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Good mix of open/wooded
Pros: Great mix of open wooded
Challanging
Nice scorecards
Big bombs/short tech. holes
left/right equality shots
Nice park
Clean/trashcans/benches
Solid Golf holes
Challanging
Nice scorecards
Big bombs/short tech. holes
left/right equality shots
Nice park
Clean/trashcans/benches
Solid Golf holes
Cons: One set of pins
One set of tees
Not for beginners
No flag markings or color on baskets can cause a problem because of older dga baskets.
People on road for #3 and other sports to be watchful of like baseball/softball/walkers.
No real wow factors.
One set of tees
Not for beginners
No flag markings or color on baskets can cause a problem because of older dga baskets.
People on road for #3 and other sports to be watchful of like baseball/softball/walkers.
No real wow factors.
Other Thoughts: Great course just needs some glitter.
Seriously I know this is a championship style course, but they need to do some things like paint the baskets/alternate pins or just not make it seem like an older style course. Not for the faint of heart for you young golfers out there with no beginner tees.
I like Zeb. it needs some love and that "WOW" factor but I think with some sparkle I'm sure this course could be one of the best in N.C.
Seriously I know this is a championship style course, but they need to do some things like paint the baskets/alternate pins or just not make it seem like an older style course. Not for the faint of heart for you young golfers out there with no beginner tees.
I like Zeb. it needs some love and that "WOW" factor but I think with some sparkle I'm sure this course could be one of the best in N.C.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Pros: A good mix of wooded and open holes. There are a few holes you gotta bomb it to hope to finish par.
Cons: The holes in the wide open field feel a little tacked on. All the other holes feel like there were Alot of time and preparation in creating them. It is just a bummer that the bomb holes didn't feel that way.
Other Thoughts: Over a pretty good course
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
Zeb
Pros: Atmosphere - Nice park feel to the course. It's open and landscaped very well. Some of the holes are very scenic, a few have a creek running through them. Never really that crowded either.
Equipment - Baskets and teepads are in good shape. There are benches and trashcans on a lot of holes, restrooms/fountain at #1.
Layout - Zeb has a good mix of hole types. Even though it's mostly lightly wooded or open it uses the trees it does have very well to create tight shots and multiple paths. It has a good mix of long and short holes as well with some long bomb opportunities.
For the most part Zeb is a gap hitting course, not that many placement shots are required. It uses the available land features very well to accomplish it. It's a marginal risk reward course, some holes have it and some don't. It will force you to be fairly accurate off the tee in a few places which is a plus for me.
The course has pretty good flow for the most part, you won't find yourself walking really far to the next tee or being lost. It's a big loop and 18 spits you back out right at the parking lot.
Equipment - Baskets and teepads are in good shape. There are benches and trashcans on a lot of holes, restrooms/fountain at #1.
Layout - Zeb has a good mix of hole types. Even though it's mostly lightly wooded or open it uses the trees it does have very well to create tight shots and multiple paths. It has a good mix of long and short holes as well with some long bomb opportunities.
For the most part Zeb is a gap hitting course, not that many placement shots are required. It uses the available land features very well to accomplish it. It's a marginal risk reward course, some holes have it and some don't. It will force you to be fairly accurate off the tee in a few places which is a plus for me.
The course has pretty good flow for the most part, you won't find yourself walking really far to the next tee or being lost. It's a big loop and 18 spits you back out right at the parking lot.
Cons: Atmosphere - In the summer you'll run in to an army of angry insects on the front 9. It can be really bad depending on where your disc lands. If it rains heavily some holes can be mucky, some bad drainage areas.
The park is also used for baseball, kids, basketball.. these people can be in your way.
Equipment - the signs are small, old and sometimes not there. they need to be updated. i do wish #3's teepad was either bigger or positioned better; for a long bomb hole you aren't given any room to run up from off the teepad.
