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Played: 183 Reviewed: 78 Exp: 10 Years
Pros: Riverview is a great course in well manicured park. It offers a good challenge for most players, but birdies are not out of the question on most holes. Great combinations of distance, elevation change, directional changes, wooded and open holes. Amenities are nice, including signs, concrete tee pads, and benches on each hole, and trash cans on most holes. Water fountains are near the practice basket, and across the road from the sixteenth tee box. Fairways are well established through the woods on the first eleven holes, many of them changing elevation. The rough will cost you shots if you make mistakes. Alternate pin positions on several holes change the looks every few weeks.
Cons: Transitions between holes may be hard to navigate for those unfamiliar to the course. Rain makes some of the eroded hillsides and tees very muddy and slick. Rarely, events at the Rec Center will cause overflow parking to encroach onto the disc golf course. Lately construction has displaced the basket on 18, hopefully soon it will find a new home.
Other Thoughts: Augusta is lucky to have multiple quality disc golf courses. Riverview was the first course I played here and still my favorite. I have played Riverview at least once a week for most of the five years I have lived in the area. I have shot a 50 twice, and have seen others shoot as low as 44. Here is a hole by hole break down.
1. 300" Fairway is open down the middle, with trees and a walking path on the left (high side) and a creek and trees on the right (low side). The basket close to the left side atop a hill rolling down to the right and behind it. A long RHBH hyzer can give you an ace run or a hard skip/roll. Crossing the walking path and a bike trail leads to next tee.
2. 190" Tee is elevated about 15" higher than the basket. Halfway down the fairway is a zig zag to the right that drops down the hill, with trees on both sides. RHBH throws must start to the right, stabilizing as altitude drops to park it under the basket. Too far to the left and you putt down a steep hill, or down onto or across the fairway. Too far to the right, and you risk rolling down a steep hill with heavy woods.
3. 200" Tee box is 20" below the spot where the pin is located. A RHBH hyzer can get you right under the basket, but many trees wait to knock down drives that are too short or long, and again, rolling down the hill into heavy rough is not hard to do. Walking back to the trail and turning right past the dumpsters leads you behind the Rec Center to the next tee.
4. 500" The hole that gives Riverview Park its name. Tee is elevated about 15" above a long fairway that bends to the left and continues to pin locations on the left (high side, 485') or longer back to the right. Threes are possible, but only if you stay in the fairway, rough is heavy on both sides.
5. 240" Fairway is straight and open until approaching the basket sharply left and uphill. A RHBH hyzer can get you close, if the distance is just right and the shot sticks to the hillside.
6. 285" Tee shot is taken at the top of a hill and drops maybe 35' before crossing a creek with two blind pin positions on the right side. Shorter pin is across the creek, very close to the water. The long pin is tucked a little further back into a niche with a couple more trees. RHBH turnover works, but sometimes I use a RHFH hyzer. A tough deuce, either way. I think the long pin is actually easier, and have an ace on it, inexplicably. Tree love was involved. Next tee is on the other side of the creek.
7. 285" Seven is an uphill tee shot back over the creek. The short pin is to the left at about 240" in my estimation. RHBH hyzer can put you under the basket. The long pin is way uphill, crushing a RHBH hyzer still leaves me with a long putt. Past the long pin, there is a pavilion and a small bicycle track. Walk past these and keep to the right to find the eighth tee.
8. 260" A straight, clear fairway lined on both sides by woods. Short pin is at right down the middle. The longer pin is at the same distance, but out of view 30" to the right.
9. 285' The fairway makes a hard right turn at the end toward the pins. Short is at the top of the hill, and there is a longer pin 25" down, and a third position across the creek at the bottom of the hill. A birdie is possible, but the longest pin will require a strong drive just to get a 120" approach down a 35" hill to the pin across the creek at the bottom (400"). Last time out the longest position was moved to the middle spot, and this could be a permanent change, I don't know.
10. 260" Drive up a hill with trees lining both sides of the fairway. Hill levels out two thirds of the way up the fairway approaching the pin. RHBH must have some turnover and flex out to the left beneath the canopy of tree limbs at the top of the hill in order to be close to the pin. Walking up the hill to your left and a right across the walking path gets you to the next tee.
