27 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Nockamixon was designed by disc golfers for disc golfers and this is the absolute truth. I'm going to use the word variety a lot in my review because this was the predominant attribute of the course.
Although the course is mostly wooded, the holes ranged from fairways dotted or bordered by trees to straight up PA back country. Some of the wooded holes could accommodate a max distance driver while others required a more controllable disc, finesse, and skill. The more open holes included flat clearings to wide open holes where a long bomb drive could easily be accommodated. Hole 5, the 803' par 5 is an amazing hole that provides the opportunity for controlled drives, but the trees situated throughout the fairway are an ever-present danger that makes for interesting play.
Elevation changes come into play practically every other hole creating tricky approaches or letting the disc rip over long downhill fairways.
Water comes into play frequently on this course. Kudos should be given to the course designers for the clever way in which they worked this hazard into the different holes. For the most part, the water provided a great scenic backdrop, but you always know is there, lurking, waiting to grab a disc after an unintentional roll or bad bounce.
The variation in scenery is awesome. Backwoods paths, boulder fields, ponds, trickling brooks, gushing streams, wide-open vistas, to...I could go on for a while.
I really liked the basket placement at Nockamixon. Different aspects of the terrain were used to create unique putting situations. A few standouts included a tall basket atop a rock pile and a chain-mounted basket hung from a tree.
For the most part, the tee pads were clean and in great shape. The tee signs were also in pretty good shape, large, and clearly visible.
Cons: As most homeowners know, water is a necessity in life and your house's biggest enemy. Same goes for Nocky. The streams running through the course are beautiful, but the course is a bit boggy. This is likely a bigger problem in the spring and summer and after any rain storm or a big melt.
When the foliage is when it's in full bloom it is a big nightmare and disc stealer in the summer.
I was lucky enough to have a pair of local players walk me through my first time (and played a fun round), but without a map or other local disc golfers, course navigation might be a slight problem for first-timers.
Other Thoughts: It's a tough course (dare I say a monster?), but a couse I'm gald I played and will play again. Newer players might find Nockamixon difficult, hell, experienced players find Nockamixon difficult, but there is so much variety that you'd be hard-pressed not to have a good time.
For any noob that is intimidated by or has been chewed up and spit out by courses like Tyler State Park could test their chops and regain some confidence at Nockamixon. I highly recommend this course.
27 of 28 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 9 Not
not for starters
Pros: Great for semi-pro level and above average, alot of elevation changes in the right spot and many risk vs reward on almost all of the holes, t's are decent but worn
Cons: Only a handfull of the holes here are fun for staters to play the rest will leave you very very annoyed and chasing after your disk, this is not for people just starting out.
Other Thoughts: this course will have you pulling your hair out if you hit a bad wind or toss wrong during the summer months., prepare to lose disks. also do not play this if it rained recently you will not have fun at all this place is like a sponge. the fall is fun here since the grass is almost dead and easier to find disks, i expect spring to be the same as fall probably better once its dry and before the green happens
5 of 14 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Major challenge. It was made even harder by a drenching rain, complete with slick pads, slick chains, and the obligatory slippery rocks in and around the fairways. Trees, trees, and more trees, lots of water, left, right, slopes. Everything I was hoping for. great views of the lake, state park setting is awesome.
Hole 14 is one of the better holes out there with an attainable 300 foot downhill basket, but the stream makes it a sick shot. Today is was more like a raging torrent. If my disc went in, it was gone. I'd love to play this course again on a dryer day, but the inclement weather made it fun in its own way.
Cons: None that I can think of.
Other Thoughts: thanks to optidiscic for showing me the local routes on such a nasty day!
3 of 9 people found this review helpful.
26 Helpful / 1 Not
The Most Beautiful Beating in Disc Golf!
Pros: For starters, I am an opinionated reviewer due to being one of a handful of volunteers who helped build this course. That being said I will try to be as fair as possible in this review. I think I know the course inside and out like few others.
This course was conceived and built by disc golfers for disc golfers. This does not mean newcomers should not test their mettle against one of the hardest courses ever built. I say this because Nocky is just a thrill to play and don't feel bad no one conquers it.There are no filler holes. Long wooded fairways ending in technical approaches! Every hole will challenge in a way that the prior hole did not. It's long ,8911 feet, and primarily wooded with significant elevation shifts on 2/3 of the holes. The 4 "open" holes, 6,7,8 and 9, still have trees to negotiate off the tee or on approach so there is no reckless driving here. The wind coming off the lake really plays with the disc on holes 6 & 7. There are several creeks that come into play on holes 11,12,14,15,16 and ponds factor on 17. There are also massive boulder fields off the fairway on holes 16 &17. So before we start just remember that unlike other challenging courses that derive their difficulty from a handful of factors, Nockamixon can make your score blow up in countless ways. Wind, Hills, Rocks, Water, Woods, Length, and not to mention the mental aspect of playing the highest rated SSA of any Worlds Championship course ever. (67 by the top pros!) I should know my score has blown up on this course many times. The frustration of not hitting that miniscule fairway and landing in an ice age boulder field on hole 17 can soon turn to joy when your standing off balance atop a giant rock and recover with an approach for the ages. It's just that type of course, plenty of opportunity to save par or even save bogey if you will. You never just throw and approach and putt here. You think about every shot before and even afterwards as you drive home. Nocky is a permanent course in the "eternal" long position so never will you show up and the baskets are in a short position.(holes 1,13,14,and 18 have 2 long baskets each) I think of this as a pro because your gonna get that challenge everytime you show up here, unlike other courses with short pin positions. A quick rundown of the holes:
1-530 ft a flat wooded drive anhyzer off the tee and hyzer upon approach
2-414 ft slight uphill with 2 lanes on either side of a row of evergreens
3-527 ft extremely wooded fairway down to a right dogleg and then to a basket behind a low stone wall
4-246 ft short drive between 2 goal post trees to a basket behind a massive stone wall and perched atop a boulder
5-678 ft long wooded weaving fairway, many complain it's a par 4....just take your bogey, Climo 3ed here and he thought he Eagled as well only to learn it was a par 4. Welcome to Nocky champ!
