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Reviews: 26
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worth the trip
Pros: This course has a really neat layout, with a nice combination of holes and differing pin locations. Good signage with a round disc pointing out the basket location, as A, B or C. Despite this, rarely can you see the basket you are throwing to. You will get to use all sorts of throws to get around the tree obstacles, though it is certainly within reason to score a few birdies with good shots.
Cons: The tee boxes are not very solid, basically carpeted dirt, and the limited space can make it difficult to figure out which basket you should be throwing at. Also, the numbers on the basket are not very visible, and rarely pointed at the tee box, so you have to walk all the way to them, and around them before you figure out what number the basket has. Of course, the dreaded Napa roll can and will strike when you screw up, but that is part of the game.
Other Thoughts: Skyline Park is a great multi-use park with hiking, biking, horseback riding and an archery course. You can camp out there, and all the activities are well worth the minimal $5 per car entry fee. There is a nice walk from the parking lot to the first tee, maybe a half mile, and I would highly recommend hiking shoes or boots. I played it in my Chacos, and the steep slopes and high grass when you go off course make for difficult walking. There is also a good bit of poison oak and brambles, so long pants are not out of the question.
This is the first course i ever played, and is pretty difficult compared to the others. I go out there every time I am in Napa, and really love it. It's basically my California home course, and easily as challenging, though different, from my La home course, Buhlow.
This is the first course i ever played, and is pretty difficult compared to the others. I go out there every time I am in Napa, and really love it. It's basically my California home course, and easily as challenging, though different, from my La home course, Buhlow.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Report this Review Roll away in the Napa Wilderness
Pros: Skyline Wilderness offers excellent variety and is absolutely worth the $5 entry fee. When you enter the park and start the 10-15 minute hike to Hole #1, it is very easy to see why this is a top-notch course.
Although this is a muti-use facility, the disc golf course is well separated from other activities.
More than a few times during the round, I found myself soaking in the panoramic views and taking pictures instead of concentrating on my next throw.
The tee signs on every hole certainly helped with navigation.
The teepads were a mix of concrete and rubber. I understand the locals are working to install concrete pads on all of the holes. There were also brooms and benches on most of the teepads, which is very nice.
The baskets are not new, but they are in good shape.
Elevation is utilized very well on most of the holes here. I heard a few groups mention the "Napa Rollers" that easily turn a birdie into a bogey or double bogey. Thankfully, I did not experience my own Napa Roller until #14.
While there were plenty of warning signs for the local wildlife, I did not see any boars, snakes or anything else.
There are plenty of opportunities to throw hyzers, anhyzers, thumbers and pretty much any other shot you are able to throw.
Similar to other California courses I have played (Coyote Point, Ryan Ranch, Stafford Lake, etc) this is a physically demanding course and it is not for the faint of heart. Bring plenty of water, snacks, etc. You will not want to run back to the parking lot in the middle of a round here.
Although this is a muti-use facility, the disc golf course is well separated from other activities.
More than a few times during the round, I found myself soaking in the panoramic views and taking pictures instead of concentrating on my next throw.
The tee signs on every hole certainly helped with navigation.
The teepads were a mix of concrete and rubber. I understand the locals are working to install concrete pads on all of the holes. There were also brooms and benches on most of the teepads, which is very nice.
The baskets are not new, but they are in good shape.
Elevation is utilized very well on most of the holes here. I heard a few groups mention the "Napa Rollers" that easily turn a birdie into a bogey or double bogey. Thankfully, I did not experience my own Napa Roller until #14.
While there were plenty of warning signs for the local wildlife, I did not see any boars, snakes or anything else.
There are plenty of opportunities to throw hyzers, anhyzers, thumbers and pretty much any other shot you are able to throw.
Similar to other California courses I have played (Coyote Point, Ryan Ranch, Stafford Lake, etc) this is a physically demanding course and it is not for the faint of heart. Bring plenty of water, snacks, etc. You will not want to run back to the parking lot in the middle of a round here.
Cons: As other reviews have mentioned, there is no huge downhill bomber shot. While the terrain certainly allows for it, I was somewhat disappointed in the lack of at least 1 opportunity to truly grip it and rip it here.
