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Tyler V
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Experience: 16.8 years 147 played 98 reviews
3.00 star(s)

An Underrated Old School Course That All Can Enjoy 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Dec 10, 2020 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

UPDATE - Schroeder Park has very recently been updated to be a full 18 hole course. The new 9 holes use the woods around the original 9, and keep the short feel of the original design. This 18 hole design has been an idea that's been around for a while, and I will be sure to update this review once I get to play this course again. Check UDisc for the new layout.


Schroeder Park is a highly utilized recreational complex that gets plenty of use and love from the local community. The 9 hole disc golf course that calls this park home is among the oldest in the area, and brings with it the vibes of old school short wooded golf of the past.

Schroeder Park is located near the junction of Manchester Road and 141 in the West County region of St. Louis. The park itself is not in an obvious location, but putting the park in Google Maps or Waze should get you to the right spot without any problems. In addition to disc golf, the park has an abundance of amenities, including bathrooms, tennis courts, basketball courts, baseball fields, a large playground, walking paths, and an amphitheater. Schroeder also has a large aquatic complex as well.

The disc golf course is not visible from the parking lot, but you will want to park at the far end of the lot. The course is on the other side of a large pavilion just north of the parking lot, between the aquatic center and the parks department building. Despite the amount of courts and walking paths in this park, the disc golf course is largely secluded along the north side of the park, with it's own patch of land that includes wooded sections as well as a more open middle area peppered with mature trees.

On the other side of the pavilion you will find a bright, yellow banded practice basket, a sign at the start of the course, and the start and end of the course itself, with hole 1's tee to the left and pin of hole 9 to the right. The practice basket is in a great spot on the hill that not only allows space for practice longer putts, but also elevated putts that have you looking either up or down at the basket. The sign at the start of the course provides some nice history behind the creation of the course, and also has some pencils available. In addition to the permanent sign, there's an additional yard-style sign that notes the weekly league that takes place Tuesday nights, as well as contact info for individual and group lessons.

Each hole on the course has a concreate tee pad and a fiberglass style tee sign that takes you back in time when you see them. Most of the holes have at least a bench at the tee, with many holes having a whole picnic table. Trash cans are also available at multiple holes. The tee pads, while a little shorter than the ones at most of the 18 holes in town, are in great shape and get wider at the front. The tee signs, while showing their age, give enough info to show you the shape of the holes and the direction to the next tee.

The baskets are Mach 3s and look older, perhaps even the original baskets. They're still in great shape, and should catch and putt or throw that deserves to be caught. It looks like the glow league here is alive and well, as the baskets have tape along the basket tops as well as some small LED lights around the center poles. Each basket has a larger number plate that are elevated a foot or two above the basket, making them easier to spot. The color selection on these can make them a little harder to spot for folks like myself that have mild to moderate colorblindness, but the size and height of the circle shaped plates make them easier to pick out than the typical smaller plates that many baskets have.

The layout of this course is divided between a central, more open zone with mature trees, and more wooded sections to the east and west. Navigation could be a little dicey the first time you play here if you don't make note of the signs as you play. The next tee directions on each tee sign are pretty accurate, so if you take a look at them, you should be able to figure out the less obvious transitions. The map on DGCR is pretty accurate as well when it comes to hole and tee locations, minus a couple of fairways that bend differently now. This course actually gets a lot of traffic, so you can always watch where other groups are going as well.

There are some beautiful shots and a surprising amount of variety of shot shapes on this course. Hole 1 starts you off with an open downhill, 262ft drive that requires navigating a number of larger trees. This hole allows for either left or right hooking lines, allowing folks to play to their strengths. Holes 2 and 3 require drives into greens that are guarded by the woods line, with 2 having a RHBH line and 3 having a RHFH line depending on pin placements, though 3 can be attacked with a hyzer if you can get through a small tree and brush line.

Holes 5 and 6 are open and in the same clearing as 1. Hole 6 has a mandatory dogleg to the left around hole 1's pin. While the course is on a relatively small piece of land for 9 holes of golf, this is the spot that had the biggest risk of overlap between holes, so it's nice to see that they made that addition. The mando is noted by a white pole that is visible from the teepad.