11. 300' Another birdie opportunity if you can make a long RHBH hyzer throw accurately. Fairway goes downhill out of the box, across a stream, and back uphill and to the left. There is a bridge over the creek, but storms wash it out of place sometimes. It has been jacked for the last few weeks.
12. 285" Drive takes a short corridor out of the woods and the basket is out of view on the right side. A RHBH anhyzer with a nice glide and flex can reach the pin.
13. 345" A long drive over an grassy,open field. The short pin is about 305", and the long is down the hill a bit further.
14. 190" A short hole near the top of a 35" hill. The tee box has throwing lanes to the left or right of a cluster of trees and shrubs in the middle. of the fairway. RHBH hyzer will get you close if you hug the trees. Plays longer than it seems because of the hill. After 14, the next tee box is across the road, and to the right, but some like to tee off at the top of the hill and over the road, next to the soccer field.
15. 550" Another long hole (par 4 officially), that requires a long drive and very accurate approach for a putt at a three. Road on the left is O.B., and the rough on the right is heavy, but the fairway is wide enough that you can really go for it. The basket is tucked in the trees on the right at the end of the fairway. Cross the walking trail and turn a bit left to the next tee pad.
16. 290" A wide open fairway (except for one telephone pole) slightly uphill to the basket surrounded by a ring of small trees. Another big hyzer on a RHBH can get you close to the pin for a birdie putt. Walk directly to the right from the basket and you'll see the next tee.
17. 280" The tee is about the same elevation as the pin, but the fairway swings to the left, up and down a good sized hill. I go for a RHBH turnover shot, that needs height to clear the hill, but stay under the canopy of leaves. The basket is among a few large trees on the right. Next tee is up the hill and back to the left.
18. 320' Downhill drive with a few trees and a road on the right side of the fairway. A long RHBH hyzer can get you under the basket, as long as it is high enough to clear the line of crape myrtle trees.
If you can throw for good distance with consistent accuracy, you should get some birdies here. This is one of many very good courses in the Augusta area. I would be happy to guide here and elsewhere in Augusta, if it is needed.
1. 300" Fairway is open down the middle, with trees and a walking path on the left (high side) and a creek and trees on the right (low side). The basket close to the left side atop a hill rolling down to the right and behind it. A long RHBH hyzer can give you an ace run or a hard skip/roll. Crossing the walking path and a bike trail leads to next tee.
2. 190" Tee is elevated about 15" higher than the basket. Halfway down the fairway is a zig zag to the right that drops down the hill, with trees on both sides. RHBH throws must start to the right, stabilizing as altitude drops to park it under the basket. Too far to the left and you putt down a steep hill, or down onto or across the fairway. Too far to the right, and you risk rolling down a steep hill with heavy woods.
3. 200" Tee box is 20" below the spot where the pin is located. A RHBH hyzer can get you right under the basket, but many trees wait to knock down drives that are too short or long, and again, rolling down the hill into heavy rough is not hard to do. Walking back to the trail and turning right past the dumpsters leads you behind the Rec Center to the next tee.
4. 500" The hole that gives Riverview Park its name. Tee is elevated about 15" above a long fairway that bends to the left and continues to pin locations on the left (high side, 485') or longer back to the right. Threes are possible, but only if you stay in the fairway, rough is heavy on both sides.
5. 240" Fairway is straight and open until approaching the basket sharply left and uphill. A RHBH hyzer can get you close, if the distance is just right and the shot sticks to the hillside.
6. 285" Tee shot is taken at the top of a hill and drops maybe 35' before crossing a creek with two blind pin positions on the right side. Shorter pin is across the creek, very close to the water. The long pin is tucked a little further back into a niche with a couple more trees. RHBH turnover works, but sometimes I use a RHFH hyzer. A tough deuce, either way. I think the long pin is actually easier, and have an ace on it, inexplicably. Tree love was involved. Next tee is on the other side of the creek.
