9 Helpful / 0 Not
Another Cali Wilderness Course!
Pros: Skyline Wilderness is another California course cut from the same rugged wilderness terrain as Stafford Lake, Lake Casitas and Ryan's Ranch. That is rugged rolling hills, mature oaks, deep cut ravines, srub brush, some panoramic views and wildlife abounds. As with the other courses it makes for the almost perfect topography on which to build a course. This is a private campground. We played on a Friday in August and the cost was $6. So the course was at it's driest and brownest but the grass was not so long. There is a fairly long hike in past the archery range (just over a 1/4 mile) past the sign warning you about wild boar, rattle snakes and mountain lions. This is not a course for families or newbies. Or the un-armed. Maybe bring your 45 cal. discs. We did see deer and also caught glimpses of wild turkeys on a couple of occasions. It's for the serious player up to the tournament level player. The pads were extra long rubber with brooms at each hole. They were benches usually placed in the shade. Great informative signs. Great variety of long-short-right-left holes. 3-5 basket placements per holes would make playing the course a different expierience each time out.
Cons: I felt # 16 played like a filler hole. All others had a fair route while this one just felt it had been stuck in there. Didin't care for it! The long walk in at the beginning and end. Bring water and maybe snacks. Doesn't have the natural beauty of Lake Casitas or Stafford Lake. The dreaded Napa roll got me on one hole and definitely adds to the challenge. Doesn't have a scenic "Top Of The World Shot."
Other Thoughts: A not to be missed course in the Bay Area. It's fun to compare it to the other so very similar courses. This is pretty much a carbon copy of the Ryan's Ranch course in Monterey. Play it and compare the two. Play it and compare your score. Play it and compare your sunburn and blisters, and aching bones.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Tough to beat Napa
Pros: I have played pretty much all the courses in the Bay Area, and this one has recently become my most favorite. There's just so much to recommend it. A few of the best attributes:
-Nice layout, use of terrain
-Nice variety of holes, some short, some longer, different curves
-Great shaded chill spots next to every hole. Especially crucial cause it gets hot out there
-Super well marked, best tee signs I have ever seen at any course
-Nice walk out to the course
-Never anyone there, even on a weekend
-Plenty of birdieable holes
-At the same time, plenty of challenging holes where if you hit some trees you could easily end up with a 6
-Also some tough landing areas, where if you miss it you could roll a long way
-Not too far away (50 mins from Berkeley)
Cons: -Hot hot hot. Just played on a July Sunday and it was 90 degrees. It's manageable, but definitely takes something out of yo.
-A lot of trees, and the trees are easy to get stuck in
-A couple holes are kind of stupid in the sense that the pathway for driving is so small, it's a little ridiculous. But even those make for decent holes cause if you get through they are typically short
-It could do with one or two longer holes. There are not a lot of holes where you can really open up and let loose. Although that can be good if you are playing with a mixed group because length becomes less of an issue.
-Needs better tee pads, but really not a big issue.
Other Thoughts: I just really like playing this course. it's well put together, beautiful terrain, good conditions. Fun days guaranteed for sure.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 0 Not
What's in a name?
Pros: NorCal wilderness. Virtually perfect land for a course. It has everything you need to build a course around with the exception of a water hazard. Mutliple basket positions. Good signs at the tee pads with a washer and screw that show current position. Navigation was simple. Trails are pretty obvious. Good use of trees and elevation to create challenging holes. Basket positions were good. Nothing seemed squeezed in without a plan. I was also never bored, or felt like there was repetitive shots.
It's tough, but there are ace and birdie opportunities. I hit 3 birdies my first time out. Thank you thumber!. It helps to be able to go over the trees on some holes.
Course is off a trail well away from the rest of the park. You are in the wilderness. Bring water.
Cons: Rubber tee pads. They are in good shape, but not concrete. I didn't really have any problems with them so I 'd rate this as a pretty insignificant con. They could be better, but they don't have a negative effect.
Long walk to course from the parking area. Including walking along the archery range. Yes, that's what all those fake elk are about. I hope the archers are good. Horse poop on the trail. You are sharing the trail so watch where you walk.
Some blind shots that should really have a spotter. Tall grass also makes locating discs tough. The name says wilderness for a reason. A few of the holes are very heavily wooded, and have significant 'rough'. Watch where you throw.
Other Thoughts: A nice, solid course. The cons are pretty small. Course plays fair, and makes you use multiple shots. I would highly recommned this course as a destination spot. It's only about 30 minutes form Stafford Lake and close to all the joys of wine country.