Holes 4, 7, and 8 are the completely wooded holes of the course. These holes each offer a different shot shape; hole 4 is straight over a little valley, hole 7 finishes right, and 8's main line is a gap in the woods that is great for RHBH shots. The holes are cleared out enough so that you have clear fairways to throw down, and the brush is cleared enough so that you should be able to find shots that get a bad kick or release without much trouble.

This course has a lot of offer beginners and intermediate players, and I'd argue this is among the best options in town for folks getting into disc golf and are learning the game. Holes 6 and 9 are the only holes that require a rip to get to the basket, so newer players will find this course a nice opportunity to practice different shot shapes, as well as both forehand and backhand shots. As an intermediate player, I brought a bag of 3 midranges and 4 putters of varying molds and stabilities, and I would a good opportunity to use each disc on this course. The low risk throughout this course will have newer players not feeling too discouraged by bad tree hits, while accurate drives will be rewarded with how open most of the greens are.

Cons:

The fiberglass tee signs are a nice throwback, but like many other courses that still have these, the signs are really showing their age. Most of the signs either have broken glass coverings, dirt, or sticker residue on them. The signs are getting the job done since they are on a short course where you can see most of the pins from the tee. I think either newer signs or refurbishment of the current ones would be a nice touch.

The course is far from the hardest to navigate, but I think a course map near the practice basket and hole 1's tee would be a nice addition as well for first time course goers. The signs at the holes take care of navigation, but with how much traffic this course gets, a full bulletin board to put a map as well as league info would be a great addition.

It sounds like there is supposed to be a sign for the mandatory dogleg on 6 along with the white post, but it was not there when I last played. Replacing the sign would be great - the group in front of me did not play the dogleg and held up a group on hole 1, but I'm not sure that they knew the dogleg existed.

Just a note for more advanced players that unless you are looking for an ace run course, this is not a course you are as likely to enjoy. This is primarily a course design that will be great for beginning and amateur players to learn the game and shot shaping, and for intermediate players to test accuracy and go for low scores.

Other Thoughts:

This course was the first original Dave McCormack/Gateway Disc Sports design according to other reviews on here, though the Gateway website says his first design was back in 1976. Gateway Disc Sports and the St. Louis Disc Golf Club are noted as the designers and constructors, but Innova and Discraft are credited with donating the course. This course feels like a great piece of history considering the number of companies and organizations that came together to make it happen.

I don't know the full history behind the course and future plans for it, but if there are talks of expanding the course to 18 holes at some point, then this could be a great wooded short course with a similar feeling to White Birch up in Hazelwood. There seems to be more land to the east and especially west of the course that doesn't seem to be used by other park goers, so the space is there. Such an expansion could also avoid the issues that White Birch has with the proximity of holes to each other with the amount of space this park has. It sounds like this plan may have also been put on ice due to past issues with some poorly behaved players, but I'm interested in learning more about this part of the history of this course.

It's a shame to learn about the issues that the residents that live near holes 5 and 6 have brought up with the course. I'm glad that more recent reviews don't mention this, suggesting that perhaps these neighbors have relaxed their opinions on the course a little bit. With the amount of traffic this course gets, it would be a shame if it were to be removed. That being said, be considerate of others both on the course and around it. Playing nice with other park goers and neighbors benefits everyone.

During my round at 3:30pm yesterday, there was probably a solo player or group on every hole. However, as someone who is more often playing the 18 holes at JB, Willmore, or Quail Ridge, the collection of folks playing this course stood out to me. The group behind me was comprised of 2 players that looked to be intermediate level. The person behind them seemed to be intermediate as well. The group in front of me was 3 teens that seemed to be amateur players learning the game. In front of them was a father with his boys that looked to be 4 or 5 (If your reading this, Dad, your kids can rip). While I was on 6, a 12-13 year old kid was playing with their dad.

I've played a lot of rounds across 77 courses, and I have never such a variety in terms of experience on a course. It was refreshing to see, and it's amazing to see a course getting so much love from local residents in addition to the regular disc golf players in the area.

Schroeder isn't going to blow anyone away. It doesn't have any bomber holes. None of the holes are particularly challenging. Tree kicks aren't going to be penalized severely. But it has fairways and drives that will help beginning and amateur players develop their skills. It has holes that intermediate players will find fun in a more easy going round if they want a break from the local 18s. I think advanced players could even find some joy in playing this course, as every hole is an ace run at that level.

