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Reviews: 29
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Improving and growing
Played: 23 Reviewed: 3 Exp: 6.9 Years
Pros: Alternate sleeves are now in use.
Many pickers and dead branches have recently been removed.
Tee 15 now has a paving stone tee.
Many pickers and dead branches have recently been removed.
Tee 15 now has a paving stone tee.
Cons: Finding all the holes is difficult.
Finding all the tees for all the holes is more difficult.
The signage is poor where the signage exists.
Finding all the tees for all the holes is more difficult.
The signage is poor where the signage exists.
Other Thoughts: Wear orange hunting is permitted.
Wear boots and stop whining.
This is NOT a 27 hole course. This is currently a 34 hole course (14 of those holes are now on their own course page as FEW-top) and 9 of those 34 have alternate sleeves. There are also two more holes in the works which will take FEW to a 36 hole course by summer 2013.
Wear boots and stop whining.
This is NOT a 27 hole course. This is currently a 34 hole course (14 of those holes are now on their own course page as FEW-top) and 9 of those 34 have alternate sleeves. There are also two more holes in the works which will take FEW to a 36 hole course by summer 2013.
1 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Not great
Played: 12 Reviewed: 10 Exp: 2 Years
Pros: -Concrete tees(except for #15)
-Multiple pin positions on some holes
-Decent variety of holes will test a lot of different shots
-Good variety in terms of hole lengths
-Multiple pin positions on some holes
-Decent variety of holes will test a lot of different shots
-Good variety in terms of hole lengths
Cons: -Course layout was pretty poor some pins were difficult to locate
-Poor signage, navigation was often difficult
-Hole layout signs were non descriptive and often times misleading
-A lot fot eh baskets were in poor condition, rusty, not solid, etc.
-The benches on the course were all in a state of disrepair and broken. And some holes had chairs that looked like they'd just been pulled from a dumpster.
-Poor signage, navigation was often difficult
-Hole layout signs were non descriptive and often times misleading
-A lot fot eh baskets were in poor condition, rusty, not solid, etc.
-The benches on the course were all in a state of disrepair and broken. And some holes had chairs that looked like they'd just been pulled from a dumpster.
Other Thoughts: Overall I was not impressed with this course. I think a lot of landscaping needs to be done here. Also look at rearranging holes a bit. For example hole 17 ends towards the parking lot and then 18 takes you further away from the lot. It also seems that with the marshy land this course would be unplayable with any kind of rain or bad weather.
Also, this is NOT a 27 hole course, this is an 18 hole course and 9 of the pins have alternate pin placements.
Also, this is NOT a 27 hole course, this is an 18 hole course and 9 of the pins have alternate pin placements.
1 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Pros: There are many different shots on this course, left/right and hilly. Also many varying distances that make the course more interesting to play. Fairways are fairly open but possibilities of landing in thick pine trees that can be hard to get out of.
Thought the baskets on top of rocks were interesting and gave you a different look for putting
concrete teeboxes with signs and wooden ladder paths help you navigate the course
Thought the baskets on top of rocks were interesting and gave you a different look for putting
concrete teeboxes with signs and wooden ladder paths help you navigate the course
Cons: The concrete teeboxes were too short. It was hard to get a good run up at times.
The first few holes are easy to get to but after that is difficult. There are not enough signs around and it can take a bit difficult to find the next teebox. Some arrows can be easily moved so it can throw you off if they are pointed the wrong way. Hard to find the tee for hole#15 and theres no sign for it. Hole#18 takes you away from the parking lot
Some of the baskets cannot be seen from the teebox so you have to take a little walk to see where it is before you throw
It can get very thick and marshy so it can be easy to lose a disc, especially on an errant throw
The first few holes are easy to get to but after that is difficult. There are not enough signs around and it can take a bit difficult to find the next teebox. Some arrows can be easily moved so it can throw you off if they are pointed the wrong way. Hard to find the tee for hole#15 and theres no sign for it. Hole#18 takes you away from the parking lot
Some of the baskets cannot be seen from the teebox so you have to take a little walk to see where it is before you throw
It can get very thick and marshy so it can be easy to lose a disc, especially on an errant throw
Other Thoughts: The course was good but i did not like it very much. Maybe I would have enjoyed it more if we didnt play right after a storm with a tornado warning... but we still had fun playing on this course. We originally planned on playing at Hickory Run but a giant branches falling everywhere made us turn around to a nearby mcdonalds until the storm passed a bit and there we decided to go to FE Walter. Glad i got to play this course
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Bring your "A" game and your gortex
Played: 12 Reviewed: 11 Exp: 1.8 Years
Pros: Makes excellent use of many natural alleys for the fairways.