I'm reaching now, but the lack of concrete teepads is always a con for me. I also noticed that some of the rubber teepads were too short. I typically use a 3 or 4 step approach and did not have enough room on several holes.
I'm reaching now, but the lack of concrete teepads is always a con for me. I also noticed that some of the rubber teepads were too short. I typically use a 3 or 4 step approach and did not have enough room on several holes.
Other Thoughts: The $5 entry fee will come along with a rough course map. I found that the map was not completely accurate. However, this only caused a problem for me between #13 and #14.
Napa is not for beginners, especially those that do not know how to handle constant elevation changes. Having said that, any new players should check out some other courses and then find a guide and get to Napa for a very challenging and fun disc golf experience.
Napa is not for beginners, especially those that do not know how to handle constant elevation changes. Having said that, any new players should check out some other courses and then find a guide and get to Napa for a very challenging and fun disc golf experience.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
Mountain Goat Course
Pros: Fantastic scenery. My 20-something daughter stopped playing and just took photos. The steep hills are a great walking workout. Fun to do some of those swooping downward throws. Good rubber pads. Nice baskets. Hills plus trees and wind made this a very challenging course.
Cons: Costs $5 to get into the park, but it's worth it.
Other Thoughts: If you wear shorts, your legs will get scratched up from the scrubby thorny bushes.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Sweet spot
Pros: Read all the pros on the other reviews, they are all true. If you love a good disc course this is it. You follow a ridge through little draws and along the face of the ridge. Lots of great things about this course including a wilderness feel, no road noise. There are a variety of throws available but if you love the tomahawk throw you will especially love it here.
Cons: Long walk but its just part of the courses draw.
Other Thoughts: One of the best courses I have been to. Great views of napa valley. Play it if you can!
2 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Another Cali Wilderness Course! 
Pros: Skyline Wilderness is another California course cut from the same rugged wilderness terrain as Stafford Lake, Lake Casitas and Ryan's Ranch. That is rugged rolling hills, mature oaks, deep cut ravines, srub brush, some panoramic views and wildlife abounds. As with the other courses it makes for the almost perfect topography on which to build a course. This is a private campground. We played on a Friday in August and the cost was $6. So the course was at it's driest and brownest but the grass was not so long. There is a fairly long hike in past the archery range (just over a 1/4 mile) past the sign warning you about wild boar, rattle snakes and mountain lions. This is not a course for families or newbies. Or the un-armed. Maybe bring your 45 cal. discs. We did see deer and also caught glimpses of wild turkeys on a couple of occasions. It's for the serious player up to the tournament level player. The pads were extra long rubber with brooms at each hole. They were benches usually placed in the shade. Great informative signs. Great variety of long-short-right-left holes. 3-5 basket placements per holes would make playing the course a different expierience each time out.
Cons: I felt # 16 played like a filler hole. All others had a fair route while this one just felt it had been stuck in there. Didin't care for it! The long walk in at the beginning and end. Bring water and maybe snacks. Doesn't have the natural beauty of Lake Casitas or Stafford Lake. The dreaded Napa roll got me on one hole and definitely adds to the challenge. Doesn't have a scenic "Top Of The World Shot."
Other Thoughts: A not to be missed course in the Bay Area. It's fun to compare it to the other so very similar courses. This is pretty much a carbon copy of the Ryan's Ranch course in Monterey. Play it and compare the two. Play it and compare your score. Play it and compare your sunburn and blisters, and aching bones.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
What's in a name? 
Pros: NorCal wilderness. Virtually perfect land for a course. It has everything you need to build a course around with the exception of a water hazard. Mutliple basket positions. Good signs at the tee pads with a washer and screw that show current position. Navigation was simple. Trails are pretty obvious. Good use of trees and elevation to create challenging holes. Basket positions were good. Nothing seemed squeezed in without a plan. I was also never bored, or felt like there was repetitive shots.
It's tough, but there are ace and birdie opportunities. I hit 3 birdies my first time out. Thank you thumber!. It helps to be able to go over the trees on some holes.
