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 Solid design, lackluster terrain/features

5+    8/11/2010   8/13/2010
Review By: superberry
Played: 168  Reviewed: 92  Exp: 16.3 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The design here, given the layout of the available land, is fairly well thought out and uses what elevation is available. Tee shots are framed nicely for the most part and offer up a specific drive, but leave other more difficult options available.
The signs are nice and large and well designed, but they don't list distance!
Hole 5 offers a nice long ripper style hole, offering you the chance to air it out and test your manhood on a 460' hole - uphill at that!
Hole 9 is probably the best - plays uphill to a pin surrounded by quite a few pines just outside 30'. There are a few larger trees which frame out the need for a good S-style drive to get up to the pin.
Cons: Despite decent design off the tees, all the greens are wide open and not risky placements at all. If some of the pins were tucked into the woods, or elevated, or placed on a slope, it would offer much more challenge.
Just one tee pad, and no material at all, so they are long eroded dirt piles. Two tees, not at different skill levels, but just two tees, would offer a chance to be like Pamperin (yeah, not much to aspire to) and play as an 18-holer at least.
There are no water hazards, but road OB comes into play.
No huge or drastic elevation changes.
No seclusion or heavily wooded play.
Basket #1 is busted up bad, leaving holes in the base were discs can drop through.
Other Thoughts: Is this what we get, or is this what we settle for? I ponder this question often because I think disc golf enthusiasts want new courses so badly, that we will take any chunk of land that is offered to us and build an average or lackluster course. Another thought is that the general disc golfer population has brought this upon us - why would a parks department or regulating agency want us to build a great course on an amazing piece of land, when these same board members see so very much litter, vandalism, and disrespect at local city courses? UWGB falls into this category. The college has a TON of amazing property that would yield a 4-5 disc course if the proper designers were involved. But what the disc golfers got was the use of some generally boring and under-used property to install a course. This leads to too many lackluster holes and just a "Typical" style course. (Perkins park will undoubtedly be another typical "GB9er"). Given that this is just a 9 holer also, with only one tee per hole, the course is below average. I don't mind the course, but it's just one of those "blah" courses. My ratings have a lot of compression at 2.5 to 3.5, but the difference between the 1 and 2 disc courses is pretty wide.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Tough 9

1    7/5/2010   7/13/2010
Review By: mashnut
Played: 815  Reviewed: 751  Exp: 12.5 Years
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays through a grassy, hilly section of a college campus with some scattered trees and a few brushy wooded areas. The brush only comes into play on one side of a few holes, but it adds a nice little bit of risk on those shots and is thick enough that you can easily lose a stroke throwing into it. There is some nice elevation here, nothing dramatic but enough to add some challenge with a couple tough uphill shots and a fun downhill ace run. There is some good length here, with a couple holes that call for a long drive, most calling for a midrange or fairway driver shot, and only one short hole. There is a decent mix of hole shapes, especially considering how open the course is.

The tee signs are nice and visible, with the hole layout so you know where to throw. The tees are at least level. There is a course map by hole 1, the course crosses the road a couple times so it's nice to take a look at the map so there's no confusion on navigation.
Cons: The course is a little too open, and too much of the difficulty comes from length for my tastes. It's too bad there wasn't a way to use the wooded area a little more to mix things up and add a little more variety. The tee signs have hole layout but not distance, always a nice thing to know standing on the tee especially on blind holes (this course has a few). The course plays very close to the road on several holes, this could be a safety issue on a busy day. The tees have spread and eroded so it's not at all clear where to throw from.
Other Thoughts: This is a tough 9 hole course that makes you work pretty hard to score well. It's great to see campus courses that expose students and the community to the course, and this one does a pretty good job of that. It's a little long for newer players, a short set of tees for beginners might be a good addition here. More experienced players will find some challenges, but not a ton of variety.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 No Prerequisite for This College Course

5+    8/18/2009   8/18/2009
Review By: jhgonzo
Played: 92  Reviewed: 46  Exp: 16.2 Years
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: 1. Good signage. The signs could be a bit more detailed, like including distances and flight paths, but they're better than others in the area.
2. Good use of elevation. A few uphill and downhill shots.
3. Strategic pins. While I think the area in whole is under-utilized, some tricky basket locations will give you a 4 easier than you think.
4. No crowds. A good place to get away from the vandals and ne'er-do-wells that frequent Baird Creek.
Cons: 1. Rutted tees. The tees used to be marked with colored bricks in the dirt, but the tees are now so worn and bricks missing (the tees have been worn to--in some areas--10 to 12 feet further ahead of the original designated tee) that there's usually no clear beginning or end of the tee. In particular, the tees at #3 (roots sticking out everywhere) and #7 (the tee is now a narrow ditch, almost forcing you to tee off from the nearby grass) present safety issues.
2. Like I stated above, the area in whole wasn't used to its full potential. Most of the course is in the wide open with fairways dotted with trees, and yet woods are everywhere out here! This could easily be an 18-hole (or at least 12) if the staff got motivated to do something to this course other than just mow the grass. Given the condition of the tees and baskets, I'm guessing mowing is ALL that's done out here these days.
3. Nothing memorable. The holes and the course are relatively bland; that is, there's nothing that really jumps out at you and makes you say, "Wow! That was an AWESOME hole! I can't wait to play it again!" You DO need skills to finish under par out here, but even if you shoot an awesome round you'll probably forget about it shortly.
Other Thoughts: This course needs a major overhaul. When you compare this to other courses on college campuses in the area (LTC in Cleveland, WI, being the closest), it leaves a lot to be desired. The course was obviously designed by someone passionate about DG, but they must've gotten the cold shoulder from UW board members when (and if) additions or improvements were ever brought up. There's SO MUCH potential out here that it's almost a shame to play this layout. If anyone from UWGB is reading this, message me and let's get something done about this course. If you build it, they will come, but if you build it and then neglect it, they will stop coming. I personally only play this course when I'm up in GB but don't have time or the patience to play Baird Creek.

4 of 4 people found this review helpful.


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