Superb tee pads. A small but dedicated group of locals maintain and improve the course.
The unique landscape is used nicely.
Some holes have permanent alternate baskets, while others are movable.
2 outstanding new holes (the "Lopper's Loop" between 10 and 11) offer challenges different from the rest of the track while providing alternate flow when the 11th fairway is flooded.
New holes are in the works; in short; F.E.W. keeps getting better.
Easy access, right off I-80, 476 (pa turnpike) and PA940, and close enough to PA115 and I-81.
Superb tee pads. A small but dedicated group of locals maintain and improve the course.
The unique landscape is used nicely.
Some holes have permanent alternate baskets, while others are movable.
2 outstanding new holes (the "Lopper's Loop" between 10 and 11) offer challenges different from the rest of the track while providing alternate flow when the 11th fairway is flooded.
New holes are in the works; in short; F.E.W. keeps getting better.
Easy access, right off I-80, 476 (pa turnpike) and PA940, and close enough to PA115 and I-81.
Cons: Holes 3, 5, and 11 in particular are very poorly drained. Not the designers fault, just the nature of the land here.
Some trouble finding the way once past hole 6.
Number 18 takes you away from the parking area, but this no big deal. You can just replay 16 and 17 to take you back.
Some trouble finding the way once past hole 6.
Number 18 takes you away from the parking area, but this no big deal. You can just replay 16 and 17 to take you back.
Other Thoughts: This course has a look all its own. Mostly an open course, but the vegetation comes into play more than you would first think.
Some holes have elevated baskets. Kinda cool once you get used to them. When the wind is blowing, things get tough.
This course grows on you. You can throw a variety of shots, though it does seem to favor a big hyzer (RHBH).
Holes 6,7,and 8 are a tough stretch and the rest of the course has a nice variety of length.
Some holes have elevated baskets. Kinda cool once you get used to them. When the wind is blowing, things get tough.
This course grows on you. You can throw a variety of shots, though it does seem to favor a big hyzer (RHBH).
Holes 6,7,and 8 are a tough stretch and the rest of the course has a nice variety of length.
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
BIG Course
Played: 13 Reviewed: 13 Exp: 2 Years
Pros: This course is excellent for the novice to the pro with several alternative holes and tees and terrain extremes from the Rocky "surface of Mars" to trees and bomber shots. Wild blueberries abound, please remember to drop a few to reseed the plants!
Cons: Played this course yesterday afternoon 4/7/2012, unfortunately, someone playing this course, or hanging out in the back 9, started a brush fire! The holes from 4B to 8B have been affected! The holes themselves were saved but you should expect to have to clean your discs of soot for a while! The undergrowth and a large portion of the wild blueberries have been burned!!! Please remember to pack out your butts and keep the "camp fires" to a minimum.
Getting more difficult to navigate this course, as the signs are getting old and some are missing.
Ticks all year and a breeding ground for snakes too.
Remember to respect the wildlife.
Getting more difficult to navigate this course, as the signs are getting old and some are missing.
Ticks all year and a breeding ground for snakes too.
Remember to respect the wildlife.
Other Thoughts: The road past the course is fairly well traveled and it seems like the locals enjoy running over Discs! :-( Other than that it is a GREAT 27 hole afternoon ... bring lots of water and possibly some food! Picnic areas close by.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Dam
Pros: lots of different looks at baskets
basket locations are cool some raised some sunk
huge area
long drives
basket locations are cool some raised some sunk
huge area
long drives
Cons: ticks
cant play after rain
cant see most baskets from tee box
hard to stay in order
cant play after rain
cant see most baskets from tee box
hard to stay in order
Other Thoughts: cool course cause it says theres 27 holes but with all the added tee boxes you can play all day. first time i went there i jumped in with a group of people who turned out to have made the course so it was a good experience.
2 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Lots of elevation and obstacles to navigate around. Its good for a big arm with control. It's open enough that the wind current comes from all angles and the pockets on a hole change drastically.
