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A little bit of everything

2-4    3/17/2013   3/26/2013
Review By: jonesydesign
Played: 33  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 2.2 Years
1 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: -Great variety
-Tight, technical shots
-Long, bomber shots
-Well kept grounds
Cons: -Ridiculously long/hard shots are all rated par 3
-Near a lake but no water in play
-Easy to lose a disc in the brush
-Nice elevation changes
Other Thoughts: I love to hate Robert Morris. The course is well-designed with lots of variety, but it's so darn difficult to stay on par. I love a good challenge, but some of those 500-600 foot holes just feel like they should be closer to a par 4 or 5. This course will truly test you and your accuracy. It's a must for any serious disc golfer in the area or passing through.

1 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 One of My Favorites

5+    4/23/2012   4/23/2012
Review By: Clive
Played: 22  Reviewed: 3  Exp: 14.1 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Fantastic variety of holes.
- Elevation changes throughout.
- High level of challenge that will test the skills of nearly everyone.
- Occasionally they will move the pins or utilize additional tee pads to create variety from year to year.
- Excellent plot of land that is well-maintained.
- Clear distinction between front and back nines; can play either or both and this also helps facilitate a good flow of players through the course.
- No dogs. Some people consider this a con but not me. I personally like to keep my shoes and discs devoid of canine fecal matter.
Cons: - On a really windy day, some holes on the back nine will annihilate your confidence in your skills.
- They replaced what was once a cool over-the-water-to-the-right shot on hole #9 with a lackluster downhill wooded ~180ft shot.
- Friends have mentioned discourtious staff, although I've never had an issue.
Other Thoughts: - Easily the nicest course in Kalamazoo. If you're coming through town to play Oshtemo and/or Cold Brook, do not overlook Robert Morris. If you live in Kalamazoo and you've never tried R.M., do yourself a favor and make the drive out.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Great Course, Best in Kzoo Area

1    7/18/2011   3/28/2012
Review By: Nico28
Played: 5  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 4 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is an excellent course and the best in the Kzoo Area. It is maintained greatly and is never repetitive. All holes are fun and make for a great challenge. The park it self is beautiful in the summer. I have only played this course once but would love to play it again.
Cons: NO BEER, and like said before the teenage park rangers are on a power trip.
Signs could be a little better showing more obstacles.
Some holes are blind, but I guess that is part of the fun and challenge of the park.
$5 to play.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Intermediate/Expert

1    5/28/2011   6/30/2011
Review By: notapro
Played: 414  Reviewed: 279  Exp: 11 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Course is set in a hilly and/or wooded park that is divided into two different sections. There are a lot of other things going on here, but it looks like the disc golf is well separated from everything else.
- First section of the course is heavily wooded, with a ton of skinny trees to contend with. A lot of these lines are pretty tight, a straight shot or a RHBH hyzer is crucial to avoid the jail. There are also some holes where an anny or RHFH shot is helpful, especially with some trees near the tee. Elevation changes are definitely present here, there are some longer uphills in the woods and outside, as well as some downhills with some nasty sloped greens.
- Second section is much more open, with patches of rough and larger trees to avoid. There are some much more open ones, that deal with some giant hills, rollaway greens, and well placed trees. Others have defined lines (usually hyzers) that have to go around some dense rough. Again, elevation changes are very pronounced here, with a lot of blind baskets, both up and down.
- Some very well protected baskets out here, both inside the forest and outside. The trees/foliage and slopes make some very, very touchy. Out of control drives and approaches can be severely punished.
- Good mix of hole lengths, on both sides. Some long uphills, like the 500'+ shot on #17, and the elevation on #1 makes it play much tighter and longer. Big arms will have plenty of room out in the open; but don't go too long on some holes.
- Good teepads, signage, and baskets. Navigation isn't a problem, if you keep your eyes peeled.
Cons: - A fair amount of the holes have very few obstacles, and use length to add more difficulty. These are straight up grip-n-rip holes with little thought needed. Most of the back can be easily done with a RHBH hyzer.
- Holes in the front are on the short side, even from the long tees. Multiple are under 200'. They are still tricky, but they feel a little crammed in.
- A little bit of walking to tee #9, and between some holes. Can be a tiring round from that alone.
Other Thoughts: - Overall, a well balanced course that provides a bunch of different hole types. Tight forested holes in the front, both up and down, are well complimented by open bomber holes in the back, also up and down. The loops are separate too, so you can choose a 9-holer that best suits if need be.
- Beginners would be overwhelmed by some rough spots here, and experienced players can switch between length and accuracy to score low. Still, probably a good challenge for almost everyone.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 

