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Old Faithful

5+    8/21/2014   8/21/2014
Review By: blake13
Played: 15  Reviewed: 2  Exp: 2.4 Years
Pros: - Concrete teepads
- Well-manicured grass throughout
- Ample trashcans
- Good use of elevation
- Nice mix of long and short drives
- Nice mix of open and technical drives
- Located in a nice park
- Multiple pin placements
- Quick to play
Cons: - Crowded at times
- Overlapping fairways (the basket for Hole 1 is in the line of the throw for Hole 6)
- Lousy tee signs
- Only 9 holes
- Lack of a permanent mando sign for Hole 6; keeps getting stolen
Other Thoughts: Schroeder is the best 9 hole course in St. Louis. It only takes about 35 minutes to get through the 9 holes, but I can easily play three rounds in a row. Despite the course being tucked into a relatively small area, the design allows for nearly every possible shot to be used. Trees become a factor for several of the holes, while others are pretty much wide open to bring out the high speed, high glide drivers. The multiple pin placements keep the course from getting boring and demand different approaches when they are in place. Don't let the low rating for this course fool you--Schroeder is a fantastic place to play even though it only has 9 holes. You will have a fun time and keep a pretty low score, too, as the pars are reasonable (locals play all par 3s).

Schroedog

5+    11/8/2013   11/21/2013
Review By: discdanny
Played: 37  Reviewed: 17  Exp: 1.3 Years
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Schroeder offers quite a few different shots for only being a 9 hole course. It also varies due to multiple basket locations for each hole and for some of those locals..there are actually extra flagged tee pads that are used to play an 18 hole league on Tuesday nights.. of course you can play these other times as well. This course features concrete tee pads, metal tee signs, trash cans, park benches, bathrooms and small pro shop located in the park & rec center. This course is easily the best 9 holer i have played to date.. Also i really recommend checking out the tuesday night league that i had mentioned before.. It runs all year long with glow thru the winter. begins around 530pm.
Cons: Can get congested with new players who dont necessarily know the finer points of disc golf yet..

Also.. do not throw in the yard of the white house near hole 6..this old lady will take your disc and not return it.. she has a stack of a few hundred in her garage..
Other Thoughts: Awesome design by Dave Mac again.. Great job by course captain Grant Goodrich on keeping it clean up there

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.

 Great way to squeeze a course in a park

1    6/18/2012   6/18/2012
Review By: Jonnykatz
Played: 17  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 31.3 Years
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: I gave this course a 'very good' partly because of the excellent signage. The maps proved to be pretty accurate. Although all the holes are pretty short there is plenty of variety in elevation and challenging squeezes through woods to get to the basket. A great park to bring your family to play on the excellent playgrounds and water park while you fit in some disc practice.
Cons: Although well laid out for the amount of space available, it might be even better to make it a 6 hole course to provide some longer tees. A little crowded, but fortunately stays out of the way of other park functions.
Other Thoughts: Excellent use of space. Just goes to show that its well worth it to fit in a well thought out course to any park that can find a few acres that are underused. Wish my hometown (Newnan, GA) could figure that out.

0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

Improving park

5+    3/29/2012   3/30/2012
Review By: TheGoldenPutter
Played: 52  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 5.5 Years
This review was updated on 11/29/2012
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Let me start out by saying this is the best 9 hole course in the area. A lot of new stuff has been done and the park has gone from sketchy to a good course.

+ NEW PIN PLACEMENTS ON EVERY HOLE. Each hole as gotten 1 new pin placement(except #1) which REALLY improves the quality of this park, and the local players love it. Also the new placements make it more difficult because most of the holes are longer and the baskets aren't staring at you for an ace.

+ Terrain-The course is on a large gradual hill with small valleys in the woods. Even in its limited area, the park used the terrain very well. There are
2 uphill-downhill shots
2 holes where you throw over a small depression
2 holes that have a sharp hill
3 holes in the woods
3 holes in the open(park style)
3 holes with woods and open area.
The set up of the course mixes the different terrains very well.

+ Maintenance-Grass is always cut, mulch around pin placements, mulch through cleared paths in the woods, trashcans at every other tee, benches on a few tees as well. The underbrush in the woods is mostly cleared out so if your disc goes into the ruff you aren't bushwhacking to find your disc.

