17 Helpful / 2 Not
A Bottle of Woods with a Side of Woods
Pros: Long Trout Winery is a unique and secluded course nestled in the PA woods. Positive aspects of the course include a variety of elevation, from flat to quite hilly. The course also featured a solid mix of left, right, and straight fairways. Water hazards added some variety and were present on numerous holes and incorporated streams and a pond.
This course is very rocky and almost completely wooded. In fact, many holes are quite heavily wooded indeed (but see cons below). Fairways such as those at Long Trout require low, accurate throws or risk a potentially punishing recovery. In addition to the volume of trees there were also several bamboo groves, which was a nice touch.
The baskets were in good condition and several holes featured multiple pin positions. This includes the famous "barn hole" where the fairway ends at a hanging basket at the front of a barn. With so few hanging baskets in the disc golf world, this one added some novelty, interest, and increased the enjoyment factor (but see cons below).
The tee signs were another nice touch. The signs were hand-painted and displayed distance, par, and possible throwing lines.
Oh, and did I mention that the course is located at a winery? Great round? Time to celebrate. Bad round? Drown your sorrows. Win-win.
Cons: Many holes had a feel that they weren't designed, per se, but more that they were using whatever lanes happend to be visible when the course was installed. Several holes felt like the tee and basket were dropped in as a place holder between two other fairways (see other thoughts). For the most part, every hole could be thinned somewhat without losing the accuracy requirements. Even on the most wide-open hole of the course, there is a double-mando that limits the ability to just grip 'n rip (if your throws aren't accurate). Another negative to the layout is that most holes are under 300'. If you need to focus on tight throws along clean lines, this course is great, but if you want to bomb a disc, this isn't the course for you.
The natural tees are boxed off and can get muddy. The elevated tee pads can be slick and dangerous. Some no-slip tape would do wonders to improve the saftey.
Even though the course isn't very far from I-78, Long Trout Winer is still in the middle of nowhere PA and has a bit of a "Deliverance" feel. Further exasperating this situation are the paranoid, over-protective neighbors that have not only fenced off their property, but have installed security cameras and prosecute anyone that crosses the property line to retrieve a lost disc. In this regard, if you lose any plastic over the fence, consider it GONE.
Although multiple baskets and the hanging barn baskets are a pro, retrieving your disc from the upper barn basket is a dicey experience. Getting to the upper level requires you to walk through a dark, unlit barn that is messy, dirty, and has boxes and other junk lying around and takes away from the appeal of the unique basket.
Other Thoughts: Long Trout Winery is a unique course. The word on the street is that course was installed from start to finish in two days. This is, no doubt, a great accomplishment, but the haste of the installation shows through in the volume of trees and the few afterthought holes that dot the course. If some of the layout and saftey issues could be addressed, Long Trout could easily bump up a half disc rating. All criticizms aside, it's still a challenging and enjoyable course. If you happen to be in the area, give it a try and treat yourself to some vino after your round.
17 of 19 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Wine and Woods
Pros: Also home to a Winery with good, cheap wine.
Often has bands so you can enjoy some great music while playing.
Nice variety on length/elevation, although most holes are heavily wooded
Nice pond (with monster Koi) that some holes play around
Cons: Woods Woods Woods. If you enjoy open holes, or ripping your driver, big run ups, and open air, this course is not for you.
The neighbors of this property set up cameras and "no tresspassing signs" and will prosecute people that stray onto their land, even if it's to retrieve a stray disc.
The gravel tees are a little small, although you usually don't need much of a run up.
Some of the tees are not safe.
Only open during certain hours:Wed. 6 PM - 9 PM, Sat. 1 PM - 7 PM, Sun. 11 AM - 5 PM.
Other Thoughts: This is a great course to have a good time at. Bring the wife for some wine, and play a round or two in the woods. This course is heavily wooded, which will be very challenging for your mid range game. Accuracy is much more important than distance, and this course is also a great place to beat in your discs. If you see the owner I'm sure he'd love to shoot with you.
9 of 10 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The fine people at Long Trout Winery are living the dream, owning their own winery and their own disc golf course on the property to boot. Long Trout's course offers just about every shot type you could want, with the exception of open holes that is. Lefts, rights, straight-aways, big uphills, down hills. The landscape also has its variety, though mostly wooded, holes play through small boulder fields, creeks and around a small pond with some of the biggest koi I've ever seen. Hole lengths vary from 150ish (on steep uphills) to 375ish (on flat or down hill shots) so if you can keep to the narrow fairways you'll have a number of birdies here. Doing so requires a number different shots, I even found myself throwing a baseball drive on a couple of holes. The hanging basket shot is real cool, and what could have been the most open shot on the course is turned into a tunnel shot right up the middle by a couple of mandos. The basket hangs from a barn which makes a nice backstop. All and all you have to be ridiculously accurate on this course, possibly the most heavily wooded I've played. All tee signs are nice and informative, and finding the next hole has never an issue.
Along with the course comes the awesome atmosphere of the winery, the very cool owners, and of course, the delicious wines.
Cons: As stated this is one of the most heavily wooded courses I've ever played. On about a third of the holes the fairway is nonexistent and requires luck more than anything to reach the basket. As such your drives will be very frustrating or very rewarding. I felt at times the fairways could use a little clearing. The gravel tee pads are small and could certainly use a leveling out, though I'm not sure they need much size increase. With the accuracy required on the drives I was never doing a big run up. The elevated wooden plank tees that are found on very uneven ground could be scary. No room for big run ups on these, but again they aren't very necessary. Overall the biggest con here is how heavy the trees are. A nice shot 1/3 of the way to the basket can be suddenly redirected 75 feet of course leaving you fighting to keep a bogey. And it can be like that on most holes.
Other Thoughts: Twice now I've gone on birthday camping trips with friends, played multiple rounds here, let the wine flow and we all had a blast. The course could use son fine tuning. The owners are great, played once with him. And the wine is amazing. I recommend the Daytripper.
12 of 13 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 2 Not
A unique challenge with unique wines
Pros: Very challenging, narrow fairways. Free wine samples: the biggest pro of all. Huge elevation changes in tight woods. #9 is a lovely hole that has water along one side. #18 seems to have an alternate pin using the water as well. Well-marked.
Cons: Missing a certain something for me. Too many holes seem the same: Up the hill through a gauntlet, down the hill through a gauntlet, along the hill through a gauntlet. No benches, no free water to drink. Very limited hours.
Other Thoughts: Be forewarned: This is NOT a beginner's course. Especially in 98 degree heat like when I played! If you see distances on the scorecard like 180 feet, that's because it's straight up a hill through a maze of trees.
4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 4 Not
Long Trout Review
Pros: Lots of elevation. Very well defined fairways and directions to the next tee. Custom bridges over the casual streams throughout the land. Oh yea...Long Trout owners/family are awesome people!!
Cons: Custom teepads are short and made of wood...no anti-grip hardware. Off-fairway trees could use some grooming. Terrain is very brutal on your ankles. Ankle support is beneficial.
Other Thoughts: This was my second time playing the course.
6 of 10 people found this review helpful.
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