16 Helpful / 0 Not
Alternate Pins & Tees, oh my!
Pros: When I reviewed the Winter course(before they split the winter24/summer27 into separate entries) I gave it a 4.0, based on the novelty of two different courses, expecting to just keep it the same or drop the score based on how the summer course was. Naturally, I assumed it wouldn't be any better than a 3.5, maybe a 4. The winter course alone is only a 3.5
Add to this, when I drove through the park and scoped out the Summer course during my rounds on the Winter course, I have to admit I was not impressed. The summer holes I could see (tee signs covered in snow) looked flat, open and boring.
Wrong on all counts.
This is the best course I have played in SE Wisconsin to-date, and what I've heard about the remaining courses in the area leads me to believe that the title will rest with Dretzka, with Brown Deer a close second.
The winter course, though great given the limited options for snow golf, is not in the same league as this course.
All concrete pads, in great shape, dual tees on most of original 18. Original 18 has excellent signage, with hole maps detailling locations and distances to all the alt pins, from both long and short tees.
Oodles of alt pin positions, seemed like at least three for every hole, with some as many as five!! (in which case one was crazy hard, and only for tournaments, according to the guys running the weekly league & who switch the pins out regularly).
I'm gonna pause a moment here, because this course really impressed me on this point. The alt pin placements on this course are awesome. Each one significantly changes the hole, as much as the pin placements at Anna Page East, but with more options. The baskets here are well-placed and well-protected, from all of the pin placements, with a variety of awesome challenges on the putting game, like sticking the pin directly behind a tree with 3 trunks, thru a small opening onto a wooden hilltop blind from the tee, or behind a stand of white paper birch. Many holes have a circle of trees hollowed out for several different basket placements, each with its own narrow opening off one side of the fairway to enter like a (x) shape, with the x being basket and () being treeline.
This course looks fairly flat at first glance, and the total elevation change between the lowest and highest point on the course is not nearly as much as courses like Whistler and Justin Trails, but that's where the brilliance of the course's design comes into play. Elevation is in play on almost every hole. Some baskets are blind over a rolling hill, some are tucked into a hollow, some are up or down a hill. Many holes have both up and down elevation changes on them, for added fun. Its not drastic, but whats there does matter.
Also, this course varies from wooded to scattered trees. This course features some very hair-raising long tunnel shots through the woods (holes 2,3 & 17 in particular), but trees are a factor on every hole here. The baskets, in all pin locations, are very cleverly placed to maximize protection from the individual trees.
No hole on this course seems repetitive, even after repeated plays. They all have something different, and since there are so many pin locations, you can come here every week for 2 years and never play the exact same course twice, which is like playing a few completely different holes in most cases. It all comes back to the alt pins. It seems like they just keep adding more locations, which is awesome.
This course, at least from the short tees, is a great level of challenge: most holes seem quite attainable, but you will work for it. Deuces are very doable here, but don't expect them to just come, and with the changing baskets, scope out the hole before you park the wrong location. I get the feeling that if I played here enough, I would eventually birdie many of these, but it will take time and practice. Its far easier to bogey most of them.
Even if there is a hole you don't like, it has several different basket placements, so you wont have to suffer all year.
The holes force you to think, and play a variety of shots. Risk reward is in evidence, and this course WILL make you pay for getting greedy, as many holes force you to play under a tree canopy ceiling, at least of sorts.
This course throws many things at you: wind, tunnel shots with thick woods on either side, heavily wooded mazelike holes that force careful precision, and long drives. This course has some chances to air it out, but always with some control neccesary, and usually requiring curves around/through at least one tree gap.
It also has a nice variety of lengths and shapes. On one hole you might tee off with a careful midrange shot through trees, and the next hole will need the big driver. Curves left and right, so it helps to have more weapons in your arsenal, especially since what works one week wont neccesarily work the next, as they swap out a few pins each week.
The holes here are all good, forcing you to play a variety of lines. While by no means the most technical or wooded course out there, when playing this course, after every hole I just kept being more and more impressed. I kept trying to find reasons to downgrade this course, but its hard to find something to dislike about this place. Great maintenance on top of stellar course design, and great usage of available terrain and trees. Even after 27 holes, none of them feel redundant. Many tricky, interesting holes.
