Not too long, but a good challenge
Pros: I do not get up to Plymouth much from Apple Valley, so since I was in the area I decided to take a peek since it was highly rated. Unfortunately the weather was not in prime condition as it was lightly raining with winds averaging at 25mph and gusting over 35mph. I will try not to let the sloppy conditions put a negative spin on the review. This course is in my opinion great for an intermediate player to really improve their placement game. A mix of very short and medium length holes, but if you miss your line you will be scrambling. If you are looking to bomb drives, you are better off going to Bassett Creek a few miles away. This is a wooded finesse course to test your accuracy.
When I first got there, I saw something I rarely see these days, a map of the entire course! Usually going to a course for the first time I have no idea where I am supposed to go. Case and point, Bassett Creek a few miles away. But here you get a very nice map and hole #1 box right next to it. Each tee has a small metal pole with the distance (if it is the long or short tee) and even a directional arrow to the basket! No real need to guess where you are throwing. Just outside of the putting circle on each hole is another metal pole that directs you to the next long or short tee. Very simple but very effective! In addition you get paths that are traced out with logs to make it even easier to find your way!
The course itself flows very well. The next tee is usually within 50-60ft of the previous basket, so even as a first timer I was able to find my way very easily.
The design of the course was great as it uses of all the space and landscape. There are elevation changes, nothing really steep, just a lot of rolling hills in the woods, making you throw uphill and down hill. There are clear paths to the basket but can be very narrow and punishing if you miss. There are some short holes, like a 141ft hole, but the basket is placed perfectly where you have to get a lucky tree kick or a perfect skip to get a decent putt. For those wanting to toss a long drive, hole 8 is your chance. A 671ft par 5 (it is a legit par 4 for sure) is very challenging as it will test your flick and dare you to throw your disc over a creek the last 250-300ft with a narrow fairway. I was proud my 2nd time through to card a 4 hitting a 35ft putt.
In addition to the flow of the course and the great use of the natural landscape, the course if very well kept. The baskets are in great shape, the tee pads are concrete, you get logs tracing the paths to the next tee with markers, and there are benches/trash cans all over! This helps with the litter as I saw almost none. A pleasant sight to be sure!
The course really tests a lot of your shots. Up the middle touch shots, accurate hyzer shots, flicks, thumbers. There are many different lines and shots to use on every hole on this course. Even being a lefty I felt the course played very neutral, as there are a couple RHBH dominate holes, a couple LHBH dominate holes and most with lines for both lefties/righties.
There are short tees and most of the longer holes, so feel free to bring newer players to the course. Due to the difficulty of the baskets, and the creek that runs through and along many holes, I do not recommend this course to introduce someone to disc golf.
Cons: With it being in the middle of fall, and the fact you are in the middle of the woods, the ground is covered in a layer of leaves. I did not lose any discs, but I did have some that took a few moments to find as they were buried, so like with all wooded courses in the fall, watch your shot and make note of landmarks in the area.
Not a course to bomb shots. Maybe fairway drivers off the tee on a few holes as there are quite a few 280-320 foot holes, so if you are a pro, mids, if you are intermediate then mids to fairway drivers.
Bring a long stick to get your discs out of the creek! I only had to do this one time my first time on hole #8 (my shot hyzered to late and fell in). Not too deep, but up to 2 feet in places. Great for challenging holes, but sticks if you lose your disc!
Other Thoughts: Even in the rain I would recommend the course. It was easy to find my way, loved the bridges all over the place, heck they have bridges to get to the other bank of the creek so if you toss your disc over you don't have to jump or back track! For me, it really tested a variety of shots and I ended up throwing different discs both times through the course. For those wanting to take their mid to short game to the next level this is a challenging 12 hole course that you cannot miss! I will have to make a trip back just to play here on a nice day.
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great 12 holes
Pros: free. concrete pads, multiple teeboxs if you are playing with beginners. signs tell you distance and where the pin is located. 12 holes wrapped in the woods with a creek running though most holes. plastic poles laying around to fish out lost discs. (i did overflip my wasp on hole one and it went MIA on the right side of the bridge so if you find a old font blue wasp pm me). good use of the elevation they had. few ace runs that require good placement because there are so many trees around to knock your disc around.