7. 285" Seven is an uphill tee shot back over the creek. The short pin is to the left at about 240" in my estimation. RHBH hyzer can put you under the basket. The long pin is way uphill, crushing a RHBH hyzer still leaves me with a long putt. Past the long pin, there is a pavilion and a small bicycle track. Walk past these and keep to the right to find the eighth tee.
8. 260" A straight, clear fairway lined on both sides by woods. Short pin is at right down the middle. The longer pin is at the same distance, but out of view 30" to the right.
9. 285' The fairway makes a hard right turn at the end toward the pins. Short is at the top of the hill, and there is a longer pin 25" down, and a third position across the creek at the bottom of the hill. A birdie is possible, but the longest pin will require a strong drive just to get a 120" approach down a 35" hill to the pin across the creek at the bottom (400"). Last time out the longest position was moved to the middle spot, and this could be a permanent change, I don't know.
10. 260" Drive up a hill with trees lining both sides of the fairway. Hill levels out two thirds of the way up the fairway approaching the pin. RHBH must have some turnover and flex out to the left beneath the canopy of tree limbs at the top of the hill in order to be close to the pin. Walking up the hill to your left and a right across the walking path gets you to the next tee.
11. 300' Another birdie opportunity if you can make a long RHBH hyzer throw accurately. Fairway goes downhill out of the box, across a stream, and back uphill and to the left. There is a bridge over the creek, but storms wash it out of place sometimes. It has been jacked for the last few weeks.
12. 285" Drive takes a short corridor out of the woods and the basket is out of view on the right side. A RHBH anhyzer with a nice glide and flex can reach the pin.
13. 345" A long drive over an grassy,open field. The short pin is about 305", and the long is down the hill a bit further.
14. 190" A short hole near the top of a 35" hill. The tee box has throwing lanes to the left or right of a cluster of trees and shrubs in the middle. of the fairway. RHBH hyzer will get you close if you hug the trees. Plays longer than it seems because of the hill. After 14, the next tee box is across the road, and to the right, but some like to tee off at the top of the hill and over the road, next to the soccer field.
15. 550" Another long hole (par 4 officially), that requires a long drive and very accurate approach for a putt at a three. Road on the left is O.B., and the rough on the right is heavy, but the fairway is wide enough that you can really go for it. The basket is tucked in the trees on the right at the end of the fairway. Cross the walking trail and turn a bit left to the next tee pad.
16. 290" A wide open fairway (except for one telephone pole) slightly uphill to the basket surrounded by a ring of small trees. Another big hyzer on a RHBH can get you close to the pin for a birdie putt. Walk directly to the right from the basket and you'll see the next tee.
17. 280" The tee is about the same elevation as the pin, but the fairway swings to the left, up and down a good sized hill. I go for a RHBH turnover shot, that needs height to clear the hill, but stay under the canopy of leaves. The basket is among a few large trees on the right. Next tee is up the hill and back to the left.
18. 320' Downhill drive with a few trees and a road on the right side of the fairway. A long RHBH hyzer can get you under the basket, as long as it is high enough to clear the line of crape myrtle trees.
If you can throw for good distance with consistent accuracy, you should get some birdies here. This is one of many very good courses in the Augusta area. I would be happy to guide here and elsewhere in Augusta, if it is needed.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Concrete Tee pads, courses that curve both left and right. Woods and open holes. Course is easy to follow, great signs. Challenging par, but not crazy hard. I love this course and play it every couple of weeks.
Cons: Just don't play it right after a rain, give it a couple days.
Other Thoughts: Great course, glad I live near it.
2 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Played: 82 Reviewed: 70 Exp: 8.6 Years
Pros: -Teepads were in excellent condition which include:Cement Tees, Good Signage, and Garbage Cans
-Practice Basket at the start
-Good pin placement, and course design
-Bathrooms inside rec center
-Big "Fun Factor" for me.
-Plenty of parking
-Clean and well landscaped
-Two 500ft holes; Most of the holes are 250-350ft; leaving a couple of holes that are less than 250ft.
-Variety of terrain, allowing for a variety of hole types: Tight wooded, Open field, Steep hills up/down, and Multiple, as well as interesting, dogleg holes
-This course is beginner friendly, yet challenging enough for advanced players. Professionals, maybe not, but I think they would still have fun playing here. IMO
-One could introduce Disc Golf to a friend at Riverview, and/or have a fun casual round with friends.
