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1    9/24/2008   9/24/2010
Review By: andrewkh
Played: 54  Reviewed: 28  Exp: 7.2 Years
3 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: -huge open park
-well maintained
-very nice tees/signs/baskets
-big arm holes don't even begin to describe
-lots of rolling hills
-mix of wooded and open holes
-professional grade course
Cons: -mostly open
-can be very windy
-next to a busy highway, can be loud
-kind of confusing the first time you play
Other Thoughts: i found this course by accident, i was driving along and looked over and there it was....i had to stop. this place is a monster, only the biggest arms can truly appreciate this course. i'm surprised this course isn't rated a lot higher

3 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Either wide open or tightly wooded

5+    9/16/2010   9/17/2010
Review By: weeman
Played: 223  Reviewed: 59  Exp: 10.4 Years
This review was updated on 4/3/2011
10 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: The course sits in the middle of a large multi-use park with walking trails, baseball fields and an indoor gymnasium though none of these features really coming into play with the course. There are large grippy tee pads and good baskets that are in good condition. The open holes are exactly that, open. Only about three holes have any trees on them so there's no worries of getting stuck in the trees or hitting them. The basket on number 9 is on an elevated pedestal to make for an interesting putting situation. The wooded holes provide some well defined lines to the basket with the omnipresent risk of getting kicked into the creek if you have an errant shot.
Cons: The open holes don't have much going for them other than wide open expanses with plenty of distance. The only way to go OB is to shank one 60 feet off the fairway. These holes have very little elevation change and are quite repetitive in that you throw 350ft plus on mostly flat ground with no obstacles. The wooded holes provide more of a challenge but the course upkeep by the local club and parks department is minimal and the grass/weeds is usually very long unless there's an approaching tournament. Any errant shots are very difficult to find in these growths. The location of the course and the wooded holes on the front nine in particular are situated in a floodplain for the adjacent creek so its not uncommon for lots of silt/mud, large logs, and debris to be all over these holes and tee pads. At other times, especially during the Spring these holes are completely flooded and unplayable.
Other Thoughts: This is arguably the least played and least popular course in Bowling Green. For all the times I've played here, I've never run across any other golfers out there except for right before the BG Ams. The course could potentially be a championship caliber course but it will take several years of work on various aspects of the course (trees/obstacles on the open holes, better maintenance on the wooded holes) for this to occur. There's only a couple holes (5, 12, 15, and 18) that really entice me to play here but its not enough to keep me coming back regularly. My two cents would be to skip this course unless you're dead set on playing it and go play almost any other course in the Bowling Green area.

10 of 13 people found this review helpful.

 Mixed feelings

1    5/10/2009   7/26/2010
Review By: mashnut
Played: 815  Reviewed: 754  Exp: 12.5 Years
6 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: The course plays through a large park with some heavily wooded areas and some open rolling fields. Half of the holes play through dense woods with thick rough and tough punishment for errant shots, and a nice variety of lines to hit. The open holes rely on distance and o.b. stakes for difficulty, but offer a range of lengths from reachable to a 900'+ bomber, with some minor elevation and a raised basket on this part of the course. There are nice large concrete tees that make good surfaces to throw from. The baskets are in great shape and catch well.
Cons: The wooded holes don't feel finished, with lots of brush and branches on the fairways, and some more clearing needed. The open holes get a bit boring, even with the contrived o.b. lines they're still just open holes with only a few small trees (they'll be a nice obstacle in a decade or so, but not yet). The signage was inconsistent throughout the course, with a few tough spots in terms of navigation and some missing tee signs. There were some random people wandering around the course that didn't seem to know what we were doing, a little surprising in an area like B.G. where the sport is so popular.
Other Thoughts: The course has potential, with some nice distance and difficulty that will challenge most players. There are a few too many of the open holes, and the course doesn't feel quite finished, but it still has enough interesting holes to make it worth a stop if you're in the area. Beginners will likely be frustrated by the tight lines in the woods and the distance in the open. More experienced players will find some nice challenges here, and some variety in shot shapes required on the wooded holes.

6 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Nothing special

1    3/27/2010   4/12/2010
Review By: indydiscgolfer
Played: 76  Reviewed: 5  Exp: 35.4 Years
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Good variety. Many of the woods holes were very scenic, challenging, and fun. Several long holes to challenge the big arms.
Cons: Looking out over the open area of the course you see a large sloping, open expanse with a lot of white stakes everywhere. Most of the open holes felt the same and seem to be forced into this area (not crowded, but forced in the sense that they had to utilize the stakes and OB's to create fairways and separate the holes). Not much excitement except for the risk of going OB. Perhaps when the small saplings get bigger the fairways will be better defined and shots will have to be shaped more precisely.
Other Thoughts: This still appears to be a young course and also seemed to have recently been flodded, with large logs and debris scattered through the course by high water. This course could have championship potential some day but for now it is nothing special.

