in your bag" to score well here the fairways are tight and the terrain is rough (i wore flip-flops my first time ouch) the length of the holes vary from mid 100s to 300 plus which is nice the short holes go uphill so they play a little longer than posted but with the trees i dont really see too many people drivin the baskets anyway hole 17 is cool with the barn and hangin basket this is the only hole youre gonna let it fly on (the barn will stop a long shot) but watch out for the mando. I think the "dead dogs" did a great job here they made great use of the elevation and terrain hole 9 comes through the woods then opens up to a pond with giant koi in it runnin along the left side of the fairway. i love playing here its a tough couse maybe i couldve started at an easier course for my first time but im sure this place will make me score better at a more open course
Cons: -lots of trees with very tight fairways
-paths get very rocky
-some high growth makes your dics hard to find here and there
-ive slipped in the gravel tee boxes
-paths get very rocky
-some high growth makes your dics hard to find here and there
-ive slipped in the gravel tee boxes
Other Thoughts: overall i absolutley love playin here it opened my eyes to disc golfing its a hard course for anybody let alone a beginner i hit alot of trees but my friends and i have a great time here and thats whats important we laugh alot and enjoy the round. the winery is only open wenesday during the week from 6-9 i believe but you can still go out anytime we run into the owners during the week sometimes and they are really cool to talk to.
So overall this course made me love the sport and to those of you who cmplain about the trees if you want a wide open course hidden valley isnt far away buy some clubs and go there we have a blast here and thats the whole point is having fun and unless youre anal (like the neighbors) you will so in my book we all win
So far eveyone i met at Long Trout Winery seems very laid back and pleasant other players even came over to help look for my disc then we bs'd awhile.I think society as a whole could learn alot from this place i feel fortunate to be able to exprience this place
So overall this course made me love the sport and to those of you who cmplain about the trees if you want a wide open course hidden valley isnt far away buy some clubs and go there we have a blast here and thats the whole point is having fun and unless youre anal (like the neighbors) you will so in my book we all win
So far eveyone i met at Long Trout Winery seems very laid back and pleasant other players even came over to help look for my disc then we bs'd awhile.I think society as a whole could learn alot from this place i feel fortunate to be able to exprience this place
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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