wooot wooooo... you sound like a c-c-c-choo choo train
Pros: Aesthetic-- plays through a large wooded park. Small amount of amenities that don't really interfere/intertwine with DG. The train tracks are nothing short of phenomenal... amazing the work that must go into them to maintain them.
Teesigns-- nice, with basic outline of the holes, distance and hole number. I can see where putting the tee number on all four sides of the top of the tee sign would help with routing here.
Routing and nav-- not terrible but not great. it's not always apparent where the next tee is until you're on the teepad. As mentioned above, it would be helpful to put the hole number on all sides of the teesign.
Teepads-- long but super narrow. make for a awkward followthrough and x-step. there are some long holes here that will require a run-up.
Cons: Dual teepads-- I am fully convinced that the second set of tees are superfluous here. they don't offer a ton of difference between the first and second round and don't really add a different dynamic. I am pretty sure this course would be better served with a 9-hole course only.
Water retention-- soupy ground in many places. not terrible but not great.
Tripping hazards-- while the train tracks are pretty sweet, they do present some pretty serious tripping hazards if you aren't paying attention.
Garbage-- a ton of garbage and broken beer bottles litter this course. there were no garbage cans present when we played.
Baskets-- wonky and bent a lot of the time. horribly UNvisible in most places.
Other Thoughts: nice park with a nice feel but has a ton of room for improvement.
Simple, yet effective
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Pros: Great setting; clean, quiet, city park in suburban USA - well maintained and easy to get to with plenty of parking.
• Makes great use a moderately wooded section of the park to provide some challenging holes; fairways require decent accuracy off the tee, but are open enough for a good rip. Several trees figure prominently on every hole, emphasizing shot shaping.
• Not a just pitch'n'putt, has a nice mix of distances - over half the holes exceed 300' with couple topping 400 ft.
• While this set-up with 18 tees and only 9 baskets is less than optimal, the dual pads really do make the most of 9 baskets and IMO is executed quite well to provide significantly different looks, and often have you throwing completely different discs/shots at the same basket, to provide a full round of 18.
• Simple wooden tee posts installed in the past couple of years show distance and direction and REALLY improve getting from hole to hole. (May not seem like much, but finding the next tee was a significant shortcoming on this course).
• Short walk to next tee - great for squeezing in a quick 9 or 18 hole round if you're tight on time and traffic is light (weekday afternoons, evenings).
• No nasty underbrush.
Cons: Formally posted on a couple of signs near the course: NO DISC GOLF12-4 PM the 1st weekend of each month (see Other Thoughts).
• I don't mind fly pads: they provide sure footing and prevent the tee area from getting worn out - they can't do either if they're missing chunks and are badly torn up (which a few of them are). Players could easily catch an edge and take a spill on a drive if they're not careful.
• Missing tee posts for holes: 8, 11, and 13. Doesn't look like they were broken or stolen, there's no indication they were ever installed.
• Most holes are relatively straight, requiring only moderate amounts of hyzer or annie. Can feel repetitive by the time you get to the 2nd round for holes 10-18. They could have worked in some more extreme curves.
• Dual tees makes more efficient use of baskets, but it can mean you have to wait a bit: you step up to tee 10, only to find you have to wait for some players to finish on hole 1.
• Completely flat (not that you can do much about it).
Other Thoughts: Rating bumped from 2.5 to 3.0: Recently added Tee markers really enhance navigation, and concrete pads are a big improvement over the old, chopped up fly pads.
Starr-Jaycee is a solid course and pairs well with Wagner (1.25 miles away) for nice day's discing. They really made the most given the available land and the need to co-exist with other park activities. Course isn't on land dedicated to disc golf, but is fairly well isolated from most other park activities in a multi-use city park that gets decent traffic (just watch out for people around the pavilion when playing holes 8 & 17).
Miniature train tracks run throughout the heart of the course. DG is prohibited a couple of afternoons a month so kids can ride the trains. Sometimes I think the old guys who drive (and maintain) the trains enjoy it more than the kids do! All they're asking for is a couple of afternoons a month. The least we can do is respect that - it's their park, too. Kudos to the City of Royal Oak for having the cajones to set some rules and avoid some of the safety issues that often plague similar multi-use park settings.
There's a pavilion with bathrooms near the course, but they were locked last couple of times I played (weekday evenings).
Convenience store a few blocks away sells discs and typical snacks/drinks. Lots of eateries nearby.
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Great course in public park
Pros: - Great location in suburban park close to many residential areas. Ample parking is available.
- Dual tees for each hole allow for a full found of 18 shooting on 9 baskets. Alternate tees vary in difficulty when compared to original tees, and all alternates provide additional variety to each hole.
- Course layout available on large sign next to first tee. Distances and tee boxes marked very clearly on each hole.
- Good use of wooded areas to increase difficult. Overall good variation, providing chance for long drives while also requiring a few technical shots into protected baskets.
- Course, and park in general, are fairly well maintained. Multiple shelters and trash cans are available on site.
Cons: - Tee pads are rubber and several have weathered to the point of missing large pieces.
- While signage is better than a lot of courses I've played, dual tees make the course somewhat difficult to navigate the first time around. Not every basket is marked with a number, which adds to the confusion.
- The park is pretty active, and the course plays right through the middle of the property, so you'll have to share the space with runners, bikers, and other park patrons. In particular, Hole 9/18 was shut down this summer for an outdoor theater stage.
- The park shuts down for disc golf once a month as a miniature train provides rides to kids.
- Lots of leaves, even in the middle of summer, could result in discs burying themselves in the fairway.
- No real elevation changes. This course might be a little monotonous for a more experienced player.
Other Thoughts: This is one of three courses within a short drive of my in-laws home in suburban Detroit, and I started here based on reviews I read on this site. The course is located on a small city park in a residential area of Royal Oak. Locals will know this as the "train park," as a miniature train setup runs throughout the park and operates the first full weekend of each month, giving rides to kids. While this shuts down disc golf for that day, I can't begrudge children of that awesome opportunity.
Overall I was very pleased with the course. I am by no means a great player, but I wasn't at all bored with the layout. I think it's a perfect fit for both beginners and the slightly more experienced. While pro level players will probably find it a bit short and straightforward, I was very impressed with how they managed to used the landscape they had available to them to make a challenging course. Lots of holes are wooded, while some allow for bombing drives. I'm also impressed with the length they managed to get on the course despite an otherwise limited amount of real estate.
Located in the heart of the residential area, it's an incredibly convenient place to play, and I can definitely recommend the course to anyone in the area looking for a casual game.
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Pros: The course plays very fluid and flows from hole to hole. Tee pads are clearly marked with hole numbers and distances. Course laid out across the back half of the park, each hole has a different layout, some require straight shots, others curving around trees. The course isn't challenging, but not necessarily the most simple. Has something for everyone.
Very nice people around the course.
Cons: Flat course, with dual tee pads, confusion can occur on busy days. The only sign for the course is the map near the first tee behind the large play structure, this can make the first trip to the course a little slow to start.
Some of the fly pads have been torn up and need repair.
Other Thoughts: Very nice park, trees everywhere so play is shaded and cool even on sunny days. With no water hazards and all holes far enough away from the roads, course is relatively forgiving for beginners/the occasional bad throw.
Despite the course being large, flat and wooded area, it does its absolute best and is enjoyable.
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