Cons: No water hazards here but if it rains anytime within the last month bring your muddy shoes. This is by a dam and the ground gets very swampy. The local club has built a lot of walkway bridges to assist you. This is some of the major changes they did in the last decade.
LOTS OF TICKS!!!!
LOTS OF TICKS!!!!
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Pros:
27 (or more) holes. Front 18 have concrete teepads and signs with basic info. The extra nine holes, which I'll refer to as 19-27, have very beautiful natural tees (crush stoned framed by larger local stone), and half these holes have alternate tee locations (wooden framed). Some benches, some small wooden walking paths in the worst boggy areas.Food/petrol nearby at the I80/I476 intersection, and solid-but-quite-different Hickory State just a bit further beyond in the same direction.
27 (or more) holes. Front 18 have concrete teepads and signs with basic info. The extra nine holes, which I'll refer to as 19-27, have very beautiful natural tees (crush stoned framed by larger local stone), and half these holes have alternate tee locations (wooden framed). Some benches, some small wooden walking paths in the worst boggy areas.Food/petrol nearby at the I80/I476 intersection, and solid-but-quite-different Hickory State just a bit further beyond in the same direction.
Cons:
Holes 6 and 20 share a basket. Number-17 is closer to parking lot than number-18 - essentially #18 takes you away from the basket, then you return down the fairway to find the path to the parking lot.
Holes 6 and 20 share a basket. Number-17 is closer to parking lot than number-18 - essentially #18 takes you away from the basket, then you return down the fairway to find the path to the parking lot.
Other Thoughts:
Course plays slightly up, down, and across very unusual terrain. The ground for holes 6-9, 20-26 is very rough and rocky, while grass will blanket the ground on the other holes. You'll always have the sky overhead, but there are plenty of randomly scattered trees - mostly pines, some quite tall, with long branches and needles, other pines very thick, short (barely waist-high), with tiny needles. Occasional groups of small white birches and clumps of hardwoods complete this very diverse landscape
The first five holes are fairly flat, vary in tightness, and are a bit left-turn oriented. Holes 6-9 stretch you arm out as you work your way up the rough slope of tree-lined fairways, with scattered trees to force some shot-shaping along the way. Holes 10-13 offer you similar choices - straight/gentle turners through tight windows near the basket, or spike-hyzers up-n-over the top of mid-sized trees. Numbers 14-15, and 17 stretch you out again, with narrower-but-softer fairways than before, while 16 and 18 require accurate right-turns. Holes 19-27 will offer a variety of holes, starting with 200' #19 and ending with 400' #27, up/down/cross slope, mostly straight/S-shape, except for very sharp left-turning #23, and a decent downhill on #26, woods left, tiniest pond in front, trees behind and right of basket.
Navigation: The day (7/26/10) I played, basket-15 was in place. Basket-9A was NOT, but 9B was. So, if you really want to play 9B (from basket-9, you may see it, straight ahead in the distance), go right after playing #9, find 9A's tee, find the wood teepee to the right, walk to it, find the hole for the basket to its left, and keeping heading that direction, a bit of a scramble up a rocky bank. Find the natural tee, and now look left - 9B is now nearly 800' feet away.
To find holes 19-27, look for a small, slightly uphill path to the right, just before reaching #6's teepad. You should eventually find a natural looking teepad, and to your left, about 200' away, a blue basket - this is #19. Numbers 20 and 21 play roughly in the same direction - #20 shares a basket with #6, so look to the left to find tee #21. Number-22 will play about 90-degrees to the right of the direction you've been heading, and number-23 will change your orientation to the right again. From basket-23 turn 45-degrees to the right to find tee-24, the basket being hard to the left. Slight left for tee-24, basket further left. Hard right from there to find tee-26, the basket down the hill, woods left, small pond just in front. From basket-26 go right to find tee-27, basket-27 quite some distance away, down the hill. After finishing at basket-27, exit right, then hard left down the broad gravel path When the path becomes grassy and just before the bushes are fund along the sides, turn 45-degrees to the right, down a small path, to return to tee-6.
