Miamisburg, OH 
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 One of my favorite Dayton courses

5+    8/6/2012   9/27/2012
Review By: douglowe
Played: 45  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 6.1 Years
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course is very challenging, without beating you up like another local course I won't mention. There are a lot of elevation and terrain changes that add to the fun. The best advice I can give is to not rush and go with the first shot that comes to mind. Quite a few of these holes take some creativity to shoot well on.
Cons: This course is not easy to navigate. The signs have needed replaced for quite some time now. If you're a newer player and not up for a real challenge, this isn't the course for you.
Other Thoughts: Download one of the maps for the course from this site before going for the first time. That's why maps exist. If you can't take the time to investigate a course a little bit before playing it, don't come on here afterwards and complain about how hard it was to find your way around.

This course is in my top 3 in the Dayton area. If you're anywhere in the vicinity I would deflinitely take the time to check Sycamore out. Every hole is unique and has it's own "personality". Don't get discouraged if you don't shoot par, because most non-pro players here don't.

Also, don't jugde the course based on the photos on this site. I've played there numerous times and these photos don't do it justice.

4 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Poorly maintained and marked

1    8/20/2012   8/20/2012
Review By: DragonVT
Played: 7  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 7.1 Years
2 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Lovely park, good location. Friendly and helpful player community.
Cons: Course is poorly maintained and marked. Many of the holes have no markings or layouts, and the holes do not flow from one to the next. You will spend more time looking for the next tee than playing. There is no par rating on any of the holes.

Problem Holes:
Hole 1: Fun, challenging hole, once you figure out where it is. The tee is not marked. The basket is not visible from the tee, or walking down the fairway. My game almost ended before it started. If some helpful players hadn't told me where it was, I never would have found it. The basket is across a creek bed, and up a hill. It is not visible until you climb the hill.

Hole 4: Ridiculous. Fairway is about three feet wide, with a steep, heavily wood hill on the right, for the entire length of the hole. I skipped it, since I didn't want to play "find the disk" for an hour.

Hole 10: The entire right side borders 725. I played the hole, but it made me nervous. I was concerned that I would peg a passing car with my disc.

Hole 11: This is where I quit. I couldn't find the tee. The path from the 10th basket leads you to tee 14. That tee is not even marked. I played through it, only to see a 14 on the basket when I got to the end. I then tried to find the 11th tee to no avail. When I got home, I used the map online to find it. You are supposed to walk past the 14 tee, into more woods, and find it. There are no signs to indicate this. Apparently, you are just supposed to know.

Other Thoughts: I won't be back. The course is not marked and isn't intuitively navigable. You will spend more time looking for tees and baskets than playing the game. This is a shame, because the course has some good holes and great potential, but without basic layouts and maintenance, it isn't playable. If you are considering playing this course, I recommend going with someone that is already familiar with the course. Otherwise, you will regret wasting your time.

2 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 The Sycamore

5+    7/29/2012   8/6/2012
Review By: preludedrew
Played: 71  Reviewed: 44  Exp: 9.1 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Pro calibur coarse, extreme variety, extreme walking required, great 18 holes, open and wooded.
Cons: Really tough, youll find discs and lose them.
Other Thoughts: they just started addding some more trees, Hole 1 basket now sits atop stairs on a cement mound.

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 tough and hard to navigate

1    7/21/2012   7/22/2012
Review By: Oldmanplayin
Played: 18  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 27.1 Years
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: You will need every shot you have for this course and then some. Fairly clean and well maintained. Easy access of I-75. Great place to work on lines. The wooded holes are tough and will make you think,,,twice. There are blind hole and you need to look for the pin before just tossing 'em out there. Great baskets. Practice basket and driving area.
Cons: Your best bet is to find someone who knows the course or follow a group. This is the most difficult course to follow I have ever played. Some of the holes have no rhym or reason as is #1 & #2. Especially 1, it really seemed to be a stupid layout. 2 is actally a shootable hole just difficult. A couple of regulars let me play with them which made it bearable. They scored +8 and +12 and have been playing 15+ years. This course will test your skill which is not a con
Other Thoughts: To me it is dumb to spend all that money on baskets and teepads and not to put up a few 2$ signs directing you to the next tee. It would take a few rounds here to know your way around . If you go by yourself you will spend more time hunting for the tee than playing. The reason I only gave it a 2 is for the next hunt for a tee, very frustrating map or not.