If you have been playing disc golf for a bit and are looking for a challenge, there are plenty of more difficult courses in the area. If you want to bomb drives your whole round, I highly recommend the 10,000 behemoth that just got installed at Sunset Lakes. But I would be careful when overlooking Schroeder Park's 9 hole. It's a fun throwback to the days when short wooded holes reigned, and genuinely has something for everyone. If you're looking for a chill round as a seasoned vet, or are looking to get your friends, kids, or family into disc golf, this course is a great place to get them started.

Come give some love to one of the hidden gems of St. Louis Disc Golf.
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Otahk
Experience: 7 played 6 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Short course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 12, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

Short course allows you to work on throws. Typical park course. Some fairways are tight allowing work on drives. Great for beginners or for those who aren't throwing for great distance.

Cons:

The only con is the lack of clear course markings. For first timers, a map at the beginning of the course would be nice.
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discingPT
Experience: 24.2 years 1 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

My home course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 27, 2019 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-Concrete tee pads
-public bathrooms
-multiple pin positions
-tee signs
-quiet and secluded
-rarely busy, but obviously well used
-supportive city staff

Personally, it is very close to home

Cons:

-some tee signs are not very accurate
-short course with limited opportunities to air it out
-course map is not accurate (never used it myself, but I've heard from others who have played the course)
-drainage issues on hole 3 and 6 (they do not affect gameplay, just the walk between holes)

Other Thoughts:

-There is significant discussion of the city adding another 9 holes (east of 7 & 8, and west of 3 & 4). This will be an amazing addition, as this course is already pretty popular
-There are some alternate tee positions that are used during league play
-League happens every Tuesday from 5:30 until 8:00 or 8:30. In summer, it's a normal league. In winter, it's a glow league. It's a great time and very well run

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MrFrosty
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 31 years 764 played 386 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Nice 9 Hole Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 27, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

The 9 hole Schroeder Park , set on the lower southwest end of the Saint Louis area of Manchester ( old Manchester Park , circa 1993 ), is a nice throwback to the short courses of yesteryear . It plays away from the main area of the park , so it will take a little looking . Drive past the pool , stay to the right and park as close to the main office as you can . Walk behind the office and you will find the first tee . The basket will be confusing , even if you have a map . The tee pad is pointed straight down a hill , but the basket is to the right . Next tee pad is a hard left . There a nice cement pads on each hole , the baskets are in good shape . There are 2 pin placements per hole , unusual for a 9 holer . The signage looks nice , but is inaccurate with regards to pin placement on some , distance on others . The course is well taken care of . The area supports its short courses well . The course has a good mix of open and woods holes . Even in the open , it's hard to let loose , as trees are a factor on the open holes , too . The course flows decent , but there are a couple of places that will make you wander around some ( 2-3 , 4-5 , 7-8 ) . Print a map . Schroeder was popular the afternoon I played it . Short enough for families to enjoy it long and technical enough for average intermediates to work on their approach and putt and very good for newbies . There is a mando on 6 , I guess to protect the players putting out on #1's basket . A short but solid course that is on all of the locals' radar . Pretty quick play if by yourself and the course isn't crowded , maybe 35 minutes . some pretty good elevation on the course . My signature hole : #9 a great finishing hole . Your drive is uphill with a canopy affecting your throw , to a blind basket on the left behind the trees and brush .

Cons:

I really don't want to bash this course , considering it is sp popular the the area residents . No trash receptacles at the holes and no benches , but not a big negative since it is a 9 hole course and it plays fairly fast . Carry out what you carry in . Navigation can be an issue , especially without a map . You can easily walk to the wrong tee pad ( almost skipped #3 and went to 4 ) Figuring the walks to 7,8,and 9's tee pads can be tricky , too .