Course is off a trail well away from the rest of the park. You are in the wilderness. Bring water.
It's tough, but there are ace and birdie opportunities. I hit 3 birdies my first time out. Thank you thumber!. It helps to be able to go over the trees on some holes.
Course is off a trail well away from the rest of the park. You are in the wilderness. Bring water.
Cons: Rubber tee pads. They are in good shape, but not concrete. I didn't really have any problems with them so I 'd rate this as a pretty insignificant con. They could be better, but they don't have a negative effect.
Long walk to course from the parking area. Including walking along the archery range. Yes, that's what all those fake elk are about. I hope the archers are good. Horse poop on the trail. You are sharing the trail so watch where you walk.
Some blind shots that should really have a spotter. Tall grass also makes locating discs tough. The name says wilderness for a reason. A few of the holes are very heavily wooded, and have significant 'rough'. Watch where you throw.
Long walk to course from the parking area. Including walking along the archery range. Yes, that's what all those fake elk are about. I hope the archers are good. Horse poop on the trail. You are sharing the trail so watch where you walk.
Some blind shots that should really have a spotter. Tall grass also makes locating discs tough. The name says wilderness for a reason. A few of the holes are very heavily wooded, and have significant 'rough'. Watch where you throw.
Other Thoughts: A nice, solid course. The cons are pretty small. Course plays fair, and makes you use multiple shots. I would highly recommned this course as a destination spot. It's only about 30 minutes form Stafford Lake and close to all the joys of wine country.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Napa Roll Pros: Before you get to the course there is a practice tee nice for worming up. The hike to the course is not bad.Beautiful setting in the Napa Valley. Multiple pin placements makes it a great challenging course.
Cons: "NAPA ROLL" and poisen oak
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Get Ready 
2-4 
10/17/2009 
11/14/2009
Review By: Magiken 
Played: 35 Reviewed: 35 Exp: 3.8 Years
This review was updated on 3/15/2010
Pros:
Beautiful views
Wide variety of holes
Benches
Nice park overall
Good tee boxes
Poles for disc-in-tree retrieval, brooms, fire extinguishers, trash cans
Beautiful views
Wide variety of holes
Benches
Nice park overall
Good tee boxes
Poles for disc-in-tree retrieval, brooms, fire extinguishers, trash cans
Cons:
Mean mean MEAN rollaways on a few holes
Impossible pin location on one hole (around 13-15, temporary maybe?)
Mean mean MEAN rollaways on a few holes
Impossible pin location on one hole (around 13-15, temporary maybe?)
Other Thoughts:
Tips:
Bring water
Bring more water
Bring snacks
Use the restroom before you hike to #1
Random Thoughts:
I really struggled with this review. My girlfriend and I are beginners and we love a good hike. Having said that, we started this course and had a great time through the first 3rd, although this definitely isn't a beginner course as most holes are well outside our range, but once we got to what I will call 'The Devil's Slope', things changed. The bottom line on the holes in this area is that you can throw a good or even great throw and if the disc gets on its edge, kiss it goodbye, because it's going to roll down the slope a loooooooooong way, and even throwing it back from the bottom of the slope may just have it roll right back to you or even past you. In truth, this was quite funny the first few times it happened, but right around the 4th or 5th sweaty trek, it lost some of the fun. I found myself wondering if this was a fair fight. Who knows, maybe it's better at certain times of the season. But here's the thing, it finished up well on the last few holes, I look back on it and laugh...and I can't wait to go back. The Pros simply outweigh the Cons.
Bottom line: Bring water. Get ready for a hike. Set aside three hours. You'll laugh, cry, and swear, but it'll be fun.
Update 11/2009: We played this again a couple weeks ago during a tournament. WOW. I didn't realize how much more difficult this course could get when they moved the baskets to the pro spots. I have a lot of improvement to make... They were also installing some more improvements such as new signs, which are MUCH better. I'm also 90% sure that the basket I mention above is either a duplicate or remnant or something. It's around the basket area for 13 and as there was another basket in the area, I'm reasonably confident you don't need to throw at the impossible one. Anyway, keep up the great work guys!