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -Beautiful setting
-Nice footpath to first tee. Feels like your hiking into secluded back country to play a round. This was great being a visitor to the course but I can see how it can get old if you're a local.
-Very well maintained
- Good tee pads with brooms and benches
-Great elevation change
-Full spectrum of technicality with most holes being technical to very technical
-Not too busy. My buddy and I came in the middle of the day and we only saw one other group playing the course
-Nice signs that indicate basket placement
-uphill and downhill holes
Cons: -No dogs allowed (disc golf is a little lonely without my furry companion)
-Needs some longer, more open bomber holes
-Pay to play
-Might consider upgrading to cement tees
-Grass can get long requiring some searching to find your disc
Other Thoughts: Although many of the holes are on the short side, they are mostly uphill which requires giving everything you have to reach the basket on your drive. World Class Course. Must play if in Northern Cali
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Roll, roll, rollin away
Pros: -Beutifull location with hills, valleys, creeks, mature oaks, wildlife, and great views.
-Lots of variety, uphill, downhill, sidehill, across valleys, left turning, right turning, etc...
-Secluded seting in the hills of Napa, close to town, but far enough away to not feel crowded by the city.
-Challenging. I saw some of the best players I know chewed up by this course.
-Benches on most holes
-Area of the park thats not used much by other park users
-Fire Extingushers on every hole
-Multiple pin positions on all holes
-Rubber teepads in good condition with brooms on each hole.
-Great Locals, these guys are lots of fun.
Cons: -Some holes almost require you to throw a thumber (hole 15).
-"Napa Rolls": The art of landing within 20' of the basket (or hitting the basket) then rolling 300' down the hill behind you.
-Signage didn't feel 100% accurate.
-Not a beginers course, as it will beat up on even an experenced golfer
Other Thoughts: Napa is a beutifull course with many great fun holes that will both challenge and entertain players with some experence in disc golf. For beginers and people who are out of shape this course will frustrate and wear you out. It is full of massive elevation change throughout the course. Some holes I thought were a little unfair if you don't have a big thumber in your bag (hole 15). Everyone it seems, no mater how good you are, will get at least one disc that will roll away and down the hill way far away from where you want it, this is just the way it is, that's Napa for you. Make sure to bring some snacks and water as this will be a long round.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Before you get to the course there is a practice tee nice for worming up. The hike to the course is not bad.Beautiful setting in the Napa Valley. Multiple pin placements makes it a great challenging course.
Cons: "NAPA ROLL" and poisen oak
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 1 Not
A perfect 18
Pros: -Probably the most beautiful setting of any course I've ever been to.
-Good Signage - each hole has a pretty new map
-Makes for a good variety of shots - short and long, uphill and downhill, low visibility and high visibility.
-It's pretty accessible. If you are going to the Napa Valley, chances are you'll find yourself within a few miles of this course at some point.
Cons: -Tees are a little short, which is understandable considering most of them are carved out of the hill the course is on. They are in very good condition though.
-My wife thinks the course could have been more spread out, but I didn't think that was a problem.
Other Thoughts: Gave it 5 stars because I think it's pretty much perfect for what it is. Not the longest, most difficult course, but it's very well designed, kept in great shape, and more picturesque than any course I've seen.
3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Wide variety of holes
Nice park overall
Good tee boxes
Poles for disc-in-tree retrieval, brooms, fire extinguishers, trash cans
Mean mean MEAN rollaways on a few holes
Impossible pin location on one hole (around 13-15, temporary maybe?)
Bring more water
Use the restroom before you hike to #1
I really struggled with this review. My girlfriend and I are beginners and we love a good hike. Having said that, we started this course and had a great time through the first 3rd, although this definitely isn't a beginner course as most holes are well outside our range, but once we got to what I will call 'The Devil's Slope', things changed. The bottom line on the holes in this area is that you can throw a good or even great throw and if the disc gets on its edge, kiss it goodbye, because it's going to roll down the slope a loooooooooong way, and even throwing it back from the bottom of the slope may just have it roll right back to you or even past you. In truth, this was quite funny the first few times it happened, but right around the 4th or 5th sweaty trek, it lost some of the fun. I found myself wondering if this was a fair fight. Who knows, maybe it's better at certain times of the season. But here's the thing, it finished up well on the last few holes, I look back on it and laugh...and I can't wait to go back. The Pros simply outweigh the Cons.
Bottom line: Bring water. Get ready for a hike. Set aside three hours. You'll laugh, cry, and swear, but it'll be fun.