Other Thoughts:

Overall , I was impressed with this course . Once you find it in the park , you feel good about the course itself . There is also much to keep young ones and spouses / friends occupied in the park while you get in a quick round ( or 2 ) here . Not long or very difficult but worth the trip . My Recommendation : No destination course or must play , but group this course up with Bluebird Park and/or Logan University and make a day of it . If in the area , TRY IT !
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OldGolfer
Experience: 19 played 19 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Good Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 17, 2019 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

A nice 9-hole course. Decent concrete tees and good baskets. Well maintained and in good shape. Open fairways as well as tree-lined fairways. I've enjoyed all my rounds there and will play again.

Cons:

None, actually. They've done a good job with the amount of room available.
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Cory423
Experience: 7.1 years 22 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Great Beginner Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 30, 2017 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Great course for beginners
Plenty of open shots and chances for Aces/Eagles
Easy to play 9 or 18 fairly quickly

Cons:

Signage can be difficult to follow (or even see) sometimes
A few pins can be hard to find or see in the wooded area
9 Hole Course
Currently some construction near Hole 1

Other Thoughts:

I have a great time playing here. Haven't had the same issues as other people have with heavy foot traffic.
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Raymond42c
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

My go to course for now 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 3, 2017 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Great for Beginners.
Short course with decent variety of shots. Even a Mando on #6.
Very shady for the sunny days.
Easy to get to, but away from the main park enough to not get too much 'outside' traffic.
Able to find every hole and never lost a disc.
Nice little park next to it, so you can drop the spouse and kids off and get a short round in. (or maybe that's a con, it's your call.)

Cons:

Very steep hikes between a few holes. 7-8 is a pretty big hill.
Narrow fairways if you don't like that on half the holes. But open enough on the rest of them.
One reused basket for #1 and #6 (or I can't find #6, but everyone was using the same one)

*some construction issues with the current redo of the park offices - seems extremely temporary, and only affected play because I don't trust myself not to shank it into the bulldozer that was nowhere near my shot.*

Other Thoughts:

Was able to find all the holes this weekend with no problem. (again, #1 and #6 seem to share the basket).

Shots going into the woods are still easy enough to find. The undergrowth isn't all that bad, but there is enough foliage to stop the disc from flying to far into the woods. Still, I'd suggest driving in the woods with a bright colored disc.
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vesperdem
Experience: 7.3 years 1 played 1 reviews
1.50 star(s)

Not as easy as it might appear 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 25, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

A lot of shade and some benches for resting.

Cons:

Many holes deep in woods with very narrow "fairways".
Missing baskets or poorly marked.
Couldn't find the 8th holes basket.
The basket for hole 3 was simply missing.
Very hilly.
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mrbro855
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 10.5 years 363 played 105 reviews
2.00 star(s)

Needs a refresh..... 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 22, 2017 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

The typical pros:
Concrete pads that widen.
Signage at each hole. (Although some distances don't match the on line scorecard)
Good use of elevation and the wooden areas in the park.
Mostly wooded with even the "open" holes having plenty of trees as obstacles.

Cons:

The old grey baskets were difficult to see. Time to upgrade to the Innova bright yellow style.

The flow of the course wasn't great. Some overlap as #6 uses a weak mando to the left to avoid throwing at basket #1. Some excess walking- 4 to 5, 7 to 8 come to mind.

Other Thoughts:

Looks like the older course that it is. Wasn't an awful course, just need to redo a couple of holes to give it a wow hole or two.
Have played there three times. Won't rush to come back, but if friends wanted to play, would be willing to go.
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The Valkyrie Kid
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 45.8 years 1563 played 1507 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Really Enjoyable 9 Hole Play! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 22, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

Schroeder Park's DGC shows right from the start the amount of work that has been put into this course. First you see a very, impressive colonial looking course dedication sign. The concrete tee pads are shaped to be wider at the front. # 1 pad is a well engineered pad. The tee signs are basic fiberglass giving the usual information. There are plenty of garbage cans around. There's a sign at # 1 stating that the course is closed on Tuesday nights for league Play.

# 1 is just a pretty hole. It plays 262' slightly downhill through a natural looking fairway. 2 & 3 were both similar holes with visible baskets. # 4 was a pretty throw across a small valley playing 245-307' with a fairly tight window to hit, another pretty hole.

Matter of fact, all of the holes here were pretty. This was just a nice little park with very little underbrush. Just the right amount of rolling hills and enough trees for challenge. The course gives you a little bit of everything, some downhill, hysers, anhysers, uphills, some semi-technical. It doesn't have the dramatic downhill or any over the water shots.