Layout - The course is mostly flat which is something that I don't normally enjoy. It works with the course a bit though. It could mix in a couple more really technical holes that require more than just straightish gap hitting shots.
Only one set of tees... that's lame.
While I really like a lot of the holes on this course some are just so bad and positioned so poorly that it really detracts from the overall feel.
#3 is a long bomb hole that runs right up a dirt road which is sometimes heavily used. the road is also right next to the baseball field which is OB and a pain if you land over there because there's only one gate to go in and out of.
#12 - I actually like the design of this hole but again the park road comes in to play and you're throwing blind at it. Could be dangerous if people aren't aware of what's going on.
#13-16 - they're all almost completely open holes in a big field kinda crammed together. it would be better if it were just 2 out of the 4; i'd go 14 & 16. just really detracts from the feel of the course.
#18 - it's a good hole but it's swampy and can be a real muck at times. not the best finishing hole in the world.
The park is also used for baseball, kids, basketball.. these people can be in your way.
Equipment - the signs are small, old and sometimes not there. they need to be updated. i do wish #3's teepad was either bigger or positioned better; for a long bomb hole you aren't given any room to run up from off the teepad.
Layout - The course is mostly flat which is something that I don't normally enjoy. It works with the course a bit though. It could mix in a couple more really technical holes that require more than just straightish gap hitting shots.
Only one set of tees... that's lame.
While I really like a lot of the holes on this course some are just so bad and positioned so poorly that it really detracts from the overall feel.
#3 is a long bomb hole that runs right up a dirt road which is sometimes heavily used. the road is also right next to the baseball field which is OB and a pain if you land over there because there's only one gate to go in and out of.
#12 - I actually like the design of this hole but again the park road comes in to play and you're throwing blind at it. Could be dangerous if people aren't aware of what's going on.
#13-16 - they're all almost completely open holes in a big field kinda crammed together. it would be better if it were just 2 out of the 4; i'd go 14 & 16. just really detracts from the feel of the course.
#18 - it's a good hole but it's swampy and can be a real muck at times. not the best finishing hole in the world.
Other Thoughts: Zeb has it's fair share of really solid dg holes that are scenic as well. It's a fun course to play in good conditions. Let's you really rip which is a big contrast from most of the other area courses.
My favorite holes include -
#1 - One of the best opening holes in the area. Gives you two routes to go slightly downhill to where the basket is located across a creek. Gorgeous hole.
#6 - Perhaps the best looking hole on the course; runs next to the creek and has a few randomly placed trees in the fairway that keep it shaded. Basket sits next to the creek, multiple routes.
#7 - Great layout to this hole, it's got length but requires you to hit one of a couple gaps. Green is semi-protected with a grouping of trees which forces another route choice.
#9 - Bomber hole with a 50' wide fairway that turns left and drops down at the end where the basket sits next to an exposed water pipe. Fun hole to let one go.
#11 - big sweeping anny hole, probably the most technical hole on the course. it's one of the most wooded you'll see.
#14 - i like this hole, if it wasn't crammed in with the other four i'd love it. it's open and long but you're along the wood line and the hole ends up guarded by another wood line. you'll need a long but very well placed shot to deuce.
#17 - fun elevated blind hyzer shot. gives the course some variety when it desperately needs it.
I'd give this course a 4 if they did something with the holes I mentioned; but overall it's one to hit if you're in the area.
My favorite holes include -
#1 - One of the best opening holes in the area. Gives you two routes to go slightly downhill to where the basket is located across a creek. Gorgeous hole.
#6 - Perhaps the best looking hole on the course; runs next to the creek and has a few randomly placed trees in the fairway that keep it shaded. Basket sits next to the creek, multiple routes.
#7 - Great layout to this hole, it's got length but requires you to hit one of a couple gaps. Green is semi-protected with a grouping of trees which forces another route choice.
#9 - Bomber hole with a 50' wide fairway that turns left and drops down at the end where the basket sits next to an exposed water pipe. Fun hole to let one go.
