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Hole #13 (Taken 9/2009)
Hole #13 (Taken 9/2009) 
3 / 170ft.
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Reviews: 29
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Fun, tight course
Pros: Tight but fair holes abound here.
Strikingly visible baskets - best paint job ever.
Strikingly visible baskets - best paint job ever.
Cons: No long or open shots but this course is not about that....walk 5 minutes and play its twin course for that.
Other Thoughts: Best wooded course I have ever played.Only here for the 2009 World's. Kansas City probably has the best collection of DG courses in the world and this is one of the reasons why.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Report this Review Love/Hate Relationship
Pros: This course surrounds the upper course and can be reached from many holes uptop. It plays quick and has the most visible baskets in disc golf. Very easy to spot discs in the winter. Ace runs everywhere!
Cons: This course has so many trees that when you hit one in the summer, it can go missing 5ft from the hole. There are cliffs are slops that you have to pay attention to when walking or you could tumble down. Very humid since no wind can make it down there. Tee pads are uneven gravel pits. Poison Ivy.
Other Thoughts: I love this course and I hate this course. The best time to play is in the fall/winter.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Pretty Awesome!
1 
10/18/2012 
12/24/2012
Review By: bball7273 Played: 51 Reviewed: 27 Exp: 2.7 Years
This review was updated on 12/25/2012
Pros: This course is super fun. I love courses that are very hilly and havily wooded because they are such a challenge. This course didnt dissapoint. It has sick looking baskets that are yellow and orange so you can see them in the dense woods. They are really nice baskets, too. Ace oppurtunities are often on this course (I came 2 feet away on one of the holes). It was a really cool course. Benches on most holes and a few trash cans. There were alt. pin placements to make the course different every time. Pretty friendly locals.
Cons: Trash was on the course mostly at tees. There were really not many signs for the holes but the baskets were easy enough to see so it wasnt that big a deal. Tee pads were dirt which isnt so bad but i rather have concrete. The grafitti was unbearable as it was on everything! Hole 18 ends in middle of course so you have to safari to make it out.
Other Thoughts: It was a great idea of a course. It needs some work but i would for shure come back (living 3 1/2 hours away stinks). It was really a enjoyable course. If you play the top course, you should for shure come and see whats for store in the "down under"
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Not a fan of wooded courses, but this one was okay
Pros: Tons of elevation present and it's used very well. Makes walking a little tough, but it's great for the disc golf. 10/10
A large variety of shot paths are required, some left to right, some right to left, some straight, some high, some low etc. You really need every shot in the bag to do well here. 10/10
Once you find the tees, the baskets are pretty easy to find, except in a couple hole positions on some holes. 9/10
The course uses the obstacles well, they did a good job of not overdoing the how wooded the course is on most holes. 8/10
Holes have a variety of distances. Several are short enough to ace, but some are longer and require good shots for reasonable par chances. 8/10
Alternate hole positions really add something to the holes and offer different spins on many holes. 7/10
Tees are flat, and have well defined borders, but they're dirt which makes footing a little difficult. Some are a bit on the short side, and are even a little dangerous so be careful. 6/10
Definitely not a beginner course, be sure to have good control of your disc before you try it. The course is pretty challenging overall, but still provides lots of chances for birdies or even aces with great shots, there just isn't a lot of margin for error. It has the ability to challenge all levels past beginner and novice without being impossible. 6/10
A large variety of shot paths are required, some left to right, some right to left, some straight, some high, some low etc. You really need every shot in the bag to do well here. 10/10
Once you find the tees, the baskets are pretty easy to find, except in a couple hole positions on some holes. 9/10
The course uses the obstacles well, they did a good job of not overdoing the how wooded the course is on most holes. 8/10
Holes have a variety of distances. Several are short enough to ace, but some are longer and require good shots for reasonable par chances. 8/10
Alternate hole positions really add something to the holes and offer different spins on many holes. 7/10
Tees are flat, and have well defined borders, but they're dirt which makes footing a little difficult. Some are a bit on the short side, and are even a little dangerous so be careful. 6/10