Cons:

I had a really difficult time finding this park. My GPS took me to totally different part of town. Then when I finally found the park, I drove in, looked around and saw no evidence of any disc golf course. So I left and drove all around the town, thinking there might be another entrance to the park. I finally came back, asked a maintenance worker and he directed me to the courses, saying, "oh yah, You can't miss it!" Buddy, I've been missing it for about an hour.

It's a little short for some players. I'd call it a nice little recreational course. Lacks challenge for many players.

There are some holes playing close to each other. As this course gets busy, players will have to be cautious.

Navigation is a little tricky around # 4.

Other Thoughts:

Fun, easy, enjoyable course to play. You can get through it in 30-40 minutes, stress free with little worry of losing discs or falling off any ravines. Excellent courses for beginners or less skilled players but sill good fun but better players. I'd love to live near this course or better yet, wrap it up and take it back to Washington with me.
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CatPoopie
Experience: 13.2 years 9 played 4 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Love this course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 25, 2015 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-Good variety among holes
-Challenging for beginner and intermediate players.
-Multiple hole placements that can actually change your strategy.
-The park has caretakers on staff, so it never gets overgrown.
-Small area that really maximizes the available space

Cons:

-Some of the baskets need to be replaced, and some of the wooded areas need to be cleaned up.
-There is a crazy amount of poison ivy and poison sumac just to the right of the fairway on hole 4.
-Holes 7 and 8 need to be clearly marked.

Other Thoughts:

A lot of reviewers mention how crowded this place can be. I play here a lot and I suppose that's true to some extent, but I've never been concerned with that. This is a solid course layout with plenty of challenge.
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blake13
Experience: 11.9 years 74 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Old Faithful 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 21, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- Concrete teepads
- Well-manicured grass throughout
- Ample trashcans
- Good use of elevation
- Nice mix of long and short drives
- Nice mix of open and technical drives
- Located in a nice park
- Multiple pin placements
- Quick to play

Cons:

- Crowded at times
- Overlapping fairways (the basket for Hole 1 is in the line of the throw for Hole 6)
- Lousy tee signs
- Only 9 holes
- Lack of a permanent mando sign for Hole 6; keeps getting stolen

Other Thoughts:

Schroeder is the best 9 hole course in St. Louis. It only takes about 35 minutes to get through the 9 holes, but I can easily play three rounds in a row. Despite the course being tucked into a relatively small area, the design allows for nearly every possible shot to be used. Trees become a factor for several of the holes, while others are pretty much wide open to bring out the high speed, high glide drivers. The multiple pin placements keep the course from getting boring and demand different approaches when they are in place. Don't let the low rating for this course fool you--Schroeder is a fantastic place to play even though it only has 9 holes. You will have a fun time and keep a pretty low score, too, as the pars are reasonable (locals play all par 3s).
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lbond
Experience: 3 played 3 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Golden Niner 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 30, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- Excellent variety for a nine hole course.
- Locals are always very friendly.
- Concrete Pads
- Multiple basket placements and extra set of natural alternate tee pads

Cons:

- Tee pads can be short
- Can get congested between 7 and 1
- Lots of local teenage turds come out and mess with the picnic tables and benches.

Other Thoughts:

I love Schroeder. This was the course I started on and is still the best 9 hole I have played. It has a great variety of shots both in and out of the woods, the baskets are changed regularly and the park setting is very nice. If I were traveling around playing, this probably wouldn't be on my list to visit, but as a nice local 9 it can't be beat.
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discdanny
Experience: 10.8 years 37 played 17 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Schroedog 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 8, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Schroeder offers quite a few different shots for only being a 9 hole course. It also varies due to multiple basket locations for each hole and for some of those locals..there are actually extra flagged tee pads that are used to play an 18 hole league on Tuesday nights.. of course you can play these other times as well. This course features concrete tee pads, metal tee signs, trash cans, park benches, bathrooms and small pro shop located in the park & rec center. This course is easily the best 9 holer i have played to date.. Also i really recommend checking out the tuesday night league that i had mentioned before.. It runs all year long with glow thru the winter. begins around 530pm.