#11 - big sweeping anny hole, probably the most technical hole on the course. it's one of the most wooded you'll see.
#14 - i like this hole, if it wasn't crammed in with the other four i'd love it. it's open and long but you're along the wood line and the hole ends up guarded by another wood line. you'll need a long but very well placed shot to deuce.
#17 - fun elevated blind hyzer shot. gives the course some variety when it desperately needs it.
I'd give this course a 4 if they did something with the holes I mentioned; but overall it's one to hit if you're in the area.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Pros: I prefer this course over Cedar Hills and Kentwood in the area. A nice mix of distances, RH/LH shaped, open/tight holes. This course seriously can test your accuracy off the tee and let you stretch that new driver to its potential on holes 3 and 9. Although the terrain is relatively flat, the course has been designed to take advantage of the few rolling hills on the property. Nice accurate tee signs (ones that were missing have been replaced) are at every hole along with benches at most. Something I find appealing about the course is how hard it is to lose a disc here. On the few holes where water comes into play, your discs are always retrievable. (thumbs up)!!!
Cons: During spring and summer months the park can become crowded. Peds walking along the holes crossing the fairways, or standing/playing in the creek at the basket on hole #6 (for like 10 minutes...finally I just had to tee off), vehicles barrelling down the gravel "fairway" on 3 only to park on the tee pad of hole 16 and extend over half of the fairway. Lots of poison ivy during the summer months, so keep it in the fairway. ;-)
Other Thoughts: My favorite holes are #9, 17, and 18. Most of my cons are concerning the other facilities at the park, not representative of the course itself. If you are in the area or happen to be driving through...I would highly suggest stopping by this course. You will not regret it.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Despite the neighborhood leading up to the park, the park is beautiful, clean, and somewhat quiet.
There is a very good variety of holes here, a few 600' long ripper holes (3 & 9), tight short holes (6-8), and good mix of left/right/straight. There is no real huge elevation here, but the rolling terrain is used well to play uphill, downhill, and crosshill. Most notably on the long #9 that plays downhill along a pipeline right of way.
#18 is a memorable signature hole. It is a 380' long anny (RHBH) but just slightly drawn out at first and then a harder turn in the last 75' or so. If your drive is not long enough to get around the turn, you'll be in some thick and thorny rough on the right. You start in an open tee area and then throw into the woods which are framed beautifully by a few large trees. It has a drainage creek that runs the entire length of the left side of the hole. About where you need to cut the corner and turn right, the creek makes a Y-shaped split and crosses the fairway to the right side requiring you to cross.
Slight water is in play in the form of a creek. #1 & 2 play across it, it runs the left side of #6, and as I eluded to it plays a vital role on #18.
The tees are level concrete, decently flush with the ground, and long, wide, and grippy enough.
There are benches on almost every tee I think.
Tee signs were very good with a depiction of the hole and accurate distances.
There is a very good variety of holes here, a few 600' long ripper holes (3 & 9), tight short holes (6-8), and good mix of left/right/straight. There is no real huge elevation here, but the rolling terrain is used well to play uphill, downhill, and crosshill. Most notably on the long #9 that plays downhill along a pipeline right of way.
#18 is a memorable signature hole. It is a 380' long anny (RHBH) but just slightly drawn out at first and then a harder turn in the last 75' or so. If your drive is not long enough to get around the turn, you'll be in some thick and thorny rough on the right. You start in an open tee area and then throw into the woods which are framed beautifully by a few large trees. It has a drainage creek that runs the entire length of the left side of the hole. About where you need to cut the corner and turn right, the creek makes a Y-shaped split and crosses the fairway to the right side requiring you to cross.
Slight water is in play in the form of a creek. #1 & 2 play across it, it runs the left side of #6, and as I eluded to it plays a vital role on #18.
The tees are level concrete, decently flush with the ground, and long, wide, and grippy enough.