-One could also have a competition rounds here as well. The long drives, and the holes that wind through the trees will offer a healthy challenge to a competitive round.
-For the most part, the course doesn't interfere with any of the other recreational activities going on at the rec center.
-From what I've seen, a scorecard and map are available inside rec-center. (I printed a map & scorecard, off of our own DGCR website! :D)
-Great scenic view of the river along the front nine!
-Flows nicely around the perimeter of the rec center, back to the parking lot.
-FWIW: Other activities are available here as well.
i.e. Bike and walking trails..
-Practice Basket at the start
-Good pin placement, and course design
-Bathrooms inside rec center
-Big "Fun Factor" for me.
-Plenty of parking
-Clean and well landscaped
-Two 500ft holes; Most of the holes are 250-350ft; leaving a couple of holes that are less than 250ft.
-Variety of terrain, allowing for a variety of hole types: Tight wooded, Open field, Steep hills up/down, and Multiple, as well as interesting, dogleg holes
-This course is beginner friendly, yet challenging enough for advanced players. Professionals, maybe not, but I think they would still have fun playing here. IMO
-One could introduce Disc Golf to a friend at Riverview, and/or have a fun casual round with friends.
-One could also have a competition rounds here as well. The long drives, and the holes that wind through the trees will offer a healthy challenge to a competitive round.
-For the most part, the course doesn't interfere with any of the other recreational activities going on at the rec center.
-From what I've seen, a scorecard and map are available inside rec-center. (I printed a map & scorecard, off of our own DGCR website! :D)
-Great scenic view of the river along the front nine!
-Flows nicely around the perimeter of the rec center, back to the parking lot.
-FWIW: Other activities are available here as well.
i.e. Bike and walking trails..
Cons: -The front 9 can swallow your discs; really watch the tree lines along the front nine. The ground is covered in a thick clover like plant. I lost my flick somewhere on this hole, I could have stepped on it for all I know! Oh, and there are "No trespassing" signs along this tree line as well. So I would say, use discretion, have a look out, or play dumb. …which was my plan! lol
-Continuity does get broken up on between some holes. I found myself hunting for the next tee a couple of times and I had a map. Mainly holes #4, #8, . (First timers will want to use a map, remember you can print the map off this page as well. (Links/files tab))
-The bike trail runs along side hole #1, a good shot could fade back to the bike trail. There is also a walking path that runs alongside 17, and the road runs along 18.
-Continuity does get broken up on between some holes. I found myself hunting for the next tee a couple of times and I had a map. Mainly holes #4, #8, . (First timers will want to use a map, remember you can print the map off this page as well. (Links/files tab))
-The bike trail runs along side hole #1, a good shot could fade back to the bike trail. There is also a walking path that runs alongside 17, and the road runs along 18.
Other Thoughts: I had a great time playing Riverview park. It's one I wished I had more time to play another round. I like the varying terrain, I also enjoy a scenic lookout. The view of the river on a couple of these holes was just amazing! Hole #2 has joined my list of favorite scenic holes. I also enjoyed the Doglegs on this course. #4 especially, to bad I lost my Flick. It's a 500ft dogleg left, which S's back to the right.
A person would probably be fine wearing tennis shoes, but I was glad I wore my Merrells. Just for the steep hill climbs on #7 and #9. I wouldn't be surprised if this place gets slick and sloppy after a rain.
If you are in Augusta, I would recommend Riverview as a "Must stop". It's well laid out and is challenging, but it's not overly challenging. You will have fun here! Riverview is also centrally located between Hippodrome and Lake Olmstead. So one could make an afternoon of hitting all three courses. ...If one were so inclined!
A person would probably be fine wearing tennis shoes, but I was glad I wore my Merrells. Just for the steep hill climbs on #7 and #9. I wouldn't be surprised if this place gets slick and sloppy after a rain.