1    11/5/2010   11/24/2010
Review By: apdrvya
Played: 243  Reviewed: 236  Exp: 4.2 Years
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Signage--Excellent signage, accurate and gives pin placement along with major trees.
Flow--Course flow nicely through two nine-hole loops, both finishing at the parking lot.
Location--This park is GORGEOUS!! and seems to be primarily disc golf oriented. Most of the other facilities are off of the parking lot and don't come into play on the course.
Aesthetics--Parking lot is on a beautiful lake, only wished that water came into play on the course!
Teepads--All cement and nicely rasped and not slick at all.
Variety--Nice variety of HEAVILY wooded (#1, and much of the front 9) and wide open shots(especially back 9).
Pins--Discraft baskets :) with tall flags to mark the pins on the blind holes.
Cons: repetition of blind throws on back 9-- just didn't like the back 9 as much as the front 9, seemed almost punishing at times.
Pay to play--though it didn't matter as it was the off season when I played
Other Thoughts: Don't let hole 1 and 2 disuade you from enjoying your round. they are definitely make or break holes, but there is a lot of goodness left in the course after these two.
Was glad to meet up with new friends and enjoy a couple rounds and will definitely be back in the future.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

 Kzoo's best!!

1    11/18/2010   11/18/2010
Review By: Terry C
Played: 48  Reviewed: 26  Exp: 17.3 Years
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Very clean and maintained course
-Great variety of holes,distances and wonderful elevation changes.
-Nice teesigns
-Nice teepads
-Trash cans on most holes
-Bathrooms on site (portopotty after the season ends)
-The road seperates 2 different 9's
-Large poles with flags mark the blind pin placements, this was super cool, Ive never seen it before and loved being able to know where the pin was even though I couldnt see it directly.
-Mix of short and technical to wide open big bombers.
-Great pin placements, roll away potential and OB potential on several holes add to the danger factor.
-Fairways are raked,trimmed and maintained to a tee.
-Beautiful natural feeling to the park.
Cons: -Pay to play in summer
-No pets
-No alchohol
-No use of water even though its available???
-The course gets very busy (but has great flow to handle it)
-Used to have practice baskets but they were removed???
-Several teepads have settled and are very un-even.
Other Thoughts: This is a very fun and wonderful park. If you are in the area it is a course you do not want to miss. The park department and the DG volunteers do a great job of maintaining this course. Recent improvements include landscaping around a few baskets, new signs and some new benches. This was one of the parks played during the 2008 disc golf worlds finals. Its the best in Kzoo and definitely worth a drive to play out at least once.

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Great Variety

2-4    11/6/2010   11/8/2010
Review By: Jukeshoe
Played: 186  Reviewed: 148  Exp: 4.9 Years
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Robert Morris, part of a nicely maintained multi-use park located in rural Michigan, offers 18 holes of outstanding variety. Utilizing flat open fields, tunnels of pines, wooded slopes, rolling hills dotted with brush, and twisting fairways, Robert Morris definitely covers all bases with the exception of water. Every hole type is well represented here: tight technical "thread the needle" wooded holes, long open "bomb 'em" opportunities, and just about every possible mix of up, down, left and right. A couple of under-200' ace runs, both hyzer and anhyzer, balanced nicely with several 400'+ holes.
-Great use of elevation. The rolling hills are used to great effect throughout. A couple of the pins on the more open holes are placed on slanted land to increase the threat of rollaways, with OB road behind the pin in one case.
- Protected pins are the norm on the more wooded holes, while low set baskets increase the challenge on a few of the open holes.
- Many unique holes. #1 and #2, wooded tunnel shots off the tee, threaten to start the round off on a bad foot. #10 is a long uphill trek that, once the crest of the hill is reached, turns hard left and finishes with the basket on a small downward slope. #18's fairway runs downhill with woods on both sides and the pin straight ahead at the bottom. One of the longer, open holes has a baseball backstop somewhat in the way of the hyzer route, but shouldn't affect most players.
- Concrete tees (nicely brushed). Short tees are natural and marked by a wooden plank set in the ground. Discriptive signage, benches, and trashcans at each tee. Restrooms, playgrounds, lake, et al. near parking lot.
Cons: - Water is not utilized, despite a concrete tee whose location suggests that the lake was once used to great effect. An epic downhill shot through woods and over the lake hole seems to have once been set up, and would have been the icing on the cake to this already quite fine course.
- Some of the concrete tees were not level, having settled significantly in one or two places.
Other Thoughts: - While there are certainly challenges throughout the entire course, the first couple of holes will often prove be the "make or break" holes of the round, as earlier reviewers noted.