Definitely not a beginner course, be sure to have good control of your disc before you try it. The course is pretty challenging overall, but still provides lots of chances for birdies or even aces with great shots, there just isn't a lot of margin for error. It has the ability to challenge all levels past beginner and novice without being impossible. 6/10
Cons: VERY hard to find discs. Many holes have steep ridges if you go very far at all of the "fairways" (rockways). Rocks can be very frustrating, as discs can hit and skip and roll at any time even after a perfect shot. Discs tend to roll down ridges, and it can be difficult and dangerous to find them 1/10
Navigation between holes is difficult at best. Many holes have multiple paths leading off into seemingly the middle of nowhere, so bring a map or a friend who's played before. 2/10
Overall comfort level: Footing is very rocky everywhere and a little treacherous in some many areas. There are "benches", but they are mostly fallen trees or stumps somewhere close to the tees. No running water or bathrooms on the actual course, so be sure to empty and fill up before you start. Lots of trees mean lots of shade which is good on a hot day. 3/10
Course maintenance: Many tee signs are missing, and the ones that are there only show what hole number it is. Trash cans are usually stuffed full and benches are uncomfortable. 3/10
There is some variety of openness in shots, but none are open at all. The variety is just between very tight and moderately tight. 4/10
Navigation between holes is difficult at best. Many holes have multiple paths leading off into seemingly the middle of nowhere, so bring a map or a friend who's played before. 2/10
Overall comfort level: Footing is very rocky everywhere and a little treacherous in some many areas. There are "benches", but they are mostly fallen trees or stumps somewhere close to the tees. No running water or bathrooms on the actual course, so be sure to empty and fill up before you start. Lots of trees mean lots of shade which is good on a hot day. 3/10
Course maintenance: Many tee signs are missing, and the ones that are there only show what hole number it is. Trash cans are usually stuffed full and benches are uncomfortable. 3/10
There is some variety of openness in shots, but none are open at all. The variety is just between very tight and moderately tight. 4/10
Other Thoughts: Very heavily wooded, but most of the obstacles are tree tree trunks, not brush and leaves, which makes the bounces more predictable and fair.
difficulty 8/10
difficulty 8/10
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Most baskets can be seen from the tee pad, good course to test your accuracy because there is very little margin for error. Has a variety of uphill and downhill shots. I threw thumbers off most of the tee pads and ended up with my first course par.
Cons: Entire course wraps around the side of a big hill which makes it crucial to never take your eyes off any rollers. There are also no signs on the baskets, and many of the tee pads are not marked as well.
Other Thoughts: One of the best courses I have played in KC.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
the good, the bad and the ugly
Pros: challenging and plays quick.
Cons: bad intersection in the middle of the course. long walk back after completion. Never played a course that didn't finish where it started. Trash cans were overflowing on my first visit, but debris was removed upon my second visit a few days later.
Other Thoughts: take time to print a map and bring bug spray.
Ultimately I think this is a diamond in the rough.
Ultimately I think this is a diamond in the rough.
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Pros: -baskets are bright, easy to see and in better shape the the up top baskets
-amazingly, benches and trash cans on every tee
-super well maintained for a woods course, lots of man made bridges and stairs
-about as good as a woods course is gonna get
-amazingly, benches and trash cans on every tee
-super well maintained for a woods course, lots of man made bridges and stairs
-about as good as a woods course is gonna get
Cons: -worn as hell, the tees are dirt and so are the fairways
-navigation is confusing in some places, moreso than whats normal
-the intersection of 9,12,17,18 is mildly dangerous
-signage is terrible
-crowded
-navigation is confusing in some places, moreso than whats normal
-the intersection of 9,12,17,18 is mildly dangerous
-signage is terrible
-crowded
Other Thoughts: Down Under is as advertised; short, technical and woods. I was more than satisfied. motto should be "down under and higher than up top" :/
3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Intermediate
Pros: - Course is set in the woods that belong inside a multi-use park, but well away from anything else going on. Definitely no interference here from anything non-DG related.