There are benches on almost every tee I think.
Tee signs were very good with a depiction of the hole and accurate distances.
Cons: There is just one tee. I'm a believer that city parks courses should take up the expense of a short tee installed for first time players and families with smaller kids to help them enjoy and learn some love of the game.
There is just one pin location. Alternate pins here could introduce some real risky greens perched nearer the little creek, out of the wide open spaces and on the edge of some woods, and on the edges of a few ridges and mounds throughout the park.
None of the greens are real risky. They are fairly wide open within 20-30' and pins aren't perched on some of the neat physical features like mounds or ridges, or the edges of ravines. Alternate pins would help.
#13-15 are three throwaway holes, especially the wide open 13. This area really takes away from the course and the holes play too close to one another too. Pins could be tucked into the woods - like the ridge left of 13, or maybe deeper into the woods left of 14. An alternate pin on one of the mounds around the #14 green is what I'm talking about with alternate pins showcasing more of the unique terrain as well as adding some challenge. Or the entire area of 3 holes could be redesigned into 2 really challenging holes playing into and out of the woods for greater distances (not just 20-40').
#17 is also a risky OB, interference hole entirely too close to basketball and baseball areas. The ridge between 16 and 17, and the pond on left, would yield an amazing hole.
I don't think it was identified as such, but the gravel road on 3, 5, and 12 would offer more challenge if played as OB.
There is just one pin location. Alternate pins here could introduce some real risky greens perched nearer the little creek, out of the wide open spaces and on the edge of some woods, and on the edges of a few ridges and mounds throughout the park.
None of the greens are real risky. They are fairly wide open within 20-30' and pins aren't perched on some of the neat physical features like mounds or ridges, or the edges of ravines. Alternate pins would help.
#13-15 are three throwaway holes, especially the wide open 13. This area really takes away from the course and the holes play too close to one another too. Pins could be tucked into the woods - like the ridge left of 13, or maybe deeper into the woods left of 14. An alternate pin on one of the mounds around the #14 green is what I'm talking about with alternate pins showcasing more of the unique terrain as well as adding some challenge. Or the entire area of 3 holes could be redesigned into 2 really challenging holes playing into and out of the woods for greater distances (not just 20-40').
#17 is also a risky OB, interference hole entirely too close to basketball and baseball areas. The ridge between 16 and 17, and the pond on left, would yield an amazing hole.
I don't think it was identified as such, but the gravel road on 3, 5, and 12 would offer more challenge if played as OB.
Other Thoughts: Alternate pins and second set or tees (longer and shorter in some cases) would create a very well rounded design that even more showcases the park features, introduces more or less challenge, and offers a much more well rounded and varied course.
The park has good variety as I commented on, so it is not boring. You'll get wide open, tight woods, some water OB, long, and short holes that will challenge an advanced player. It just needs some spice and failed to impress me, but #18 was a real winner. A picturesque beauty of good disc golf holes with good design using the physical elements of the terrain. A few more options (tees, pins) and a bit of redesign on the last third would help immensely in my opinion.
I'd say this is a White/Blue level course. I never play as well my first time through a course, but it didn't challenge me too bad to consider it purely Blue.
Considering it's out of the way (17 miles east of eastern Raleigh highway system) I wouldn't recommend it over a plethora of others in the area, and especially considering the great courses west in Durham! It is definitely worth a play if you have the time. I didn't regret it.
After pulling into the park, you should pull immediately into the lot on your left and park near the playground. The first tee is on the right side of the lot. There is a nice playground here for kids, and lots of walking trails through the park.
(The order of favorites on my Raleigh trip is as follows - UNC, Leigh Farms, Harris Lake, Cedar Hills, Zebulon, Middle Creek, and Valley Springs. UNC and Leigh farms were runaway winners but with vastly different reasons. Harris Lake was repetitive being almost all wooded, but real fun to play and lots of risk. Cedar Hills, Zeb, and Middle creek were all tied around the average for different reasons. Valley Springs was very fun, but repetitively grueling.)