2 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Learned to play here...

5+    2/28/2012   3/15/2012
Review By: TheSkid
Played: 3  Reviewed: 3
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course is a must play for anyone in Dayton. It has everything a solid disc golf course needs. Open holes on 5,6,10,14 and 18. Nice mix difficulty in the wooded holes as well. 13 has a row of 5 trees directly in the fairway just off the tee. Course is well maintained.
Cons: Lack of signage is a problem for new players. There is an alternate tee on hole one because the first tee is almost washed out. Navigation from the basket of 10 to the tee for 11 does nt flow at all.
Other Thoughts: This course is maintained by a very nice man my friend and I were fortunate enough to meet. He is active in forward development of the course. That being said, the course is always changing. Bring water and maybe even a small snack as it is a hike to play this course.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Mixed Feelings

1    11/24/2011   12/10/2011
Review By: zapplayer12
Played: 138  Reviewed: 40  Exp: 18.2 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Sycamore Hills has a quality collection of open/woods holes. On the technical wooded holes, the fairways are generally quite narrow but thankfully are shorter in length so errant shot recovery is manageable (for example: #4, 12, 13 & 16 are all < 200ft. with only one woods hole - #2 - being over 300ft.) . The more open holes are generally longer (= or > 300ft with none more that 445ft.) but not excessive as to frustrate newer players or too easy for the more experienced player.

The course compels shot variety & has a decent balance of right/left/straight holes. Elevation was incorporated as much as it could be when available. In addition, pin placement consideration was noticeable with some on steep slopes, near water, tree jailed, etc. There is water in play on three holes as well (1, 2 & 9).

My favorite hole was #9 (despite it bordering Rt. 725) - a 420ft, lightly wooded, slightly downhill hole which meets a narrow strip of woods at the end, then introduces a modest ravine divided by a small creek. On the other side is the basket, uphill & placed on very fast, sloping green. A very enjoyable par 3 compound hole.

The most challenging hole is #2 - immediately off the tee is a throw over the creek through thick, technical woods, reverse S curving to a basket elevated on an extremely steep incline. It plays longer than 322ft and is one tough par 3 as roll away putt potential is probable.

The always preferred concrete tee pads were in good shape & the tee signs were sufficient as far as distance and hole layout. There were buckets on some tee signs for trash which, while a little odd and esthetically detracting, accomplished the objective.

Conveniently located off I-75 south of Dayton, it's definitely an easy drive-by play.
Cons: A map is essential for a first time player here. Navigation is sort of a mess and the 'layout by committee' design leaves much to be desired as far as flow is concerned - making the course feel disjointed and fragmented. Add in some long walks between fairways (passing other tees that are closer/seem like the next logical tee) as well as across fairways and these design flaws stick out like a sore thumb - significantly lowering the 'fun factor'.

There were some missing tee signs (vandalism?) but hole #1 having no sign whatsoever was a glaring omission . At the very least, spray paint the tee # on the concrete tee pad.

I liked the idea of 18's downhill bomb to end things but having it be blind is a safety issue.

Tee signs without par was noticeable however I just assumed all were a par 3.
Other Thoughts: This course undoubtedly has its fair share of challenging and enjoyable holes but suffers from some design/flow issues. It honestly feels like a 'tweener' in several ways....newer players may find it somewhat difficult (tight fairways/some longer holes) while the more experienced may find it lacking in some aspects (no real 'wow' factor and a lack of true pro-style holes magnifies the repetitive feel). It also doesn't feel quite mature (quirky layout/inconsistencies/underdeveloped holes) but at times flirts with perfection (holes 1-4 being a really stand-out sequence). It's as if the course hasn't yet found its identity and its potential not quite realized.