Update 03/2010: Got to play this again with the latest improvements. All new signs are up and most of the holes are back in human-range (more on this in a minute). I also think I figured out the mystery basket, which is now non-duplicated. I believe this basket is used twice. I believe it's the basket for 13 and for 15A which I didn't see before until they put basket #14 on the far side of the moon (Love this shot btw but wow is it far). 15A is a tough tough shot. I see why it's an alternate. The conditions are also quite a bit different this time of year with the grass high. The rollaways are still lurking but not quite as much. Now, back to the basket positions .attention Mr. and/or Miss Course Designer(s), I have a question: Seriously, EVERY shot is a par 3? Really?! Not even a hint of an amateur par 4 on some of those over 400 ft. uphill shots? I mean, no love at all?! Seriously though, even if it is so that the 3 reigns supreme, I continue to love this course and appreciate your efforts. I just think it might be the hardest course to shoot par on in the Bay Area, with the longer basket positions anyway. Not that this is a bad thing. It just means I have lots of practice ahead of me.
Tips:
Bring water
Bring more water
Bring snacks
Use the restroom before you hike to #1
Random Thoughts:
I really struggled with this review. My girlfriend and I are beginners and we love a good hike. Having said that, we started this course and had a great time through the first 3rd, although this definitely isn't a beginner course as most holes are well outside our range, but once we got to what I will call 'The Devil's Slope', things changed. The bottom line on the holes in this area is that you can throw a good or even great throw and if the disc gets on its edge, kiss it goodbye, because it's going to roll down the slope a loooooooooong way, and even throwing it back from the bottom of the slope may just have it roll right back to you or even past you. In truth, this was quite funny the first few times it happened, but right around the 4th or 5th sweaty trek, it lost some of the fun. I found myself wondering if this was a fair fight. Who knows, maybe it's better at certain times of the season. But here's the thing, it finished up well on the last few holes, I look back on it and laugh...and I can't wait to go back. The Pros simply outweigh the Cons.
Bottom line: Bring water. Get ready for a hike. Set aside three hours. You'll laugh, cry, and swear, but it'll be fun.
Update 11/2009: We played this again a couple weeks ago during a tournament. WOW. I didn't realize how much more difficult this course could get when they moved the baskets to the pro spots. I have a lot of improvement to make... They were also installing some more improvements such as new signs, which are MUCH better. I'm also 90% sure that the basket I mention above is either a duplicate or remnant or something. It's around the basket area for 13 and as there was another basket in the area, I'm reasonably confident you don't need to throw at the impossible one. Anyway, keep up the great work guys!
Update 03/2010: Got to play this again with the latest improvements. All new signs are up and most of the holes are back in human-range (more on this in a minute). I also think I figured out the mystery basket, which is now non-duplicated. I believe this basket is used twice. I believe it's the basket for 13 and for 15A which I didn't see before until they put basket #14 on the far side of the moon (Love this shot btw but wow is it far). 15A is a tough tough shot. I see why it's an alternate. The conditions are also quite a bit different this time of year with the grass high. The rollaways are still lurking but not quite as much. Now, back to the basket positions .attention Mr. and/or Miss Course Designer(s), I have a question: Seriously, EVERY shot is a par 3? Really?! Not even a hint of an amateur par 4 on some of those over 400 ft. uphill shots? I mean, no love at all?! Seriously though, even if it is so that the 3 reigns supreme, I continue to love this course and appreciate your efforts. I just think it might be the hardest course to shoot par on in the Bay Area, with the longer basket positions anyway. Not that this is a bad thing. It just means I have lots of practice ahead of me.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
Truly a great day of Discing
Pros: Beautiful setting in the napa valley with beautiful views and very natural setting. Much wildlife and well maintained park with camping horsebackriding and the like. The course is a challenge for any player as the variety on shots that you need to score well (-3 or -4) for an experienced player. it is advised to use a spotter on many of the holes as you may get a bad roll or skip and there are some spots that will eat some plastic. only $5 to get a day pass and there is a store down the road that sells discs if you loose something you dont have a double. If the family likes the out doors this is a great destination = fun for all. never saw more than 10 people on the course and no waiting ever there is a thursday night weekly 5:00pm $5 with an ace pool. a great group of guys and a good place to go to get an invete to "the arm farm" also in napa.