Cons:

Can get congested with new players who dont necessarily know the finer points of disc golf yet..

Also.. do not throw in the yard of the white house near hole 6..this old lady will take your disc and not return it.. she has a stack of a few hundred in her garage..

Other Thoughts:

Awesome design by Dave Mac again.. Great job by course captain Grant Goodrich on keeping it clean up there
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dandruff1138
Experience: 7 played 4 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Basket Switch-a-roo! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 15, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great course that has decent "flow." Good for beginners and noticed lots of veterans on the course as well. Seems to be a popular place, and even has a disc shop on site! Tees are interesting shape that gives you the option of taking some interesting approaches.

Cons:

The flow is good, but still got lost briefly, many baskets are in view when teeing off, and hole 7/8 had the baskets swapped which was a little confusing at first, but got it sorted out.

Other Thoughts:

Had fun, be careful of other players and pedestrians!
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Jonnykatz
Experience: 40.8 years 17 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Great way to squeeze a course in a park 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 18, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

I gave this course a 'very good' partly because of the excellent signage. The maps proved to be pretty accurate. Although all the holes are pretty short there is plenty of variety in elevation and challenging squeezes through woods to get to the basket. A great park to bring your family to play on the excellent playgrounds and water park while you fit in some disc practice.

Cons:

Although well laid out for the amount of space available, it might be even better to make it a 6 hole course to provide some longer tees. A little crowded, but fortunately stays out of the way of other park functions.

Other Thoughts:

Excellent use of space. Just goes to show that its well worth it to fit in a well thought out course to any park that can find a few acres that are underused. Wish my hometown (Newnan, GA) could figure that out.
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TheGoldenPutter
Experience: 15 years 52 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Improving park 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 29, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Let me start out by saying this is the best 9 hole course in the area. A lot of new stuff has been done and the park has gone from sketchy to a good course.

+ NEW PIN PLACEMENTS ON EVERY HOLE. Each hole as gotten 1 new pin placement(except #1) which REALLY improves the quality of this park, and the local players love it. Also the new placements make it more difficult because most of the holes are longer and the baskets aren't staring at you for an ace.

+ Terrain-The course is on a large gradual hill with small valleys in the woods. Even in its limited area, the park used the terrain very well. There are
2 uphill-downhill shots
2 holes where you throw over a small depression
2 holes that have a sharp hill
3 holes in the woods
3 holes in the open(park style)
3 holes with woods and open area.
The set up of the course mixes the different terrains very well.

+ Maintenance-Grass is always cut, mulch around pin placements, mulch through cleared paths in the woods, trashcans at every other tee, benches on a few tees as well. The underbrush in the woods is mostly cleared out so if your disc goes into the ruff you aren't bushwhacking to find your disc.

+ The challenge to get deuces and a few aces bring you back for more.
+ Concrete tee pads

**UPDATE 7-19-12 **
Drainage issue on #3 and #4 has been fixed.

Cons:

- The park is just on the short side. Only one of the holes could be considered "long" (#6). Even though theres diverse shots, none really allow you to "grip and rip"

- Hole interference- The park had to move holes #6 and #7 a while back because the residents in the houses close to the park were not happy about discs in their yards. This causes an interference with #6 and #1. The issue is #6's fairway passes right by #1's pin, so this causes you to wait if somebody is throwing on the other hole.
--- Not as big as an issue but discs from #7's tee can end up in #8's fairway.

- No par 4's or 5's that reward solid 3 or 4 stroke birdies. No holes have challenging approach shots.

- Because it's in a local area, the park can get very crowded, and in the summer the parking lot can get full because of people at the pool.

- Tee signs are hard to read for the first timers and marked on, but they give a general direction.

- Flow and navigation - for a new player to the course it might get confusing because of holes close together and you have to walk back down the hill on #4.