3 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 still a work in progress

2-4    4/10/2010   4/12/2010
Review By: gdub58
Played: 103  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 6 Years
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Decent mix of open and wooded holes.
- In a nice park with good facilities (when they're open) and plenty of parking.
- Good tees and baskets.
- Some really well-designed holes that will challenge all golfers regardless of skill level, including three holes 700' or more.
- Can add to your challenge by playing the available OB (white stakes).
Cons: - The wooded holes are still really rough, with too much long grass, partially downed trees, and little/no signage.
- The long, open holes can be miserable in the wind (which is quite common).
- Non-golfer traffic is fairly common and can be a bother.
- Being so close to a large stream produces a lot of bugs, so between that and the wind this course is probably quite unpleasant some days. According to locals, this course is under water after a heavy rain.
Other Thoughts: A difficult piece of land to design a really good course, in that it is at the bottom of a valley and consists of a huge expanse of flat land with some heavy woods between the open land and a large stream.

So, about half of the holes are wide open bombs, and the other half are in heavy woods that have not been been properly cleared. Also, there is a cross-country course winding through the open holes with white stakes defining the running lanes. These white stakes serve as OB lines for some of the open holes.

In some ways, it feels like they ran out of resources before finishing the course. Some of the wooded holes need more clearing and some don't have signs on the tees so you will need a map to properly navigate this course.

I played this as part of the BG Ams and if I were to come back to this area to play this course would not be high on my list even though it had a few really good holes.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Underrated Course

2-4    4/10/2008   1/16/2010
Review By: ChrisWoj
Played: 108  Reviewed: 27  Exp: 9.5 Years
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is a truly pro caliber course. It is also clearly a young course. I feel that in a few years, surely by the middle of the decade, people will begin to see what H.B. Clark saw in this design when he designed it. There is a nice mix with 9 open holes and 9 wooded holes. Almost every open hole has trees planted that will make the hole an interesting play in the future. The holes aren't too clumped, with holes 7-11 being the worst clump of open holes.

Hole 2 is a great example of a hole with potential: with a row of baby pines and risky OB to the sides you can see where it will challenge big arms one day. The choice of whether or not to lay up well short of them to get a clear second shot, or to attempt to throw over/through them will be very risky.

The wooded holes are pretty solid as well. They are very technical, with only a few luck shots. A couple of the more difficult ones have "big" routes out left for the giant anhyzer. I use big in quotes, though, because they aren't massive routes, but you need to be able to hit a high sweeping anhyzer with a mid or putter to pull it off.

Well designed with a lot of variety and potential for the future.
Cons: As has been mentioned: flood plain. On top of that hole 3 is in a frustrating location. It isn't meant as a water hole, but early in the spring you're going to be dealing with some massive casual water. Hole 3, along with hole 15, is also a luck shot (15 more specifically once you hit the green - you throw a good drive and then pray you finish clean). On top of this - another present-day con is that it is raw. With so many young trees on the open holes, those holes aren't great yet. That's a problem in the now.
Other Thoughts: You have to have patience with a course like this. One day, half a decade down the road, you're going to have to rethink what you know about this course though. I give it a 3.5 despite the fact that right now it plays like a 3.0 or even lower for most lower-division players - no offense to Am2s and 3s, but this course is clearly designed for advanced or better golfers. I don't see that ever changing - Phil Moore Park is clearly for guys that can hit tough lines and have to make decisions that are 450' down the fairway.

7 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Needs work

2-4    4/4/2008   2/4/2009
Review By: Virtual PBandJ
Played: 70  Reviewed: 12  Exp: 26.3 Years
This review was updated on 2/11/2009
0 Helpful / 6 Not
Pros: Good mix of different types of holes, nice pads, nice park
Cons: The wooded holes are fluky, the open holes are bland. What's the deal with the hole with the big tree in front of the pad and no fairway?
Other Thoughts: I only played this for the 08 bowling green am, the course was brand new and didn't need to be included in the event.

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0 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 

1    9/13/2008   12/25/2008
Review By: tamahawk
Played: 50  Reviewed: 50  Exp: 8 Years
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Phil Moore is the newest addition to Bowling Green Disc Golf. The course is less than a year old, so the large, concrete tee pads, signs, and baskets (DGA) are all in great shape. The biggest asset of the Phil Moore Disc Golf Course is the potential that it has.

