4 Helpful / 2 Not
B- = Be a little too open and a little too bland
Pros: What I personally like and how this course stacks up:
1) Holes with good risk/reward. Fair, but harsh punishment for bad decisions or execution. == C+
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities for me. I throw 300' accurately, 360' max. == B
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography == C
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion. == C
5) Bonus points for multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them. == N/A
Other Thoughts: It's all about feeding the addiction, so I ranked this course subjectively based on my own "personal addiction factor". The grades above tell how well the course will draw me back to itself again and again and again. Since I have played a decent number of courses (125 18-hole, 64 9-hole as of mid 2009), my hope is that players/explorers who have similar addiction tastes will find my ratings list helpful as they choose courses to play and explore.
Over time, I expect to fill some of my reviews in with more descriptive verbiage…if what I can add anything to what has already been written. For now, my list is more important to me than the verbiage of my reviews.
I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me….that's the fun of things here. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 6 Not
Gets the job done
Pros: This course has a good variety of shots though nothing too out of the ordinary. nice baskets.
Cons: Posted pars are good for beginners should be a par 3 course. Need to cross the creek and walk a while to get to 13-17.
1 of 7 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: I played this course, and to be honest, I was underwhelmed, but its not a BAD course. The concrete tees and baskets were in good shape. Almost all the tees have a post next to them with hole number, par, and sometimes a vague arrow or direction to the next tee written on them in sharpie.
A mostly wide open course, with some gradual elevation changes in play. This course tends toward the long side, which is not surprising if it was converted from a ball golf course. I suppose this open course would be good if you wanted to practice driving, but the strong winds make even that tough.
This course has one or two signature holes of sorts. Hole six plays with the small river on your left, and the basket sandwiched down a narrow avenue between the bushy bank and a grove of mature trees. Its probably the most technical shot on this course, but a straight throw could yield a birdie here. Most of the other holes, you have a clear, unobstructed view of the basket, maybe with a few trees along the sides of the fairway, but plenty of fudge room to throw any number of shots. Though few holes here are technical in the least, the longer distance and wind on this course make it challenging to get deuces in most places unless you rip a really good drive off. The par 4s and 5s are some of the most open holes, and don't seem significantly longer than the par 3 holes, so they are good chances for birdies if you can putt in the wind.
The 600 foot par 5 hole 12, known as "The Monster", is the exception to this, as it is longer and bit more challenging than the rest of the holes. There are actually some trees along the right, and the river along the left could be a factor if you strayed that way. The pin is up the hill to the right of those pine trees down at the end of the fairway along the river.
Also, the river is behind the downhill sloping fairway to basket 10, so I suppose an errant drive could end up there as well.
Overall, this course has some distance, and very few trees to hit, so if that's your thing, you'll like this course.
Cons: The flow on this course is jacked up, in several ways, the course is basically split between 3 clumps of terrain. Holes 1 and 2 start off by one of the parking lots, then play into a field area where holes 3-7 play. So far, so good, right? Well, now you have to walk from the far end of that field, all the way back to by hole 1 to get to holes 8-12. Then, you have to cross the river and walk back along a path to get to 13-17. Once you get there, holes 13 and 14 run parallel and in the same direction, so after 13 you have to walk back down 13's fairway, to tee 14.
After hole 17, you have to walk on the path all the way around to the road, and back, to the right side of the area where holes 13-15 are. While playing this course, I couldnt help but think that there must've been a way to lay this ocurse out that involved less walking btw holes.
This wouldn't be all that bad if there was some signage, but there's not a course map or tee signs, so its often hard to tell where the next hole is, and on some holes its hard to find the next basket. On hole 9, the practice basket is the one off to the right on the hillside, that looks like it could be the correct basket.
Most of the holes on this course are fairly boring due to being very open, and as long as you drive in the general direction of the basket, trees come into play on very few holes. The holes, especially the holes in the field by the lake, are totally open, plain jane let it rip holes.
This course, for the most part, lacks intrigue. The main challenge is wind. It seems like there was no effort to protect the baskets, as most of them are just out in wide open areas. In some cases, moving the basket 5 ft would put it at least behind one tree from the tee, and force players to somewhat shape their shots, and make many holes alot more memorable. Why they chose to keep them out in the open instead is beyond me.
Also, this course wraps around a sizable lake, which never comes into play, also a shame.
There are several areas down by the riverside which you have to walk by to get between holes (12-13) that have some trees and look like cool places for a few holes, preferable to some of the ones they currently have.
This isnt a bad course, but its just that if a course isnt really that great, then I would at least hope for it to be FTF and have good flow. Agnes Moffit in Houston is a good example. Flat as a pancake, dirt tees, mostly just scattered small trees. But it brings those trees into play, gives you a variety of holes, and has good flow, for a fun, if not outstanding or impressive experience. This course, on the other hand, has so many bland holes that they mostly blur together after about hole 4. Its an ok course, and the tees are dry and in pretty good shape, but the layout makes this near the bottom on my list of courses to go back to.
Other Thoughts: Since hole 18 doesnt really end near the parking lot where hole 1 starts, one way to cut down on your walking time is to park by the basketball courts (or were they tennis courts?) near holes 13-17, and start on hole 15, which is the tee pad with no marker post, that plays toward the river. 14 finishes in the trees just left of tee 15, so no long walk back to the car.
I would say this is a good beginner course because it requires little technique and there are few obstacles to hit, but frankly, I don't know too many beginners who can drive 300 ft. Personally, I would be more inclined to recommend beginners to play a shorter, fairly technical course where they can learn shot selection, and get some birdie opportunities to feel good about their game, instead of taking five shots to get within putting range, and the wind blowing their discs around. But that's just me.