6-363 ft downhill into the open with dramatic views of Lake Nockamixon all around...the wind drifting off the lake and the pin position on the side of a huge grassy hill can garner birdies as well as double bogeys
7-438 ft Biggest elevation drop on course...big throw into the air to a green surrounded by trees below, placement golf here
8-501 ft uphill journey that eventually ends at a hanging basket from a massive branch
9-730 ft downhill screamer to a grassy plateau and then downhill again to a protected basket tucked in some cedars
A walk past your car and the bathrooms and your looking at
10-821 ft of tight fairway dogleg left that ends with a basket behind a rock wall, this is a true par 5
11-485 ft tight fairway with many options to approach a basket snuggled between 2 creeks
12-252 ft options off the tee R or L uphill but beware as there is a dramatic cliff to the right with many knockdown trees
13-548 ft of can you throw straight to avoid jail left or drop off right...the basket sits atop a cliff so don't over throw your approach
14-305 ft throw R down a tight wooded fairway or L over a creek that lines the entire alternate fairway and make a run at the basket all the way down there
15-555 ft between 2 trees over a steep bank and then uphill to a basket tucked above to the right
16-399 ft downhill a power line over a creek and the baskets sits in the streambed with water beyond and surrounded by waterfalls...did I mention the boulder field that lines the left side of the fairway!
17-552 ft of can you keep it on the fairway tight unforgiving ponds to the left, boulder field to the right...downhill and eventually to a basket that is framed by a huge pond behind her
18-567 ft a nasty right dogleg that will have you negotiate trees, a rock wall and a stream bed before your finally out of the woods on an open green and putting to finish your day!
Nocky is a unique course that will challenge you in so may ways. The beauty of the place will keep you smiling as your score goes well into the 70s, 80s and above!
Cons: What makes Nocky so great is what makes it so despised. It's just so difficult. The chance to lose discs is possible if you can't keep it on the fairways. the shule is not so thick, it's just that the course is entirely woods and long so your often driving wildly off the tee with little room for error. Many novices tend to rip with reckless abandon and then its search search search. The footing can be mush or rocky if you don't land in the proper areas....this can be fun as you will often be forced to stand and drive off balance. many get upset that they can't run up and X step due to slipping or tripping. When it rains the course can be a soggy mess, especially holes 3,7 and 18. Never was meant as a beginner course and will beat down any inexperienced players without mercy. If you attempt to lay up you are usually left with an equally difficult 2nd shot...you are better off going for it which typically spells dusaster for those who have less experience.
Other Thoughts: I love this course like no other. I have played many other courses and few can compare to this place, combining beauty and difficulty. Keep in mind that the course is maintained by less than 5 people and it is a labor of love. The deer do their part as well eating all the foliage off the cedars up to the 2 meter mark! Plans are in the works to upgrade and improve the course. I would think a trip to Nocky is worthwhile for every level of golfer. Pro's will be truly challenged and novices will enjoy the chance to play a real course in an amazing setting. When conditions are wet and Nocky is not maintained it is a 4 disc rating but when it's dry and the course is maintained it is a five disc rating. The true true scenario is somewhere in between...
26 of 27 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 8 Not
Do not ''Nock'' it tell you try it
Pros: Water, water , and rapids galore, after this course you will be wanting more! This course is anything but average. It has great risk reward opportunities, no hole is like the next, great baskets. Long great course worth the trip. Holes 3, 12, 11, 8, 9, 7, 4. Just a great course. Pretty scenery, like the rapids next to basket 7. This is by far the second best course i have ever played. It is worth any drive to visit a cource with such great things coming at you on every single hole you play (except the new 1 2 3 4). I recomend any one come to this course!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cons: No tee signs. A real bummer for people with bad knees.
Other Thoughts: This course is up there with Tyler, yet it is no comparison. If you want to have a more relaxing game, skip hole 1-4, they are no fun, 14 on this course is like 27 on another.