I like the idea of the layout, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done in order to help this course reach its' potential. The course layout takes you in and out of open areas and moderate to heavily wooded areas that border a small river running along the edge of the park. I like this feature of the course, you aren't throwing all open or all technical holes, but a mix of both as you navigate through the course. The course is comprised of two complete loops, each returning close to the parking area. There are no crossing fairways, and some fairways are defined while others lack definition. The tee for No7 is near a field used for other activities, I actually had some people walking directly through the fairway here, so be aware of others as you play through this area. A unique feature of the course is the basket on nine that has been raised a couple of feet with a man-made structure, which adds a little challenge and visual appeal to this otherwise wide open par3.


There is a good variety of hole length, ranging from around 200ft up to 911ft. Several holes on the front nine over 700ft, but unfortunately, these are basically long, wide open holes, not a lot to them. The technical holes are designed to offer a variety of shots, including hyzers and anhyzers, but need some foliage maintenance and better definition to the fairways. Restrooms are available near the baseball fields, but I am not sure if they are open all the time, I'm guessing just during the ball games. There is plenty of parking for the course, and it is not typically crowded.
Cons: Unfortunately, Phil Moore is a long way from its potential. The open holes are pretty much that, wide open with little to no obstacles. Some of the holes have had trees planted, but it will take several years for the trees to become an obstacle and improve the visual appeal of the course.

For the most part, the technical holes do not have defined fairways, and are infested with tall grass and trees that seem to require more luck to clear than skill. There are only slight to moderate elevation changes, no drastic up/downhill shots or side hill lies. The course pretty much offers very long, but open holes with little challenge other than the length, or shorter technical holes that need a lot of work and better definition of the fairways. The visual appeal of the course is in the making, but not there yet.

Keep a close eye on your disc through the technical holes as the tall grass, etc. can make it difficult to find. The river is close enough on a few of the holes to be an issue as well, so watch your release through these areas.
Other Thoughts: Again, I think there is potential here. As the course is developed over the next few years, I think we will see it increase in challenge, visual appeal, and popularity. If you are in this area frequently, it would be great to play now, and then play again and see how it changes and develops. If you do not make it to the BG area very often, and are limited on time, I would check out some of the other courses in the area. My top 3 in BG are Kerieakes, Lovers Lane, and Hobson Grove.

12 of 13 people found this review helpful.

 Still a long way to go!

2-4    6/23/2008   10/31/2008
Review By: jgentry
Played: 47  Reviewed: 36  Exp: 6.3 Years
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is a new course with huge teepads and nice signs. The course has some really long holes and some shorter ones. The baskets are new and extremely nice. They have planted a lot of small trees that will help this course improve in time. There are 2 holes on the back nine that are extremely nice. I really like hole #12 and #16.
Cons: I don't quite understand why this course was placed in a flood plain. If there is a large rain the course is soaking wet if not completely unplayable. There are currently several extremely long holes that are completely wide open. I don't understand the point of a 900ft hole with nothing but a pad and a basket. Then if you are not playing a long open hole you are playing a rediculously tight hole in the woods next too a river. This course goes from one extreme to the next extreme with no rhyme or reason to it. There is also still a lot of underbrush that needs to be cleared out on the wooded holes.
Other Thoughts: This was originally suposed to be Bowling Greens great pro course, but it came up very short of that goal. It will get better in time as some of the planted trees grow and the wooded holes get cleared out more. But it will always be doomed by flooding. It will take at least 10 years of improvements for this to be the good course it was supposed to be (that is if the river doesn't overflow and complete destroy it ever 4 years). If you want to play a great long open pro still course go south 20 minutes and play Frankln.

9 of 10 people found this review helpful.

 A work in progress

1    9/1/2008   9/3/2008
Review By: buzzinb
Played: 19  Reviewed: 18  Exp: 6.6 Years
10 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Mostly bland course but there a several tight, wooded holes that will hurt you more than the 800-900 footers! The best thing about this course is that you will have it to yourself if you try it. There is the chance to really air it out if you like to let 'er rip from time to time. I played it 3 days in a row over Labor day weekend and did not see another DG'er. Kinda nice when you are used to waiting behind large groups at other nearby courses.
Cons: Like a previous poster mentioned, "Haven't we done this already?" Very similar feel to most of the holes...they are either long and featureless or noxiously wooded with little to denote a fairway. This course will eat your discs for lunch if you miss by even just a little when near the river.
Other Thoughts: This is a relatively new course that still needs some time to mature. I really think that the designers did the best that they could given the floodplain area that they had to work with. Some vegetation abatement on the wooded holes would help its appeal tremendously. It is a welcome option when you just want to get away from the crowds and give it a good heave.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful.


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