Cons: creek. kind of crowded. bring bug spray. the two long holes could be miserable for beginners. accuracy is key here.
Other Thoughts: i like this course a lot. its always a stop for me when im driving up or down 169. fun 12 hole course. keep a good eye on your disc and youll be fine. the olny improvements i could see, would be to make this a full 18. otherwise very good for what they were given. and the no litter laying around was very nice on the eyes
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not too hard
Pros: -A lot of narrow fairway shots.
-Good maximum distance drive opportunity on 8
-Has a descent mix of shots.
-Teepads are good.
- since your in the woods most of the time your partially shielded from the rain and wind
- easy to navigate
Cons: -Some holes are really easy
-good chance of getting wet on hole 8
- a lot of people there that don't know how to navigate the course.
Other Thoughts: This could be a very easy or very difficult course depending on your precision with a midrange.
0 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: Beautiful wooded course with a creek winding through. The tees are in excellent condition and have a good size to them, maybe even a little more than you would need on most of the holes.
Tee signs are fairly basic, but do the job. Plenty of shot shaping and accuracy is demanded on this course. The design of the course utilizes the elevation in the woods perfectly which also adds to the playing with your depth perception aspect of the course. Most of the holes are pretty short and can be played with just a midrange and putter. There are a couple of holes that you can kind of open up on, but accuracy is still demanded. You will need just about every shot in your bag out here as well. Super fun 12 hole course that plays fairly quick. Good warm up for some of the bigger courses in the area.
Cons: No real cons other than it could get pretty muddy after a good rain due to mostly dirt landscape in the woods.
Other Thoughts: Even though this course is only 12 holes, it is a very fun course. Could easily get two rounds in here in the same time it takes to get one in at some of the other courses.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: redoing review
Cons: redoing review
Other Thoughts: redoing review
0 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Rec Course With Enviromental Concerns!
Pros: Starting with #1 throwing the hyser shot around the corner, across the little water hazard and to a green, ARTIFICAL GRASS GREEN. This is the first I've seen on a disc golf course. And then artifical grass starting off the first 100 feet or more of the second fairway. I thought the whole course was going to covered. But I found out otherwise and saw why. This is a major high impact course with lots of traffic. There are two pads for each hole. The pads for the longs (cough, cough, longs??????) are really extra long and nice concrete pads. I've seen so many pro-calibier courses which could use these pads. The short tees are a little smaller than standard. From the shorts, this plays as a Pitch & Putt. From the longs, it's a great Intermediate course. Many tee signs were missing. #'s 5, 10 and 11 were all fun little ACE runs. # 8 is pretty much a killer hole at 600' with the creek in play on your left side all the way. It could easily blow your round up.
Cons: I squeezed in a round just before dark and the course was still filled with players. I could imagine what it would be like at primetime.
I'd be mostly concerned with enviromental issues mainly ground compaction and erosion issues. I hope the disc golf community is willing to work with government agencies. The indoor/outdoor carpet is a good start.
Other Thoughts: This is truly a nice little course. 12 good holes is better than 18 holes squeezed in. That doesn't bother me a bit. What does bother me is the fact that the Parks Department has to put up a sign specifically aimed at the disc golfers pleading with them to stop abusing drugs, alcohol and to quit littering on this course. Players, you have to take some ownership here. Pack your litter out! Don't hesitate to pick something up and carry it to the nearest can. This course is a treasure that you don't want to lose.
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Pros: This course is extremely enjoyable. Every hole has something different about it in comparison to the others. Pin placements allow for natural trees to test ones ability.
On really hot days this is a great course to play as most of the holes have a canopy from the trees.
Cons: Only one con I could imagine would be bugs at times of the season.
Water on a few holes, but wouldn't stop a discer from retrieving it with a stick or even getting in the shallow water.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Good Morning . . . now throw over a raging river for throw #1
Pros: 1) The design of this course is absolutely top notch . . . it is clear Timmy Gill knows what he is doing up in the Twin Cities because I have now played almost all of the course in the metro area and this is by far the most progressive dis golf scene I have ever seen in my cross country travels. I look forward to my effort to have this sort of impact on the SE WI scene.