- Every hole here is set in the woods, start to finish. A good variety of different lines of varying difficulty. Some are ridiculously tight, like #1, #5, and #16. Pinpoint precision is needed to get to the basket, or just stay out of the jail. All of the others just need very good accuracy, there are very few chances to relax.
- A lot of dead-nuts straight shots are needed here, but there are also some BH and FH hyzers to be found, or maybe some annys/thumbers/whatever gets the disc down there. The funky lines here include a sharp hyzer on #8 (if mando), a little hook on #12, and a long RHFH flex shot on #17.
- Lots of hilliness here, both in the holes and next to them. Multiple valley shots, like #11, a nice downhill on #10 and #13, a blind uphill on #16, pretty good variety on the back nine. A constant feature are some very nasty rollaways/jail next to fairways, a bad kick here or there could be disastrous to scoring and inventory. The woods and hills provide some tricky basket placements as well.
- Nice new baskets... signs are pretty suspect, and the teepads are a little rough. Checking out the map beforehand is highly recommended. Navigation can be tricky.
- Every hole here is set in the woods, start to finish. A good variety of different lines of varying difficulty. Some are ridiculously tight, like #1, #5, and #16. Pinpoint precision is needed to get to the basket, or just stay out of the jail. All of the others just need very good accuracy, there are very few chances to relax.
- A lot of dead-nuts straight shots are needed here, but there are also some BH and FH hyzers to be found, or maybe some annys/thumbers/whatever gets the disc down there. The funky lines here include a sharp hyzer on #8 (if mando), a little hook on #12, and a long RHFH flex shot on #17.
- Lots of hilliness here, both in the holes and next to them. Multiple valley shots, like #11, a nice downhill on #10 and #13, a blind uphill on #16, pretty good variety on the back nine. A constant feature are some very nasty rollaways/jail next to fairways, a bad kick here or there could be disastrous to scoring and inventory. The woods and hills provide some tricky basket placements as well.
- Nice new baskets... signs are pretty suspect, and the teepads are a little rough. Checking out the map beforehand is highly recommended. Navigation can be tricky.
Cons: - Some very short hole lengths, with the average around 230'. The tight lines still keep things nice and interesting, but there are few chances to rip a drive. It is definitely fun, but a little repetitive/similar.
- Layout is pretty jacked up, a lot of missing signs and rough teepads, and backtracking. Getting to #12 involves walking past another hole's basket, for instance.
- Layout is pretty jacked up, a lot of missing signs and rough teepads, and backtracking. Getting to #12 involves walking past another hole's basket, for instance.
Other Thoughts: - A very fun course that challenges players to tone it down and focus almost entirely on accuracy over distance. Even the smallest arms will be able to reach most of the pins here, it all comes down to line shaping and hitting small windows. Throw in some decent elevation changes, and things get very interesting and fun. A little one-dimensional, but it's a good dimension.
- Probably fun for everyone at least once, though beginners might be frustrated to no end. Also, a perfect complement to the Top course.
- Probably fun for everyone at least once, though beginners might be frustrated to no end. Also, a perfect complement to the Top course.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
It's cool down under
1 11/25/2011 11/27/2011
Review By: stubborn puppet 
Played: 32 Reviewed: 19 Exp: 2.3 Years
This review was updated on 5/15/2013
Pros: .
> Cool location for a course.
> Challenging/punishing in a fun way.
> Creative layout.
> A few really neat views/vistas and other features that you don't see often enough.
> As a previous reviews title says, this course is a mental workout.
> This course would be ideal on a hot day, because it's all in the shady woods.
> Excellent baskets that are both bright/easy to see and catch very well.
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> Cool location for a course.
> Challenging/punishing in a fun way.
> Creative layout.
> A few really neat views/vistas and other features that you don't see often enough.
> As a previous reviews title says, this course is a mental workout.
> This course would be ideal on a hot day, because it's all in the shady woods.