I have such ambivalence towards Sycamore Hills that I find it tough to recommend but can't not recommend it (if that contradiction and double negative makes any sense). While it's somewhere between a 3-3.5, this is one of those time where I feel a rounding down is necessary. Hopefully the next time I'm in the area, my schedule will allow another play in anticipation of growth, improvement & development.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Definition of Homey

5+    10/24/2011   11/1/2011
Review By: DrewMillerRH
Played: 108  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 7.3 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Many unique and challenging tee shots, good use of elevation, gorgeous scenary in fall and spring, well, as far as Ohio is concerned.....
Cons: The course is fun, but the trickery of some of the "fairways" are akin more to putt putt than golf. A share of illogical fairways, many are reachable in one shot but blind, the flow of the course is confusing as well ( bring a map). More of a what not to do than do from a golf course design perspective.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Very Challanging, Very Fun

2-4    8/8/2011   8/10/2011
Review By: flyersfan331
Played: 5  Reviewed: 2
0 Helpful / 10 Not
Pros: Great course for pros if you just want to get some practice before a tournement. It's not tournement worthy but very hard. This course is my favorite.
Cons: Great course for cons too beacause it's very hilly and has some long holes. This course is my favorite.

0 of 10 people found this review helpful.


2-4    6/16/2011   6/18/2011
Review By: crazypep
Played: 14  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 2.5 Years
This review was updated on 7/25/2012
2 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Awesome holes! Very technical shots and requires some good shot placement! Nice mix of a hike through woods and open fields. Nice practice area for putting. Not a lot of other foot traffic other than disc throwers! Hole #3 is around a blind corner of trees! #11 hole awesome tunnel shot and #17 uphill around big tree! #18 nice finish downhill!
Cons: Hard to navigate with no map if it's your first time, not all holes have signs to the next tee.
Other Thoughts: I would certainly recommend playing this one, just allow for enough time to find your disc on a few holes! The only advice I could offer is play shorter safety shots the first time you play so you don't lose any discs!

2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Mix of Shots

1    5/29/2011   6/14/2011
Review By: hooked312
Played: 34  Reviewed: 17  Exp: 8.2 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - This course will require a multitude of different shots and would be challenging for almost any level of player.
- No two holes were alike. There were a good mix of wooded holes, water hazards(1,2). and longer holes mixed throughout the course.
- Most of the tees had signs showing you where the hole was and the next tee in relation to that basket.
- A nice practice basket to warm up.
- Locals were nice in helping me find my way around the course.
Cons: - The first two holes are lacking signage. Once I got through those there were only a few other walks between holes that were tricky. (definitely take a picture of the course map before playing).
- #4 had a large downed tree that made navigation difficult.
Other Thoughts: - 1 and 2 are tight wooded holes
- 3 opens up into a field, but then 4 is right back in the woods for a nice challenge.
- Although 5 and 6 are out in the field they have a nice little challenge to them.
- 7 you have to hit a 10 yard opening to come back to the basket. 8 feels a little out of place.
- 9 requires a good tee shot and then back across the creek. 10 is a nice open anyhyzer shot.
- 11 is a cool tunnel hole. 12 and 13 are shorter wooded holes.
- 14 is a shorter version of #7. and #15 is also somewhat of a similar set up with a straight drive then an abrupt dogleg.
- 16 is a very short ace run. 17 is an uphill pretty straight forward hole.
- And then 18 is a long bomb, over a hill, blindshot.

- I love courses that require a good hike. and this course definitely has that feel. Only a few of the holes are in wide open fields otherwise you feel as though you are playing along trails.
- This wildness also seemed to hinder some of the holes as they felt overgrown in areas.
- This course is a good stop for anybody heading through the Dayton area, it was easy to find off the highway.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

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