Update 11/2009: We played this again a couple weeks ago during a tournament. WOW. I didn't realize how much more difficult this course could get when they moved the baskets to the pro spots. I have a lot of improvement to make... They were also installing some more improvements such as new signs, which are MUCH better. I'm also 90% sure that the basket I mention above is either a duplicate or remnant or something. It's around the basket area for 13 and as there was another basket in the area, I'm reasonably confident you don't need to throw at the impossible one. Anyway, keep up the great work guys!
Update 03/2010: Got to play this again with the latest improvements. All new signs are up and most of the holes are back in human-range (more on this in a minute). I also think I figured out the mystery basket, which is now non-duplicated. I believe this basket is used twice. I believe it's the basket for 13 and for 15A which I didn't see before until they put basket #14 on the far side of the moon (Love this shot btw but wow is it far). 15A is a tough tough shot. I see why it's an alternate. The conditions are also quite a bit different this time of year with the grass high. The rollaways are still lurking but not quite as much. Now, back to the basket positions
.attention Mr. and/or Miss Course Designer(s), I have a question: Seriously, EVERY shot is a par 3? Really?! Not even a hint of an amateur par 4 on some of those over 400 ft. uphill shots? I mean, no love at all?! Seriously though, even if it is so that the 3 reigns supreme, I continue to love this course and appreciate your efforts. I just think it might be the hardest course to shoot par on in the Bay Area, with the longer basket positions anyway. Not that this is a bad thing. It just means I have lots of practice ahead of me.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Truly a great day of Discing
Pros: Beautiful setting in the napa valley with beautiful views and very natural setting. Much wildlife and well maintained park with camping horsebackriding and the like. The course is a challenge for any player as the variety on shots that you need to score well (-3 or -4) for an experienced player. it is advised to use a spotter on many of the holes as you may get a bad roll or skip and there are some spots that will eat some plastic. only $5 to get a day pass and there is a store down the road that sells discs if you loose something you dont have a double. If the family likes the out doors this is a great destination = fun for all. never saw more than 10 people on the course and no waiting ever there is a thursday night weekly 5:00pm $5 with an ace pool. a great group of guys and a good place to go to get an invete to "the arm farm" also in napa.
Cons: there are some patches of poison oak here and there but not near ant pathes but a stray disc may be discovered in a patch and in the ckeek bed ith weeds will hide a lost disc ouy could walk right over it and never see it. Rough landings near some of the baskets can be hard on dicscs bot worth it to sacrifice for a great shot. The trees are pretty thick and can hold onto a high driver but there are poles and long pvc tubes under the most popular traps to try to get them down with
Other Thoughts: the bonus hole between 14 &15 is a nice bonus if you dont get in the brambles. i yhink this is one of the nicest courses i have played in california
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Beautiful and Challenging
Pros: This is one of the best courses I've played in California, and also one of the most picturesque. It is situated along the north side of the mountains on the southeastern edge of Napa Valley in Skyline Wilderness Park. It is amazing that a course this nice can be found in what is truly a wilderness area (they say there are mountain lions, bears, etc. on occasion). We saw all sorts of wildlife, I paused several times while teeing off for a herd of deer to cross the fairway.
The landscape is classic rolling California hills and valleys, with varying degrees of chaparral and some larger trees along creeks. Old stone walls from the ranchero days can be found along some sides of the course.
There is a good amount of topography on this course, and the design makes great use of these features. One of my favorite holes played over a valley that sloped steeply to the left...if you throw right-hand backhand and the disc stalls out too early, it'll fade all the way downhill and you'll have a descent/climb to retrieve your disc.
Some holes are grassy fairway lined with small trees and shrubs, some play over wide-open valleys, and some play over shrubs and small trees. There are both right and left turning holes, and quite a few are blind (i.e., no view of the basket from the tee).
The rubber tees are very nice, the foundations flat and stable, and the signage is great. Brooms are ubiquitous for sweeping, which is often needed. If you set a fire, extinguishers are available for you to put it out before it burns the whole place down.
At the entrance gate to the park (where you will pay a park-use fee) you can borrow/rent discs. they also seem to have a last-and-found collection there, but I'm not sure how it works.
Cons: The hike to the course isn't long or difficult, but it also isn't very scenic until you get to the course itself. (Really this isn't a con so much for me, I like to loosen my legs with a walk after driving in the car, before playing a round.)
It would be nice if they could put a small bathroom/toilet out there some where for the ladies, maybe next to the incoming trail near #1.
Other Thoughts: When we were on on the course, we really felt like we were well-secluded from the rest of the world. This is a very nice feeling on such a beautiful course.
There are a lot of opportunities to lose your disc if you are throwing long into blind areas...maybe get your partners to spot on some of the holes.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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