> Excellent baskets that are both bright/easy to see and catch very well.
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Cons: UPDATED. Course has been rearranged and very little concern has been taken to mark the changes. A real mess of confusion has been left in the wake.
> Very poorly marked tees are now mostly unmarked tees. I have no idea whether I just played the right tee-to-basket or where to go next.
> Terrible navigation issues, so bring a map, ask a local and pay attention.
> Tees are barely adequate and even dangerous in a couple of spots (especially the 30' drop off the end of the bare rock face tee at 11... jeesh.)
> Cross-traffic safety was an issue at two different holes where players must walk in the path of discs to get to the next tee.
> Getting back to the parking lot from 18 was just silly as it ends right in the middle of the course layout and you still have to walk across a few of the holes you've already played and then right across the middle of the Rosedale Upper course... just dumb.
> The trash was pretty bad and the cans, which were plentiful, needed changing badly.
> Graffiti was out of control here. It was on everything, everywhere and I've never seen so many badly drawn penis's before in my life. What gives people?
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> Very poorly marked tees are now mostly unmarked tees. I have no idea whether I just played the right tee-to-basket or where to go next.
> Terrible navigation issues, so bring a map, ask a local and pay attention.
> Tees are barely adequate and even dangerous in a couple of spots (especially the 30' drop off the end of the bare rock face tee at 11... jeesh.)
> Cross-traffic safety was an issue at two different holes where players must walk in the path of discs to get to the next tee.
> Getting back to the parking lot from 18 was just silly as it ends right in the middle of the course layout and you still have to walk across a few of the holes you've already played and then right across the middle of the Rosedale Upper course... just dumb.
> The trash was pretty bad and the cans, which were plentiful, needed changing badly.
> Graffiti was out of control here. It was on everything, everywhere and I've never seen so many badly drawn penis's before in my life. What gives people?
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Other Thoughts: UPDATED.
I had a good time playing this course... the first time I went, especially since it reminds me of several woodsy, nine hole courses that I love to play, but is a full 18. Now, it was simply a nightmare.
Playing in the woods can really beat you up mentally (perhaps even physically if you have to scramble down a steep ravine to recover from a tree hit or a roll). If you want to know how psychological of a game disc golf is, play this course, then go play a wide open course right afterwards to see the effects. Very interesting.
I sure hope to see some improvements made here in the way of new tees, better marking, landscape repair to prevent more runoff and maybe even some improved navigation by reorganizing a couple of holes... and get this place cleaned up. I can only imagine the impression all the trash and graffiti leaves on new DG players and the public.
This course has been neglected and the laziness of the reorganization has left it practically unplayable. I'm sorry to offend, but I'm lost how such potential is being wasted by a lack of concern and the "little things". Put up some darn tee signs, put up some arrows and get a new map made.
I had a good time playing this course... the first time I went, especially since it reminds me of several woodsy, nine hole courses that I love to play, but is a full 18. Now, it was simply a nightmare.
Playing in the woods can really beat you up mentally (perhaps even physically if you have to scramble down a steep ravine to recover from a tree hit or a roll). If you want to know how psychological of a game disc golf is, play this course, then go play a wide open course right afterwards to see the effects. Very interesting.
I sure hope to see some improvements made here in the way of new tees, better marking, landscape repair to prevent more runoff and maybe even some improved navigation by reorganizing a couple of holes... and get this place cleaned up. I can only imagine the impression all the trash and graffiti leaves on new DG players and the public.
This course has been neglected and the laziness of the reorganization has left it practically unplayable. I'm sorry to offend, but I'm lost how such potential is being wasted by a lack of concern and the "little things". Put up some darn tee signs, put up some arrows and get a new map made.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Fun, yet challenging
Pros: Course winds through a beautiful forest. Short, technical drives.
Cons: Very steep, lost discs very possible without a spotter
Other Thoughts: Fun course for KC. Reminded me of a few courses I played in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Steep inclines. I only played with my mid and putter.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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