Cons: there are some patches of poison oak here and there but not near ant pathes but a stray disc may be discovered in a patch and in the ckeek bed ith weeds will hide a lost disc ouy could walk right over it and never see it. Rough landings near some of the baskets can be hard on dicscs bot worth it to sacrifice for a great shot. The trees are pretty thick and can hold onto a high driver but there are poles and long pvc tubes under the most popular traps to try to get them down with
Other Thoughts: the bonus hole between 14 &15 is a nice bonus if you dont get in the brambles. i yhink this is one of the nicest courses i have played in california
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Beautiful and Challenging
Pros: This is one of the best courses I've played in California, and also one of the most picturesque. It is situated along the north side of the mountains on the southeastern edge of Napa Valley in Skyline Wilderness Park. It is amazing that a course this nice can be found in what is truly a wilderness area (they say there are mountain lions, bears, etc. on occasion). We saw all sorts of wildlife, I paused several times while teeing off for a herd of deer to cross the fairway.
The landscape is classic rolling California hills and valleys, with varying degrees of chaparral and some larger trees along creeks. Old stone walls from the ranchero days can be found along some sides of the course.
There is a good amount of topography on this course, and the design makes great use of these features. One of my favorite holes played over a valley that sloped steeply to the left...if you throw right-hand backhand and the disc stalls out too early, it'll fade all the way downhill and you'll have a descent/climb to retrieve your disc.
Some holes are grassy fairway lined with small trees and shrubs, some play over wide-open valleys, and some play over shrubs and small trees. There are both right and left turning holes, and quite a few are blind (i.e., no view of the basket from the tee).
The rubber tees are very nice, the foundations flat and stable, and the signage is great. Brooms are ubiquitous for sweeping, which is often needed. If you set a fire, extinguishers are available for you to put it out before it burns the whole place down.
At the entrance gate to the park (where you will pay a park-use fee) you can borrow/rent discs. they also seem to have a last-and-found collection there, but I'm not sure how it works.
The landscape is classic rolling California hills and valleys, with varying degrees of chaparral and some larger trees along creeks. Old stone walls from the ranchero days can be found along some sides of the course.
There is a good amount of topography on this course, and the design makes great use of these features. One of my favorite holes played over a valley that sloped steeply to the left...if you throw right-hand backhand and the disc stalls out too early, it'll fade all the way downhill and you'll have a descent/climb to retrieve your disc.
Some holes are grassy fairway lined with small trees and shrubs, some play over wide-open valleys, and some play over shrubs and small trees. There are both right and left turning holes, and quite a few are blind (i.e., no view of the basket from the tee).
The rubber tees are very nice, the foundations flat and stable, and the signage is great. Brooms are ubiquitous for sweeping, which is often needed. If you set a fire, extinguishers are available for you to put it out before it burns the whole place down.
At the entrance gate to the park (where you will pay a park-use fee) you can borrow/rent discs. they also seem to have a last-and-found collection there, but I'm not sure how it works.
Cons: The hike to the course isn't long or difficult, but it also isn't very scenic until you get to the course itself. (Really this isn't a con so much for me, I like to loosen my legs with a walk after driving in the car, before playing a round.)
It would be nice if they could put a small bathroom/toilet out there some where for the ladies, maybe next to the incoming trail near #1.
It would be nice if they could put a small bathroom/toilet out there some where for the ladies, maybe next to the incoming trail near #1.
Other Thoughts: When we were on on the course, we really felt like we were well-secluded from the rest of the world. This is a very nice feeling on such a beautiful course.
There are a lot of opportunities to lose your disc if you are throwing long into blind areas...maybe get your partners to spot on some of the holes.
There are a lot of opportunities to lose your disc if you are throwing long into blind areas...maybe get your partners to spot on some of the holes.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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