Spartanburg, SC 
Edwin M. Griffin Preserve Share
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 Unrealized potential

1    6/26/2010   6/30/2010
Review By: tick
Played: 187  Reviewed: 16  Exp: 15.7 Years
16 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The preserve property is beautiful and has great potential. Intersecting streams and a
river all provide great potential hazards. There is a variety of open field, opens woods,
and dense woods, as well as some elevation change. There appears to be more wooded area which could potentially be used for several more holes on both sides of the river.
The course is easy to find and access with a good parking area. There is enough room for a
really good 9 hole course. The conservancy is doing pioneering work on invasive plant control by mowing kudzu and skid steer removal of privet. Map box mounted next to #1 tee. As
a final positive, there has not been a great deal of development that would be difficult to undo.
Cons: No facilities, just a parking lot. Minimal sign-age. The potential as a disc golf venue
is largely unrealized. The holes are mostly ridiculously too short for serious disc golf,
even for Super Class. It might work with a vintage class frisbee. The "Rustic" designation
apparently means there is no intention of doing any tee development beyond marking. Rustic
also means "no ugly metal baskets". The goals on this "Rustic Frisbee Golf" course are 4x4 posts with a 10x12 wooden number plate. The rustic rule of teeing from within 15 feet of the last goal is potentially dangerous and ill conceived. There is a 6'x6'x6' bamboo mound
covered with poison ivy about 6 feet behind the #3 goal. Fairways 6 and 9 cross each other - a huge no-no. Apparently bicyclists and disc golfers use the same wooded paths without being able to see each other approaching. I refused to throw hole #13 for this reason. Walkers and runners are also on the shared paths. There are deep weeds (Kudzu) within the putting circle on most of the left side of the #9 goal for no apparent reason.
Other Thoughts: I wish I could give it a lower rating without doing 0. It does just barely deserve more than 0. The course was put in as an Eagle Scout project - my props to the scout(s) and that effort. While I was playing I met Ed Griffin himself who lives right next to tee #17. He told me he is 86 years young. The map which is available on was sketched by Ed Griffin, and it appears that he is the designer of the course. I didn't realize this when I talked to him. He explained the Spartanburg Area Conservancy's desire is to maintain a "Rustic Frisbee Course". While that clearly meant the goals will remain wooden 4x4 posts, it was not clear to me if permanent tee markers might be OK. Frankly, I greatly prefer real "ugly metal" goals, but that is not what keeps the course from being viable. Posts would be OK if the holes were a reasonable challenge. Unfortunately the only challenge is for those using rustic old fashioned frisbees. In some places any modern beveled edge driver is a safety hazard. To make this course safe, separate paths for walking and bicycling need to be established.
The design attempts to put 18 holes in a space that is just not large enough for a real 18 hole course. There is ample room for a good 9 hole course, where dual tees (and dual goal placements) could provide for both blue and red level holes. I have designed a nine hole layout using existing objects which should provide a satisfactory experience. Please feel free to play my layout. I only ask that you credit me for my design work when you do. A spotter is going to be needed for any serious discing at the preserve.

Tick's "Ed Griffin Preserve" layout:

#1 Tee at the existing #1 tee and play to the #17 goal downhill right about 350'.

#2 Tee about 15' right of the existing #3 goal straight up the middle of the two pipelines
to the existing #4 goal.

#3 Walk up the wooden pole powerline to the next nearest wooden pole and tee next to it to
the #9 goal. A spotter would be a good idea here.

#4 Tee at nearly the highest point of the property next to another wooden power pole towards the far right hand corner just before the river. Use the black area on right front leg of the metal power tower as a goal.

#5 Tee beween the other metal power tower and the river to the #11 goal, playing a gentle
right curve parallel to the river.

#6 Tee through a tree gap over the small creek which is directly past the picnic tables from
the last goal to #14 goal sign. There should be a mando tree designated on the right side so
as not to throw into the next tee.

#7 Tee next to the #13 tee (or 30 feet behind it) to the #15 goal or the 4' tree stump another 40 feet beyond.

#8 Tee from the #16 goal sign to the "Turkey Run Trail" sign.

#9 Tee next to the #2 goal to the blue trash barrel next to the parking lot.

Keep having fun!

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