2) Awesome variety on this course both in terrain as well as the obstacles.
3) Challenge is ever present even though there are duecable holes.
4) Lots of different lines needed to play well on this course.
5) Artificial turf is used on the #1 green, as well as the first 150' of the second fairway. I have only seen that in a couple places and that certainly takes away the erosion impact of the course on the environment.
6) The wooded holes are fairly clean . . . not a lot of dead wood laying around, minimal garbage on the course . . . just overall a well maintained wooded section of the course . . . at least in comparison to some I have seen.
7) Signs on most holes have Par, Hole #, Distance, and Par. Diagrams are minimal but they are present to show direction of hole basically.
8) Benches, picnic tables in a couple spots, and garbage cans are a nice tough to a course I assume gets a lot of play . . .
9) Lots of directionals on this course to move you to the next tee.
10) Infrastructure is pretty solid with decent bridges, timber stairs, astroturf, etc etc etc . . . something you rarely see on disc golf courses.
11) Wooded emphasis along with one prarietype holes (although it was unmowed), and a water shot or two . . .my type of course.
12) Dual conrete tees are always appreciated and these were in good shape.
13) Hole #8 is quite possibly the most sadistic difficult hole I have ever played. It is a double dogless with a tight gap off the tee, a stream rolling by on the left with a hardpan fairway that will shoot all shots left towards the water. I would put this hole as quite possibly one of the best holes I have played. I took a 7 with a great upshot to park it along the creek and make the putt . . . if only they could do a little beach out in the stream like at Winthrop . . . but that would lead to more erosion and environmental impact.
Cons: 1) Erosion, compaction, and other environmental impacts are pretty rough on this course.
2) Muddy after rain because there is absolutely no cover on the compacted fairways in the woods.
3) Large garbage cans will defintely keep enough garbage to keep the course clean as long as the players throw stuff away rather than on the ground.
4) Logs are used in multiple places to makr fairways or walkpaths between holes . . . I just love this minor detail of a course
5) I can tell this is one of the most played courses in the area. It is in the WE$T $IDE of town so I am sure there are a lot of disc golfing high schoolers. It would be busy most days but it was my second course on the day and I arrived by about 7:00 AM so I didnt have to deal with it, but I am sure it is an issue.
6) Dangerous in a couple spots like #7 throwing pretty near the #8 tee. Skips are always a possibility on this course because of the hard compacted soils.
Other Thoughts: This course is so close to a 4 it sickens me I cannot give it that rating. While the layout, the design, the holes, the variety, the challenge and even the fun factor are top notch . . . the maintenance and the serious environmental impacts the course is having on the creek and downstream areas has to be extreme. I know this isn't something most disc golfers will notice or pay attention too . . . or possibly even care about. I however, care about the sustainability of courses and not losing great courses because one tree hugger or environmentalist decides to raise a stink about the impact these courses have on the environment. That is why I want to be involved in disc golf course design, because I might be able to catch these things and design and install apporopriately to avoid this type of scenario. It won't always be avoidable, but measures can be taken to minimize the impact. I like what they did with the astroturf on #1 green and #2 fairway, but to really reduce the impact this course will have on the environment, astroturf should line a few hundred feet of the 700' monster #8. I won't preach any longer, but this is quite possibly one of the worst cases I have ever seen for the impact our game has on the environment.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: A good mix of long and short shots. Including a beast of an right curve on eight. It is good for people starting out to learn how to throw tight quarter shots, but not to intimidating
Cons: The area where number eight is at is very muddy and close to water the hole length of the 500 and some odd foot shot. Wood chips or some rocks wood help alot.
Other Thoughts: one of my go to courses, sometimes a little busy on the weekends
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: Really enjoy this course, nice challenge, lots of trees, in strategic spots, uses a lot of different shots, hole 8 is fun but hard.
Cons: Lots of garbage at spots, creek is nasty, smells pretty bad at times. can be very busy.
Other Thoughts: Worth playing if you are nearby, not sure it is worth a long drive to play.
0 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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