On the optional loop, there are some gorgeous cherry trees in bloom if you catch it in early spring. Stunning. Wood chips laid down for many putting circles, and areas that often turn to mud. Two consecutive super-tight wooded holes on the optional loop between 11&12 that will give you the willies. (Tighter than #13 and 17 at Elver Park)
This course reminds me of the best aspects of many other courses, combined into one.
-Hole-changing alt pins of Anna Page East
-More alt pin locations and rolling hills than Deming Park
-Dual concrete tees, like Madison courses
All around, a very nice, fun, challenging course with great flow, maintenance and variety. But it all comes back to variety. This course is a kaleidoscope chameleon, and every color it turns looks good.
Cons: The new 9 still seems to be in rougher shape than the original 18, or at least not up to the same amenities standards. The holes have posts with no signs, only one tee (still concrete) at each hole, and usually only one or two pin placements per hole. This is still good, but it doesn't compare with the high standards set by the regular holes.
Also, BE CAREFUL on the two tightly wooded holes on the new nine. The fairways are covered with short little stumps that can easily trip you up or roll an ankle if you're not
watching. Tread carefully here and you'll be fine.
The grassy field that is hole 1's fairway seems to get soggy after rains, and stay that way for awhile afterwards. Otherwise, this course has fairly good drainage.
Despite this, there really isnt any prescence of water hazards on this course. Sure there's a drainage ditch that runs through a few earlier holes, and the swamp/river behind/rigth or pin 1, there are really no lakes on this course. However, you can't fault the designers for this, and the OB road can come into play on several holes, which sort of makes up for it.
This is a course full of interesting and fun holes. I can't think of any real throwaway holes on this course. Hole 19 seems nondescript, yet somehow i managed to hit a different tree off the tree every time i played it, and the rest are quite good.
This course is phenomenal because there is nothing wrong with it, and the whole thing is well-planned out and done right. However, there are no holes here that I would call truly epic, that just blew me away. Several holes were distinct, including the long tunnels of death on 2, 3 and especially 17, and the two super tightly wooded holes on the optional loop are very cool. However, this lacks the jaw-dropping holes of someplace like Justin Trails.
I'm nit-picking here. I don't like giving out such high ratings easily, but I just COULD NOT find anything to dislike about this course, and I absolutely loved playing here. I've only tried the short tees sofar, and from there its definitely no match for Brown Deer in difficulty or length (few courses are). Even from the long tees, I'm not sure it would be as hard as Brown Deer, however, this course does everything right. I look at this course, and I see a masterpiece, maybe not painted with the brightest colors or of the most beautiful scenery, but this course maximizes the potential of the land it sits on, and is a joy to play.
Other Thoughts: This course and Brown Deer, are the two must play's if you are in the Milwaukee area, though the superior maintenance and amenities on this one lead me to favor it slightly, though Brown Deer is tougher, longer and seemingly more well-known to outsiders. Rating Dretzka higher than Brown Deer was and EXTREMELY tough decision, since they are both good, but the tipping point came down to three things where Dretzka kicks Brown Deers butt:
Overall, these made for a more fun experience at Dretzka, and the fact that difficulty alone doesnt make or break a course's greatness (and Dretzka is still quite challenging)
16 of 16 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 6 Not
Dreztka - keeps me coming back
Pros: 27 Holes with alt pins and alt tees.
Great signs that usually indicate the pin position with a tac in the unique carved wood map.
Concrete tee pads that are acceptable - no cracks and none of them are too short.
The baskets are in great condition and get moved to different locations OFTEN.
Benches on most holes, but a few have been broke recently, but they are working on getting more back out there.
Great flow - the holes seem to work well together, and you can do the 'extra' nine loop across the road anytime you are close enough to cross the road. I enjoy the choice just in case there are people you want to get around or let play through.
Cons: Not too many to speak of. The lack of elevation changes really are the main thing that hurts this solid course.
Other Thoughts: This course keeps you coming back for the challenge and because the pin locations change all the time, making it a completely different course each time you play it.
If you find the am tees to be a bit too easy there are a few pro tees that will again change the course feel.
This course will slightly test your skills, you will have a diverse range of shots that you'll have to make, but nothing is exceedingly hard.
This is a great course for someone looking to take their game from mediocre and work it up to advanced. The course is forgiving enough that beginners will have fun, but still tough enough that the pros will also enjoy themselves.