+ The challenge to get deuces and a few aces bring you back for more.
+ Concrete tee pads

**UPDATE 7-19-12 **
Drainage issue on #3 and #4 has been fixed.
Cons: - The park is just on the short side. Only one of the holes could be considered "long" (#6). Even though theres diverse shots, none really allow you to "grip and rip"

- Hole interference- The park had to move holes #6 and #7 a while back because the residents in the houses close to the park were not happy about discs in their yards. This causes an interference with #6 and #1. The issue is #6's fairway passes right by #1's pin, so this causes you to wait if somebody is throwing on the other hole.
--- Not as big as an issue but discs from #7's tee can end up in #8's fairway.

- No par 4's or 5's that reward solid 3 or 4 stroke birdies. No holes have challenging approach shots.

- Because it's in a local area, the park can get very crowded, and in the summer the parking lot can get full because of people at the pool.

- Tee signs are hard to read for the first timers and marked on, but they give a general direction.

- Flow and navigation - for a new player to the course it might get confusing because of holes close together and you have to walk back down the hill on #4.
Other Thoughts: This park has come a very long way, it's never going to be a pro course, but calling it a beginners only doesn't really fit. I think the reviews should be re-done because of all the changes.
In a sum up, this is a shorter park but with good terrain variety, maintenance, and offers some fun challenge. The course can get a little crowded though, and it's definitely not a bomber course (most all holes can use a mid-range or putter) but it tests your technical shot skills. Very amateur and beginner friendly. If you want a fun, less challenging game of disc golf, come here. But if you want a true St. Louis challenge, there are far better courses ex. Carrollton or Jefferson Barracks. Let me end by saying again, the best 9 hole in the area.
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4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 I like this course.

5+    7/6/2011   7/8/2011
Review By: stubborn puppet
Played: 43  Reviewed: 21  Exp: 3.6 Years
This review was updated on 7/15/2011
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: I'm a little unclear why so many of the reviews below give this such a low score. It may be "short", but with only a few exceptions, all the 9 hole courses in the area are short; some are shorter and most are in far less awesome condition.

The course offers really nice use of elevation change and gives a perfect mix of open greens vs. wooded shots. You may not have even noticed it, but every tee (except holes 1 and 9) starts under the shade of a large tree and ends in the shade of a tree or in the woods, which makes it really nice on a hot day. The grass is well maintained and so are the trails in the woods (mostly). You could make the course into a putter round, but there are plenty of opportunities to work on style with your fairway and midrange discs.

I've also found that bad throws that go into the woods are still easy to find because the underbrush is all cleaned out.

The park is mostly pretty clean too and has a trash receptacle at every other hole, so littering is minimal and impossible to excuse.
Cons: There are some spots on this course where a little runoff control is needed and parks & rec should do some build up around a couple of the baskets to cover the roots so folks don't trip and fall. Hole number 4 could use a real bridge instead of a bunch of rotting logs to stumble across to cross the creek-like area. I suppose one could also argue that some of the baskets are too close to other fairways, but I've never felt like that isn't obvious and have never seen anybody get hit or even come close.
Other Thoughts: A map for your first trip is a good idea, but it's not too bad.
Par is, like most of the 9's around, exagerated... but it feels good to get lot's of birdies and eagles :)
Sometimes this park gets really crowded in general because of the public pool right next to the course. During those times, you will have a lot of trouble finding a parking place and I've had to look for adults to get the kids off the course and out of harms way a few times.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Very good for a quick 9

5+    8/15/2010   8/17/2010
Review By: dirtyrock
Played: 27  Reviewed: 2
This review was updated on 8/19/2010
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Great elevation changes, hills, valleys.
NEW CONCRETE PADS, on EVERY hole, as of 8/16/10
Much improved hole 4, new tee box at top of hill, now shooting through narrow wooded fairway over a wooded valley. Just shoot straight and low, your disc will skip up the hill directly at the basket, easy bird on one of the longer holes.
Cons: -only 9 holes, no alternate pads or pin placements.
-Hole 6 fairway crosses hole 1 green.
-Most holes are too short, could be a pro for some, putter practice, ace holes, beginners, etc.
-Fairly crowded, not too bad though.
-Pool next to course plays loud and terrible music.
Other Thoughts: Great practice course if you live nearby, not worth a trip out to this one, but I enjoy a quick round here.
Definitely a par 3 course, ignore posted pars.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.


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