Other Thoughts:

This park has come a very long way, it's never going to be a pro course, but calling it a beginners only doesn't really fit. I think the reviews should be re-done because of all the changes.
In a sum up, this is a shorter park but with good terrain variety, maintenance, and offers some fun challenge. The course can get a little crowded though, and it's definitely not a bomber course (most all holes can use a mid-range or putter) but it tests your technical shot skills. Very amateur and beginner friendly. If you want a fun, less challenging game of disc golf, come here. But if you want a true St. Louis challenge, there are far better courses ex. Carrollton or Jefferson Barracks. Let me end by saying again, the best 9 hole in the area.
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stubborn puppet
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.1 years 48 played 27 reviews
3.50 star(s)

I like this course. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 6, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

I'm a little unclear why so many of the reviews below give this such a low score. It may be "short", but with only a few exceptions, all the 9 hole courses in the area are short; some are shorter and most are in far less awesome condition.

The course offers really nice use of elevation change and gives a perfect mix of open greens vs. wooded shots. You may not have even noticed it, but every tee (except holes 1 and 9) starts under the shade of a large tree and ends in the shade of a tree or in the woods, which makes it really nice on a hot day. The grass is well maintained and so are the trails in the woods (mostly). You could make the course into a putter round, but there are plenty of opportunities to work on style with your fairway and midrange discs.

I've also found that bad throws that go into the woods are still easy to find because the underbrush is all cleaned out.

The park is mostly pretty clean too and has a trash receptacle at every other hole, so littering is minimal and impossible to excuse.

Cons:

There are some spots on this course where a little runoff control is needed and parks & rec should do some build up around a couple of the baskets to cover the roots so folks don't trip and fall. Hole number 4 could use a real bridge instead of a bunch of rotting logs to stumble across to cross the creek-like area. I suppose one could also argue that some of the baskets are too close to other fairways, but I've never felt like that isn't obvious and have never seen anybody get hit or even come close.

Other Thoughts:

A map for your first trip is a good idea, but it's not too bad.
Par is, like most of the 9's around, exagerated... but it feels good to get lot's of birdies and eagles :)
Sometimes this park gets really crowded in general because of the public pool right next to the course. During those times, you will have a lot of trouble finding a parking place and I've had to look for adults to get the kids off the course and out of harms way a few times.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.1 years 831 played 767 reviews
1.50 star(s)

Nice n easy 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 5, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course plays on a grassy hillside with a few holes playing through the woods on either end of the course. This makes for a nice mix of park style holes with mature trees and wooded holes with tighter lines and brushy rough. There are some different shot shapes here, and the variety is helped by the elevation changes on nearly every hole adding fun and some challenge.

There are nice concrete pads that seemed pretty new and are still in great shape. The tee signs were really basic, but had enough info to make the course easy to follow without too much extra walking to figure out navigation or where to throw. The baskets are in pretty good shape and catch ok.

Cons:

This is a pretty short and easy course overall. Many of the holes are easily reachable with a putter and don't offer much in the way of challenge. There are some safety issues here, with some holes playing very close to one another. Hole 6 is the worst offender, playing almost directly over hole 1's basket. There are some erosion issues, especially in the woods but around some of the baskets out in the open too, it's a tough thing to prevent when you have lots of people walking in the same hilly areas.

Other Thoughts:

This isn't a spectacular course, but it's a quick and fun round that will at least work on some of your approach game. It's a nice place for a putter round, and a great place to bring newer players. The holes are reasonable lengths and the brush isn't so thick that you'll lose discs. More experienced players just won't find very much challenge here to keep them coming back. If you're in the area and want a quick, stress free round this is an ok course, otherwise there are lots of nicer places to play around St. Louis.
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dirtyrock
Experience: 27 played 1 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Very good for a quick 9 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 15, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Great elevation changes, hills, valleys.
NEW CONCRETE PADS, on EVERY hole, as of 8/16/10
Much improved hole 4, new tee box at top of hill, now shooting through narrow wooded fairway over a wooded valley. Just shoot straight and low, your disc will skip up the hill directly at the basket, easy bird on one of the longer holes.

Cons:

-only 9 holes, no alternate pads or pin placements.
-Hole 6 fairway crosses hole 1 green.
-Most holes are too short, could be a pro for some, putter practice, ace holes, beginners, etc.
-Fairly crowded, not too bad though.
-Pool next to course plays loud and terrible music.

Other Thoughts:

Great practice course if you live nearby, not worth a trip out to this one, but I enjoy a quick round here.
Definitely a par 3 course, ignore posted pars.
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