The park has good variety as I commented on, so it is not boring. You'll get wide open, tight woods, some water OB, long, and short holes that will challenge an advanced player. It just needs some spice and failed to impress me, but #18 was a real winner. A picturesque beauty of good disc golf holes with good design using the physical elements of the terrain. A few more options (tees, pins) and a bit of redesign on the last third would help immensely in my opinion.
I'd say this is a White/Blue level course. I never play as well my first time through a course, but it didn't challenge me too bad to consider it purely Blue.
Considering it's out of the way (17 miles east of eastern Raleigh highway system) I wouldn't recommend it over a plethora of others in the area, and especially considering the great courses west in Durham! It is definitely worth a play if you have the time. I didn't regret it.
After pulling into the park, you should pull immediately into the lot on your left and park near the playground. The first tee is on the right side of the lot. There is a nice playground here for kids, and lots of walking trails through the park.
(The order of favorites on my Raleigh trip is as follows - UNC, Leigh Farms, Harris Lake, Cedar Hills, Zebulon, Middle Creek, and Valley Springs. UNC and Leigh farms were runaway winners but with vastly different reasons. Harris Lake was repetitive being almost all wooded, but real fun to play and lots of risk. Cedar Hills, Zeb, and Middle creek were all tied around the average for different reasons. Valley Springs was very fun, but repetitively grueling.)
8 of 9 people found this review helpful.
Pros: This is a very well maintained park with some good disc golfing to be had. Some of the earlier holes play through some narrow to not so narrow woods. The back nine is mostly open with enough space to duce some lengthy holes. The variety here is nice and the long holes can test your D.
Cons: The course is well designed for the park it is in. There is almost no elevation change here and for the most part the wooded holes aren't very difficult. Also there is a stretch of holes in the back nine that have you throwing back and fourth in and out of the woods (it just feels repetitive).
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Great mix of wooded and open fairway holes in a nice city park. Where this course really excels is in it's wooded holes - some which are cleared fairways with heavy trees on the edges, and others that have speckled trees throughout the fairway to force shaped shots and more accuracy. You are challenged to stay in the fairways or you will certainly be carding bogeys on many of the forested holes.
The tee signs were really nice, and saved this first-timer a lot of walking, as the maps and distances were very dependable.
Highlights to me were holes 1 & 18 with OB streams waiting right at the 275' danger zone. Hole # 9 has a classic wide golf fairway, but punishes you (as it did me, with a double bogey) if you shank one in the woods.
The tee signs were really nice, and saved this first-timer a lot of walking, as the maps and distances were very dependable.
Highlights to me were holes 1 & 18 with OB streams waiting right at the 275' danger zone. Hole # 9 has a classic wide golf fairway, but punishes you (as it did me, with a double bogey) if you shank one in the woods.
Cons: Some dangerous parts of the course: Hole 3 goes right down a well-used gravel road (especially during baseball season) - who wants their disc run over? A couple of other issues with fairways should be noted- 12 intersects this gravel road & brushes the back of tee #4; Holes 13 & 16 edge the baseball parking lot and are a danger to cars parked there and people playing pepper on the sidelines (#16).
The field that criss-crosses 13-16 gets a bit redundant as these holes are all pretty open, straight and one after the other.
The field that criss-crosses 13-16 gets a bit redundant as these holes are all pretty open, straight and one after the other.
Other Thoughts: The designers have done such a fine job with a majority of the course - particularly the holes in the woods - if somehow they could utilize more of the woods to create some new holes to replace a few dangerous spots - this course would be top notch.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Pros: A well balanced course with lots of variety. You are able to use every shot in your bag. This is the kind of course that you can play often and never get bored with it. It reminds me a lot of playing UNC. There are heavily wooded holes, open holes, long bombs and even some use of the little elevation available. Course flows well and has very well designed holes. If you like courses with solid hole design and a variety of features this is a good course for you. Baskets are all in good shape. There is a port-a-potty in the parking lot and a practice basket next to hole #1. There is also a playground and picnic area on site.