9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 Great variety and recent improvements

5+    10/13/2010   10/14/2010
Review By: Pete Nice
Played: 47  Reviewed: 7  Exp: 16.2 Years
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Great vareity of holes and shots. Front 9 is mostly wodded and back 9 is mostly open field shots. -not boring by any means just more open than the front.
A beautiful park.
Nice tees.
Good signage.
Cons: ??? . . .not too many CONS. If I want to nitpick I would point out some of the baskets are quite low and #14 and #17 tees slope downward.
Other Thoughts: I love this course. If you are in the area it is a course you do not want to miss. The park department and the DG volunteers do a great job of keeping up the course. Recent improvements include landscaping around a few baskets, new signs and I think some new benches.

3 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Home Course

5+    7/22/2010   8/1/2010
Review By: m1morri1
Played: 38  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 8.3 Years
This review was updated on 8/25/2010
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Good mix of holes. Short holes, long holes, dog leg right, dog leg left, elevation changes, open fairways, wooded fairways - this place has got it all.
Cons: Some of the short wooded holes are kind of lame (i.e. holes 8 and 9).
Other Thoughts: I love to call this my home course. Of course I learned how to play at Knollwood (unfortunately) but, I got better at Roger Morris. Hard place to loose a disc, I've lost two discs the four plus years I've been coming here (one on nine, the once water hole and one in the woods on hole ten). I love the par three finishing hole of 18, sometimes it's a tough hole to par and it ends up breaking your score. No more dogs for three dollars. New signs and some new benches were recently put in!

0 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 My personal #1

1    6/20/2010   6/27/2010
Review By: Junkr
Played: 5  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 5.2 Years
6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -GREAT hole variety.
-Very nice elevation changes. #9 in particular, though I hear it used to be a benchmark challenge hole, is still an unforgettable 'pure downhill' woods hole.
-Besides one layout issue with #3, you will never be crossing over other holes. Just remember - after the first nine, you have to walk back towards the parking lot to continue the round to the back 9.
-This course demands you use every shot you possess. RHBH-exclusive throwers will have a tough time with some of these holes.
-Very clean.
-Little, if any, waiting involved.
-Awesome park. This place is worth a day trip - play a round of 18, go for a swim in the lake, have a picnic, and play another 18. (bathrooms and fountains here.)
-Very memorable holes. #18, to me, is a perfect last hole. All downhill, straight shot at the basket. Many long, open holes for your full power drives.
Cons: -Not too many I can think of. Bugs are bad here in the summer, so bring spray.
-Couple holes are a little iffy. #1 and #2 come to mind. #1 is a trudge uphill through dense trees. A lot of luck involved here. Same with #2, though not uphill. None of the players in my group made it down the fairway before hitting the trees in the way. Nearly impossible to drive to the basket on this one, even though its hardly 150 ft. long
-Some may complain about paying to get in, however if you have a car of 4 people, it evens out to be $1.25 a person. A small price to pay to play this wonderful course. It also helps keep out casuals.
-A couple holes will make searching for wayward discs a problem. Tall grass is the main issue.
Other Thoughts: This is my personal favorite course and I highly regard anyone to visit this fantastic park. The difficulty is there, but it's not overbearing enough to impact your attitude. Nice locals will return your discs and chat with you about your round if you stick around. If you are not from the Kalamazoo/Portage area, and love disc golf, make a day trip to play here and at Oshtemo; in my mind two of the better courses in the state of Michigan.

6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

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