If you are in Augusta, I would recommend Riverview as a "Must stop". It's well laid out and is challenging, but it's not overly challenging. You will have fun here! Riverview is also centrally located between Hippodrome and Lake Olmstead. So one could make an afternoon of hitting all three courses. ...If one were so inclined!
14 of 14 people found this review helpful.
Pros: 1... Very very very demanding of multiple shots.
2... Well manicured course.
3... Beautiful scenery and location.
4... Definately designed with disc flight in mind.
5... Just a real fun course. Not too hard. Not easy.
6... Well marked pins and fairways on signs at tee pads.
7... Very clean concrete pads.
8... Really cool hole layouts. Challenges the mind and body.
9... Practice chain set up before hole #1. But, Hole #1 is a very good "Get your bearings straight" hole.
10... One of the most fun courses i've played!
2... Well manicured course.
3... Beautiful scenery and location.
4... Definately designed with disc flight in mind.
5... Just a real fun course. Not too hard. Not easy.
6... Well marked pins and fairways on signs at tee pads.
7... Very clean concrete pads.
8... Really cool hole layouts. Challenges the mind and body.
9... Practice chain set up before hole #1. But, Hole #1 is a very good "Get your bearings straight" hole.
10... One of the most fun courses i've played!
Cons: 1... Very poor next hole markings. If you don't get a map of the course either at the front office or online, you will be guessing the whole course. Might even miss a hole or two.
2... BRING YOUR HIKING BOOTS! Woods are a big factor through the first 12 or so. some holes require a bit of adventure hiking to get to the pins.
3... Make sure to investigate possible hazards on the fairways. A couple holes run adjacent to some pretty steep drop offs into thick brush.
4... Have to walk out some fairways to see pins prior to driving. Some pins were set closer than anticipated.
****Don't let the cons discourage you to play. They might be some major factors, but the excitement and adventure while playing heavily out weighs the negative. Play it once, and you will be immediately start planning your next trip to Riverview.
2... BRING YOUR HIKING BOOTS! Woods are a big factor through the first 12 or so. some holes require a bit of adventure hiking to get to the pins.
3... Make sure to investigate possible hazards on the fairways. A couple holes run adjacent to some pretty steep drop offs into thick brush.
4... Have to walk out some fairways to see pins prior to driving. Some pins were set closer than anticipated.
****Don't let the cons discourage you to play. They might be some major factors, but the excitement and adventure while playing heavily out weighs the negative. Play it once, and you will be immediately start planning your next trip to Riverview.
Other Thoughts: I played this course on a sunday, so the front desk was closed. I did not have a map, and definatley had to be a modern day Columbus trying to find the next hole. I was excited to hone my RHBH shots and even my Flicks throughout the course. Great Course!!!!!
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Interesting use of terrain on the slopes, nice shade and wide fairways thru the woods on the first 11 holes. variety with open field shots on the last 7. I didn't play that well, but it was my own fault. this course gives you lots of chances to excel or blow it.
Cons: easy to lose a disc on the first few holes by the bluff, lost an orange sidewinder on 3, met another guy looking for his disc on 2. Had a local tell me where to go before i started or i would not have made the connections:
after hole 3, go behind the rec building for tee 4. after hole 6, go thru the pavilion for tee 7
after hole 10, go uphill across the path for tee 11 after hole 14 cross the road for tee 15.
after hole 3, go behind the rec building for tee 4. after hole 6, go thru the pavilion for tee 7
after hole 10, go uphill across the path for tee 11 after hole 14 cross the road for tee 15.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Played: 7 Reviewed: 3 Exp: 3.8 Years
Pros: Technical course utilizing many different types of shots to reach the pins. Nice tees, and good pins. Not left/right favorable.
Cons: can get a little muddy at times and a few holes run along large drop offs that can be tricky to navigate in order to retrieve errant shots.