Cons: Not all the tee pads are concrete. The dirt pads are all in decent shape, but concrete would be nice. Very limited signage. Not good information as to basket location and distances. Hole #3 plays over a gravel road that people use to get to the back softball fields. That can be a hassle when those fields are being used. My buddy's favorite disc got pancaked once. I didn't mind, but it sucked for him. Hole #18 can be real swampy and muddy. There is a small creek running through the area, and water just seems to stay there forever. Hole #9 also sits in a low area that can get fairly muddy.
Other Thoughts: This course is fun to play and, I wish it were closer to my house so I could play it more often. It is a great place to use all your shots. There is also very little risk of losing a disc here. There is some small creeks, but no real water hazards. If you are tired of throwing discs into Harris Lake at Buckhorn then this would be a good alternative for you. If you are in the Raleigh area I would recommend trying to get to Zebulon.
11 of 12 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Very challenging and well kept disc golf course. Uses a good variety of open and wooded holes, also varies in distance throughout the course (240ft -600+ft). Many holes on the front nine play around a creek and make it more challenging to keep it down certain sides of the fairway. Nice concrete tee boxes and signs on every tee of hole layout.
Every hole in woods has a very well defined fairway and I would imagine it would be very hard to lose a disc due to ivy and weeds growing in the woods.
Every hole in woods has a very well defined fairway and I would imagine it would be very hard to lose a disc due to ivy and weeds growing in the woods.
Cons: It was my first time playing and got lost on a few occasions, hole 3 is to the left of hole two back up the road. Also when you complete the hole to the left of the softball field parking lot you must walk behind the outfield fence and walk up stairs to get to the tee box. As stated before no alternate tees. Some holes extremely long, for short throwers or beginners could be too challenging to score well.
Other Thoughts: Very nice course, and a good mix up from the Chapel Hill and Raleigh courses, it was much longer and more challenging then any in the local area.
For longer throwers and people who like open courses this is ideal place to play, some holes are over 600 feet and are wide open, holes that are not this long are still quite lengthy and I would say the avg hole would be over 350 feet.
Although the creek was in play, I do not believe there were many places to actually lose your disc in them, they were majority very rocky and sandy shores and could be found easily.
For longer throwers and people who like open courses this is ideal place to play, some holes are over 600 feet and are wide open, holes that are not this long are still quite lengthy and I would say the avg hole would be over 350 feet.
Although the creek was in play, I do not believe there were many places to actually lose your disc in them, they were majority very rocky and sandy shores and could be found easily.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
Pros: Having "grown up in the woods" so to speak (when it comes to DG) Zebulon makes me feel right at home. For the most part, this is a wooded course, maybe 1/3 of the course is out in the open, with a couple holes sort of in between, using the woods either as a border, or as a starting/finishing point. The course is largely flat, but does have some minor elevation, a creek that comes into play, and a nice mix of direction (lefts and rights) that keeps it interesting. This course is interesting to me because of the scoring diversity it ellicits. I've shot anywhere from 43 to 56 during tournament rounds. It's all there to get, but its all there to getya at the same time.
Porta John is permanent on site
Nice Shelter
Multi use park includes BBall, Baseball field, tot lot - hardly any of which conflicts with the DGC.
Porta John is permanent on site
Nice Shelter
Multi use park includes BBall, Baseball field, tot lot - hardly any of which conflicts with the DGC.
Cons: Although it flows well, the circuit doesn't return to the parking area until the end. So take your supplies with you or be prepared for a long walk for supplies.
Other Thoughts: Well taken care of, and definitely fun. Challenging, but not taxing. Definitely worth a visit.
11 of 12 people found this review helpful.
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