Also, this course did not seem to be in the nicest of neighborhoods, and there was trash laying all over by the river and trees, which further affects the experience.
10 of 10 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 2 Not
Nice beginner friendly course
Pros: 1) Decent use of terrain and trees. Course works its way around the property creating some interesting shots.
They did the best they could with this site, having been converted from a Pitch and Putt Golf course. Old tees and greens are evident still.
2) Nice baskets, and nice concrete tee pads.
3) Nice basket placement on a few of the holes using the surrounding trees to create tight landing areas near the basket.
4) This course is very beginner friendly which I value a lot in rating a course. I don't mind difficult courses, but nearly all courses should be available to most disc golfers without being too difficult.
5) Doesnt look like anyone plays this course in the winter. There were no foot prints around the baskets, so this might be my go to course next winter, if Dretzka gets busy or shut down for the thaw.
Cons: 1) Tee signs have been improved but then damaged again since they were first put in. Could also use better signage directing first timers from #7 to #8, #12 to #13 and #17 to #18. Now I know where it goes, but new players will not figure it out without wandering a little.
2) Long walks between #7 basket and #8 Tee, #12 Basket and #13 Tee, #17 Basket and #18 Tee. Some extra holes could have been added in my opinion to eat up some of that distance.
3) Goofy setup for #13 and #14 backtracking.
4) Goose poop is evident even in the winter and summer so be careful.
5) Not so great of a neighborhood which doesnt affect the rating of the course but it will affect how often and when I go play there.
Other Thoughts: Nice beginner friendly course with some variety and good Basket placement. There is a 600 foot hole which is cool, as that is the longest hole I have played to date, albeit somewhat straight forward. Water shouldnt come into play on this hole but it did for me!
The goofy walks dont really take away too much from this course in my opinion because it was originally set up as a GOLF course (notice I did not say Ball Golf).
Bonus that this course is in over the winter although I hadn't come here yet because the snow was so deep there in the past.
I no longer want to play this course as there are plenty of better options around town during all seasons.
11 of 13 people found this review helpful.
8 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is an old Ball golf course that is wide open.
Good course for beginners or people looking to get some practice driving without having to worry about trees. The tees are concrete and the park is very well maintained, but in a not so 'well maintained' neighborhood.
-OPEN FOR WINTER
Cons: -Goose crap everywhere in the summer
-not enough diversity in the holes, most are just huck and putt holes without any technical side to them
-The neighborhood could be better, I've seen some odd things and people when playing this course
-The walk from hole 7 to hole 8 is a little confusing - you need to walk back towards the parking lot
Other Thoughts: This course is nothing amazing, it's good for working on drives because it is wide open. The course is open in winter so that's always a plus. Nothing really stands out to make this course great, but then again it really isn't that bad either...
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 13 Not
Pros: Good for working on distance because the holes are open and somewhat long. It is hard to loose a disc.
Cons: Many of the holes are boring holes. Not much variety. Tons of bird poop every where. Shady part of town.
1 of 14 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Very wide open..good for chucking and working on your distance..not too technical if you feel like playing a casual round of frolf..I come here sometimes if Dretska or Brown deer are crowded..
Cons: so much goose poop..at least it doesnt smell because they eat mostly grass..not very well kept..layout is a little confusing..
Other Thoughts: Easy to get lost after the first 9..follow the bridge to the other side of the park..If you got a 450ft flick in ya, youll have some fun out here!
2 of 8 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 3 Not
Come on MILWAUKEE, build MORE!!!
Pros: Very well maintained course by the city. Like previously stated it used to be a city golf course in the past so it feels like you are playing a golf course. Very VERY open. Perfect for learning on(albeit long) and PERFECT for practicing driving. Love that fact that it is nearly empty during the day except for a picnic here and there. Major PRO point is that it is IN Milwaukee. Truly the ONLY disc golf course in the city. What a shame Milwaukee.
I notice that the pics show the old gravel tees, but all are now nice cement ones.
Cons: Being very open can be a plus, and sometimes a CON. For variety it's a CON. Kind of in a shady part of town but oh well, it's the ONLY course in Milwaukee proper...did I mention that already?
Other Thoughts: This is my go to course when I just want to get out and play when in Milwaukee and don't want to drive 10 to 20 miles for the next available course. Great for beginners to just chuck discs and others to practice the basics on without worrying about losing a disc.
UPDATED 7/13/09: Pretty good maintenance as of late. Great new signs up with hole number, yardage, and next pin locations. Bumping up rating to 3.5
10 of 13 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Concrete tee pads; a few relatively challenging/interesting holes (2, 4, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, and 17); usually very few other players are usually out; a safe beginners course in that you are very unlikely to lose a disc or make frequent trips into the woods for mis-throws
Cons: Several very boring holes (most holes besides the ones I mention above are basically nothing between you and the basket, flat, and monotonous); goose droppings EVERYWHERE - avoid on a wet day!; grass is often outnumbered by weeds; somewhat unsafe neighborhood although I've had no problems; large groups often occupy areas that are very close to being in play
Other Thoughts: I've played this course about 5 times. It gets the job done, but just doesn't stack up to other courses in the area. Why have I played it 4 times since the first, you ask? It may be your best alternative on very busy days at other courses, tournies at other courses, or if you'd like to introduce someone to the game as I did this past round. I'm giving this course a 2.0 because its definition is 'average' and that's about what Dineen is.
11 of 11 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Beginner friendly. Not very challenging. Not many obstacles. Some holes are quite long (12). A fun course where you'll lower your score and hopefully pick up a few birdies.
Cons: People hitting golf balls! TONS of bird s**t everywhere. Don't wear sandals. Should probably bring a friend or two once it's later in the day.
Other Thoughts: Great place to teach someone the game. If you're looking for a challenge though, look elsewhere.
4 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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