4 of 10 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 8 Not
Pros: 27 holes! The extra 9 is good if first 18 is too crowded..The ultimate course for a variety of pin placements(most have 3 to a hole) and several tee pads..Never have to play the same course twice..Also has a nice golf course and driving range..Fairly short..good Deuce or Die course..Winter Course too! Snow Frolf!!
Cons: Problem with pricks stealing pins..what terrible karma..
Other Thoughts: League in warm months on tuesday nights at 6pm..Only $6..timely rejuvenation spot w/ picnic table and tree cover after hole 14..
3 of 11 people found this review helpful.
11 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -multiple pin placements
-some pro tees add extra feet/angles
-pretty decent signage w/distance
-some ripper holes
-an extra nine hole loop
Cons: -multiple tee placements can't be seen on some holes without walking the hole
-extra nine holes not marked like 18
-some baskets hard to figure out unless you walk up to them to see the number
-not a lot of elevation change, but some.
Other Thoughts: This is a "go to" Milwaukee park for many people, but I just don't get. To me this is an average course with some pretty good signage and tees.
Definitely one of Milwaukee's longer courses where you can test your arm. Variety is ok. Quite a few tree tunnel shots which to me gets old fast.
Dretzka is a decent park, and like I said, some swear by it, but I just don't get it. If in the area I would much rather play Sussex or Parkside...BUT one should try this course, you may like it.
Dretzka during the winter creates a completely different layout for their baskets on terrain used by the regular golf course. This allows some great elevation change shots, including one down a small old ski hill. I actually prefer the winter layout to the regular summer layout. The winter course is extremely well maintained with rubber tee pads, signs, and paths usually already created in the snow. By far the best place to play in the winter in the Milwaukee area.
Ok...I finally get it and feel my previous review(still intact was wrong) Actually have had a blast playing this course of late. Def one for advanced players if playing from the pro tees. Technical/multiple pin placements. An extra nine holes across the road. Slight elevation changes here and there. I am bumping up my original 3.5 to a 4.0. A fun fun park to play and challenge you. Variety is pretty good, especially with the many multiple pin placements. Seems like the mecca of the local Milwaukee area players. It has for me as of late.
6/8/09 I love playing the pro tees here with other big arm throwers. There is a HIDDEN pro tee for 18 that none of us noticed and have never seen anyone throw from. it is out of the tree tunnel on 18 and to the right another 200 feet on a hill. It is basically all by itself and hidden back by the entrance to 17. It makes 18 into a 450+ monster throw.
11 of 13 people found this review helpful.
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Awesome having two sets of concrete tees on each hole, it adds a lot to the course. Gorgeous scenery, lots of pretty trees (especially at this time of the year). Really great mix of wooded and open, though it leans a bit more toward open. Lots of great trees as obstacles. A really massive course - it takes long enough to play the 18, but going the full 27 is a true endeavor. Alternate basket locations adds a lot of variety.
Cons: The course was really, REALLY crowded when we went to play there. I understand that, as the course is very popular. The tee markers take a little bit to get used to, and sometimes, it may be a bit hard to tell where the basket is given the multiple basket locations. The course can also get hard to follow at times, but it isn't that bad.
Other Thoughts: By the time we had played this course, we already played at Grafton and Brown Deer, so we were a bit exhausted. Still, this course was a real blast and would be enough to play on its own in a given day. The course was definitely tough - maybe not as tough as Brown Deer, but definitely comparable. Dretzka is an awesome course, and I definitely recommend it!
12 of 13 people found this review helpful.
10 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: There are 2 - 4 different teepads per hole, giving all sorts of variety and challenge that vary per outing. There's a wonderful mix of wooded and open holes to keep the play fast, fun, and very interesting. The fact that there's an adjoining 9 holer (across the road from hole 10, I think...) adds even more variety and challenge to playing this park. Thankfully, there were NO water hazards.
Cons: I'm from Sycamore, in north central IL, and was up in Milwaukee for a bachelor party when I played this course for the first time ever. My bro-in-law and I were confused and didn't know where the first hole was, so we asked a buncha guys who were teeing off on 16. They told us where to go and also told us that some asshole stole the pin from hole 6. Apparently, this wasn't the first time this had happened, either, but suffice to say, one rotten apple ruins it for the rest of us.