Navigating 19-27 sounds harder than it is, and the holes were really good, and the natural tees looked incredible - make the effort to find/play these holes! From a terrain-perspective, probably the most unusual course I've played, other than The Dunes of Cape Henlopen
Course plays slightly up, down, and across very unusual terrain. The ground for holes 6-9, 20-26 is very rough and rocky, while grass will blanket the ground on the other holes. You'll always have the sky overhead, but there are plenty of randomly scattered trees - mostly pines, some quite tall, with long branches and needles, other pines very thick, short (barely waist-high), with tiny needles. Occasional groups of small white birches and clumps of hardwoods complete this very diverse landscape
The first five holes are fairly flat, vary in tightness, and are a bit left-turn oriented. Holes 6-9 stretch you arm out as you work your way up the rough slope of tree-lined fairways, with scattered trees to force some shot-shaping along the way. Holes 10-13 offer you similar choices - straight/gentle turners through tight windows near the basket, or spike-hyzers up-n-over the top of mid-sized trees. Numbers 14-15, and 17 stretch you out again, with narrower-but-softer fairways than before, while 16 and 18 require accurate right-turns. Holes 19-27 will offer a variety of holes, starting with 200' #19 and ending with 400' #27, up/down/cross slope, mostly straight/S-shape, except for very sharp left-turning #23, and a decent downhill on #26, woods left, tiniest pond in front, trees behind and right of basket.
Navigation: The day (7/26/10) I played, basket-15 was in place. Basket-9A was NOT, but 9B was. So, if you really want to play 9B (from basket-9, you may see it, straight ahead in the distance), go right after playing #9, find 9A's tee, find the wood teepee to the right, walk to it, find the hole for the basket to its left, and keeping heading that direction, a bit of a scramble up a rocky bank. Find the natural tee, and now look left - 9B is now nearly 800' feet away.
To find holes 19-27, look for a small, slightly uphill path to the right, just before reaching #6's teepad. You should eventually find a natural looking teepad, and to your left, about 200' away, a blue basket - this is #19. Numbers 20 and 21 play roughly in the same direction - #20 shares a basket with #6, so look to the left to find tee #21. Number-22 will play about 90-degrees to the right of the direction you've been heading, and number-23 will change your orientation to the right again. From basket-23 turn 45-degrees to the right to find tee-24, the basket being hard to the left. Slight left for tee-24, basket further left. Hard right from there to find tee-26, the basket down the hill, woods left, small pond just in front. From basket-26 go right to find tee-27, basket-27 quite some distance away, down the hill. After finishing at basket-27, exit right, then hard left down the broad gravel path When the path becomes grassy and just before the bushes are fund along the sides, turn 45-degrees to the right, down a small path, to return to tee-6.
Navigating 19-27 sounds harder than it is, and the holes were really good, and the natural tees looked incredible - make the effort to find/play these holes! From a terrain-perspective, probably the most unusual course I've played, other than The Dunes of Cape Henlopen
7 of 9 people found this review helpful.
Pros: This location is isolated from any other state park users. When you pull into the parking lot there are two port-a-potties. This is a unique terrain for a PA disc golf course, and I thought it was fun to play. It has the feel of playing some place like New Mexico not Pa. Most holes are in the 250-300' range with 4 about 400+. There are 9 additional holes located further back beyond the 18 holes up front. There are some great shots on the back 9 that are enjoyable with natural tees that blend into the surroundings. Crushed stone tee pads with rocks surrounding the tees as benches and stone lined walk ways. These are all repainted baskets that had rusted up on the front 18. They are painted bright colors that stand out and make them easy to spot. Some shoot down hill, others up and even one that shoots over a small pond.
Concrete tees on most of the 18 front holes. There are quite a few blind tees, so you have to walk out and get a look. The difficulty in playing many of these holes is that they look simple and you underestimate them. The fairways are quirky and sometimes appear narrow due to the scrub pines. These pines are drive killers and won't let you shoot through. On a errant drive or approach they will stop and drop you into a crap lye. If you try to drive up and over your discs will go for a elevator ride in wind pockets. So what appears simple, is not and you are in for a few surprises. Many holes have benches, logs, rocks to sit on and even a glider on one hole. Many baskets have extend flags on top so you can see them better from a distance.
Concrete tees on most of the 18 front holes. There are quite a few blind tees, so you have to walk out and get a look. The difficulty in playing many of these holes is that they look simple and you underestimate them. The fairways are quirky and sometimes appear narrow due to the scrub pines. These pines are drive killers and won't let you shoot through. On a errant drive or approach they will stop and drop you into a crap lye. If you try to drive up and over your discs will go for a elevator ride in wind pockets. So what appears simple, is not and you are in for a few surprises. Many holes have benches, logs, rocks to sit on and even a glider on one hole. Many baskets have extend flags on top so you can see them better from a distance.