2 of 10 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 1 Not
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Pros: New first 4 holes are great to kick off the day. The new holes have few trees on the fairway, except for #3. This course is pro caliber course when it comes to the pars on these tough holes. Great use of terrain with hills, trees and water. Outstanding view of the lake on some holes. There is a bathroom with a water fountain. Every hole on this course has it's own different play and feel. Never does it feel as if your playing the same hole twice.
Cons: Boots or old sneakers is the way to go. This course has rock gardens with rocks ranging from pumpkin size to boulders. Off of fairway is a jungle so track your disc like a hawk. Honestly this park is a disc thief so don't take your eye of your throw. On Hole #7 and #9 the grass towards the pin is not cut and very long. At Hole #10 there are carpenter bees all about the bathrooms but they aren't a problem. Hole #17 has a little pond to the left of the fairway about 250 ft down. Also, on the same hole a big pond is right behind the pin so tone the shot down. The course par is not forgiving one bit, every throw must count. If you don't bring your A-game don't even think about bringing a scorecard.
Other Thoughts: New Hole #1 is located at the bottom of the lot near old hole 6 (now 10) Hole #3 has a mean dogleg to the right about 100-120 ft out. Hole #8 has the pin hanging from a tree. (i rolled a disc because I was behind a V tree and it hit the roots and popped in for birdie...yeah I'm bragging) Great course just stay on fairway with safe shots and you will have a fine day.
10 of 11 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: The extra 4 holes are great! I always felt slightly cheated with only 14 holes. By far the toughest course I've ever played.
Cons: None. Thank you for cutting the grass. And thanks to all state workers and volunteers who maintain this course. It is AWESOME! (I still think #5 hole,old #1 is a PAR 5, but that is my only tiny gripe)
Other Thoughts: It is a love/ hate relationship. It is the course that truly challenges me. If I get single digits over PAR, I consider it a great round!
4 of 7 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Tough, but fun
Pros: challenging placement of baskets, good use of natural features such as water hazards, rocky terrain, & hillsides.
Cons: Thick patches of overgrowth as well as some deep water make losing discs easy. Tees have no map depicting hole location, must rely on map on back of scorecard. Holes are fixed, not mobile like other local parks.
Other Thoughts: All in all a good afternoon course. There are serious challenges such as steep elevation shifts, narrow fairways, & water hazards galore. As a novice I found the course challenging at points, forgiving at others. Definitely worth a trip.
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 0 Not
Believe the hype
Pros: A great use of elevation changes to make holes more difficult and take advantage of the surrounding views of this beautiful park. There are several holes where water comes into play, that make an already difficult hole that much more challenging.
There are maps available, tee signs on all holes, and each basket has a bright red flag on top of it so it is easier to be seen from a distance. This is a good thing, because the baskets are a long long way away.
No two holes play the same, look the same or challenge you the same. You won't get bored, even with four less holes than traditionally normal. This course will test your short, long finesse and power games. Be prepared to throw all your shots and bring all your discs.
There is plenty of parking available and there is a bathroom on site.
Cons: Very few cons to this course. Obviously only 14 holes, so hopefully a reconfigure of the course or added land can create 4 more holes. On the back holes, 6 - 14, the terrain is very rugged. It would be very difficult to use a cart, and 13 and 14 were kind of swampy. On 13 and 14, you need to step on the rocks to keep your shoes dry. Therefore, you need some agility, so less nimble folks may have difficultly on this part of the course.
Other Thoughts: Believe the hype on this course. It had to be one of the, if not the hardest courses, I've ever played on. Playing it blind, with only the map, doesn't give you the true sense on how long and difficult some of these holes are. There are several holes that are long. Hole #6 is appropriately named, because you'll probably score a 6 on it, and be thankful that you did, this hole is extremely long.
There are some unique features on this course. A hanging basket on #4, a beautiful waterfall on #7. Breath taking views from basket #2 and tee #3 of the nearby marina and lake.
You won't be disappointed with these 14 holes and you'll be wishing for 4 more so you can truly know what a butt whopping is like.
12 of 12 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: The layout & length of this course is truely a pro caliber course (tho only 14 holes) Long requiring accurate drives. Mostly wooded but even open holes have plenty of trees. Once close range there is enough space to work. Lots of tough elevation changes. Tons of beautiful streams & photogenic background holes. Extremely photoworthy in SUMMERTIME. In my opinion one of the most challenging/ my favorites in PA.
Cons: Tee pads & pin positions can be hard to navigate if you've never been there or don't have a course map. Needs just a few more bridges at some points too(Unless you mind crossing on jagged rocks, I dont!). Also if your a newer/recreational player may cause you never to want to play again. lol. Can also be muddy in the wrong season. Lastly this course will truly beat up your discs. Tons of rocks in & on the ground will punish even the best shots. (good for working in newer discs for sure!!
Other Thoughts: This course is an awesome top performer course, but I can't believe they need help maintaining this course (I found out talking to some locals). I don't live in the region, but I encourage all locals!! make this your home course and help maintain this beauty before it gets lost forever. Definatley worth your time!!
12 of 13 people found this review helpful.
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