I wish the 9 holer was marked; no distances or hole numbers are given. One can argue this a few different ways, but I'd like to at least know the distance to the pin (if I remember correctly there's one teepad per hole on the 9 holer). Maybe I'm just a nerd...
Other Thoughts: This is a fun park to play! If it wasn't 2 hours+ away, I'd be there each Saturday! If you're in SE WI then you must make it a point to play Dretzka a few times over.
10 of 11 people found this review helpful.
13 Helpful / 2 Not
A course that morphs
Pros: Pros that apply to all 27 holes: the course will force you to use shots you're not comfortable with in order to score well; most holes require thought and innovation off the tee; benches; concrete tee pads; easy to follow; creative hole design that makes good use of the available terrain; heavy use has naturally cleared out the ground in the trees to make finding your disc easy; some tee shots have multiple paths to the pin with choice that is clearly best; well maintained; practice basket available; parking is available in multiple areas - this allows you to start at a variety of holes if the 1st has a large group; nice park setting
Pros that only apply to the original 18 holes: with dual tees and several pin placements (up to 4 per hole), you will have a different experience every time you visit; the pin placements on some holes are so varied that the choice of tee shot may completely change depending on the basket location; nice signs at each tee that show obstacles, pin placements, and distances depending on tee+basket combination (up to 4*2 = 8 per hole)
Cons: Cons that count against the score: no long holes except maybe the 16th from the pro tees; the level of difficulty is adequate but not substantial enough to rate this course at the level of perfection; there is no indication at the tee as to which basket location is used on a given day, forcing you to sometimes run ahead and look; the 'new' 9 holes, while good, are not at the same level as the original 18 - generally quite short, no variation in tees or baskets, no signs, and sometimes not as well thought out; you can't play 9 holes on the original course and end up back at your car
Cons that don't count against the score: busier than most courses; for some reason, the course often attracts very large groups that play together - regularly 8 or more people will be in one group and don't have great etiquette; finding the start of the new 9 holes is nearly impossible without some assistance, as it's not marked
Other Thoughts: Dretzka is a ton of fun. The level of joy that this course can provide is close to perfection - unless you go very often, you will have a new experience most times you visit. I've been there about 5 times this year and I believe the pins have moved each time.
An example of the variety this course can offer is the 6th hole. This hole has you teeing off to gap in the brush about 40 feet wide that is about 100 feet out. From there, the hole goes down a small hill and opens up a bit more until you're about 250 feet away from the tee. From there are doglegs to both the left and the right. The pin placements vary from the base of the hill, 50 feet behind the base of the hill, dogleg back right, and dogleg back right. The hole is not completely symmetrical so each pin placement really makes for an entirely different experience.
Like other courses I've reviewed as excellent, the cons of Dretzka are not terribly significant but disallow me from rating this course as perfect. This course is really close to being a 4.5/5 in my book, but the difficulty level just isn't close enough to perfection. If Brown Deer had the variety of Dretzka or Dretzka had the difficulty of Brown Deer, Milwaukee would have a 4.5/5 course.
Dretzka joins Brown Deer as a 'must' in the Milwaukee area. These two courses alone warrant a trip out to Milwaukee.
13 of 15 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Lots of variety. Long holes, short holes, woods, hills, etc. No tall grass or thick woods. You can find a stray shot quick. Park is used alot so the woods is trampled and open to finding discs. Cement driving pads for different levels of skill, amatuer or pro distances.
Cons: Alot of people use the course so you could be rushed or stuck behind a slow group.
Other Thoughts: Great location and fun to play.
4 of 10 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 5 Not
27 Holes of Goodness!
Pros: Two parks: one 18 holes, one 9, and are easily both integrated into eachother for 27 holes of pure bliss. A very scenic course, well maintained, with a nice mixture of shots.
Cons: No cons whatsoever. This is my favorite park because of its versatility and visual appeal.
Other Thoughts: If you are looking to integrate both courses into the same game, which I reccomend, simply cross the road after hole 11, play the 9 holes there which will lead you back accross the street where you'll find hole 12. A very smooth transition.
9 of 14 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 8 Not
Pros: good mix of wooded and open long & short.. Some long pads a fun course tougher than it looks..Ha!
Cons: did see any water at course, may have over looked
Other Thoughts: Visit this park two nice courses, lots of good golf!
3 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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