Cons: The basket for hole 15 is missing and we had to use hole 18's basket as a substitute. We had 3 groups of people looking for basket 15, gone. We did find the pole cup in the ground broken where it should have been.
The map for the front 18 works and you can follow the trails for the most part to the next tees. To play the back 9 you need a guide, they aren't on the map, don't have tee signs and the baskets are numbered funky like 1b, 2b. The back 9 would be a great play if they had flow and where incorporated into the course as 27 holes. To find some you walk up a trail after hole #3 away from the parking lot. You can find 5 holes if you look around. The next 4 will be found walking out from 14 and looking hard. No tee signs, no signs to point them out and they aren't on the map. This course is played on the top of a ridge with a lot of stone and little shade. So be smart bring the sun screen and extra water. There is no water supply here and when we played it was in the 90's.
The concrete tees! Thanks for the work but many are to short and you can't get a X-step off of them. They need to be like 4 feet longer, yet some are okay. I guess someone caught on after half were poured.
It appears this area holds water after heavy rains, because there were a lot of wood walk ways. Stone and rock fields don't drain well, but it was completely dry when we played.
The map for the front 18 works and you can follow the trails for the most part to the next tees. To play the back 9 you need a guide, they aren't on the map, don't have tee signs and the baskets are numbered funky like 1b, 2b. The back 9 would be a great play if they had flow and where incorporated into the course as 27 holes. To find some you walk up a trail after hole #3 away from the parking lot. You can find 5 holes if you look around. The next 4 will be found walking out from 14 and looking hard. No tee signs, no signs to point them out and they aren't on the map. This course is played on the top of a ridge with a lot of stone and little shade. So be smart bring the sun screen and extra water. There is no water supply here and when we played it was in the 90's.
The concrete tees! Thanks for the work but many are to short and you can't get a X-step off of them. They need to be like 4 feet longer, yet some are okay. I guess someone caught on after half were poured.
It appears this area holds water after heavy rains, because there were a lot of wood walk ways. Stone and rock fields don't drain well, but it was completely dry when we played.
Other Thoughts: I think this is a great park and a lot of fun to play. It's a work in progress and some improvements are evident. I really liked the natural settings on the back 9 tees. Hard to find, but better than the short concrete tees for run ups. I know it's a lot of work but they should use the local stones to enhance the course. This is a unique course and they should capitalize on it. Maybe even rock piles or arrows of stone showing the next tee. Spray paint the rocks to make them stand out for directions. This could easily be a 4+ rated course with some hard work and good thinking. For those that need food or other amenities it's just 2-3 miles up the road where 476 & 80 meet.
8 of 10 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Has 18 featured holes plus an additional 9 in another area of the Dam. With its unique topography ranging from grassy fairways and landing areas to asteroid-like rocky ground, F.E. Walter Dam starkly contrasts many of the other Eastern PA disc golf courses. Good mix of both open holes and ones scattered amidst pine trees, providing a challenging and unusual obstacle throughout the course. Signage is present and navigation is relatively easy. Baskets are all in good shape. Some course improvements have been made, including cement tee pads at numerous holes and wooden walkways/planks in particularly swampy areas of the course. Good balance of distance ranging from 200-800 feet, with most holes in the 300-400 range. Close to hotels, gas and food if you're paying a visit.
Cons: While I appreciate the effort at getting cement tee pads installed, they are too short. Swampy areas around some of the holes are a mess after rainfall. Signs, while adequate, are basic and don't stand out. Only a few holes have benches/logs to rest on and none have poles to hang your bag on. No ammenities at The Dam near the course.
Other Thoughts: While this is not a bad course- it is challenging and unique in many ways- I must be honest: I didn't care for it much. Others will disagree with me and be perfectly fine with it. Half the course is loaded with overgrown, tall grass in the fairways and the other half feels like you're playing in a rock quarry. Pine trees are drive killers at multiple holes unless you have a great tomahawk in your arsenal. It has none of the inherent beauty of many of the other fine disc golf facilities in the state. The novelty of the surface and overall appearance is worth a look but not repeat visits.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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