Other Thoughts: As a beginner i have found that this is a fairly challenging, but very fun course. The terrain is constantly changing and the variety of shots needed in your repertoire is high. This course is in very good condition and is my favorite to play on in the area so far. Patriots, Pendelton, and Olmstead are the only basis for comparison. However I wish to play the IDGC's soon. I rank my courses according to the other courses in the immediate area, because I have a young family and don't get to travel.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Riverview is a large multi-use park although the DG course mostly utilizes a part of the unused park. The teepads and signs at the pads are top notch. The course offers a nice variety of tight in the woods holes with some tricky doglegs to open field grip it and rip it shots. It'll challenge most players and frustrate quite a few as the rough can be downright ugly at times. There are benches at many of the holes. # 13 was my favorite hole; around 320' to a hidden basket set down in this mowed ravine. Putts and approaches on this hole could get exciting real quickly.
Cons: I found this course a little trick to follow. After playing 1-3, I never did find the # 4 pad. A couple of next tee signs nailed to some trees would've have helped or how about hanging a metal "Next Tee" sign on the spokes of the basket pointing players to the next tee. I was also fairly lost after # 14.
Other Thoughts: I think the designers should think about putting a teepad up on the hill (next to the soocer field) and allow you to tee off to that basket visible in the woods below. Would this be # 15. Would have been a fun tee off point. I'm not quite as enamored of this course as everyone else. While I think it's a nice course with a couple of wonderful holes, I don't see it as destination type course.
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Variety really makes this course. There are plenty of wooded holes---but none insanely tight---leading to some wide-open holes at the end. The wooded holes range from birdie-runs to a long, double-dogleg on which the hole right side steep downhill and dense,so a disc can go way down and take several throws to get back up. There are severe left & right doglegs as well as thread-the-needle straight shots, and lots of up & down. Even the open holes make good use of elevation and available trees.
Cons: For top players, it's not a gold-level course; most everything can be 3ed and many 2ed. Unless you're just looking for the ultimate challenge, there's not a lot to complain about.
Other Thoughts: It's in a great multi-use park, but after the first few holes the course mostly has the land to itself. A well-used walking trail borders hole 1; on a few others holes, you need to look out for the stray walker.
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Pros: This is the best course I have played around this area (although I have only played a few courses).
It is a great combination of tight and wooded holes on the front nine to wide open from # 12 on (except for #17 which incorporates a long slow sweeping right curve on the edge of a tree line). I say tight and wooded for the front nine but that is coming from an intermediate player. The fairways, if you will, are typically about 25-35 feet wide on most of the wooded holes.
It is a great combination of tight and wooded holes on the front nine to wide open from # 12 on (except for #17 which incorporates a long slow sweeping right curve on the edge of a tree line). I say tight and wooded for the front nine but that is coming from an intermediate player. The fairways, if you will, are typically about 25-35 feet wide on most of the wooded holes.
Cons: The only real gripes I have are that sometimes the course can get pretty crowded and after rains it can make for tricky footing on some of the front nine.
Other Thoughts: If you are in the area don't miss this course. You will appreciate the layout and the typically very well maintained course. Make sure to bring some water on hot days because the back nine offers little in the way of shade. Also, for those who play here more often you should try the "alternate" tees on #14 and #15 (90 degrees from the teepad up on the hill by the road, and by the two huge telephone poles at the edge of the soccer field respectively). Just look for the 2 worn down dirt patches and get an entirely different drive for these 2 holes. Personally I think these two teepads are far more fun but are definitely a little shorter (more so on #15).
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Pros: What I personally like and how this course stacks up:
1) Holes with good risk/reward. Fair, but harsh punishment for bad decisions or execution. == A-
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities for me. I throw 300' accurately, 360' max. == B+
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography == A-
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion. == B+
5) Bonus points for multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them. == C-
1) Holes with good risk/reward. Fair, but harsh punishment for bad decisions or execution. == A-
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities for me. I throw 300' accurately, 360' max. == B+
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography == A-
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion. == B+
5) Bonus points for multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them. == C-
Other Thoughts: It's all about feeding the addiction, so I ranked this course subjectively based on my own "personal addiction factor". The grades above tell how well the course will draw me back to itself again and again and again. Since I have played a decent number of courses (125 18-hole, 64 9-hole as of mid 2009), my hope is that players/explorers who have similar addiction tastes will find my ratings list helpful as they choose courses to play and explore.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage…if what I can add anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me….that's the fun of things here. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage…if what I can add anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me….that's the fun of things here. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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